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Old 11-23-2005, 02:30 AM   #21
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> I have nothing against people who love nimals to death, like
> most "furries", but when it becomes sexual, you really need
> to expand on your dating choices...

It's just a fantasy. How many people go to bed with their loved ones, only to imagine they're with some famous person? A TV character? Your next door neighbor?

It's one thing to fantasize about being an anthropomorphic animal and sleeping with one; it's another when you actually screw an animal. Besides, not all furs are into anthro sex. Take me - I like my women human and without fur. I like 'em dark skinned, with long hair, and a bit shorter than me. Gray eyes turn me into a puddle.

Yes, there are some really weird people who take it too far, but not all of us are like that. And yes, those people need help. Don't we all at one point or another? *shrugs*<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Kitsune Sniper on 11/22/05 10:30 PM.</FONT></P>
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Old 11-23-2005, 09:43 AM   #22
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> Furry is a hobby and belief like any other. Some supporters,
> some against.

That is NOT how you justify or defend something. Anything, no matter how twisted, can be attributed to being a "belief."

For a fine example of beliefs you cannot justify, see Lowtax's "Parrot Ass Club" in his UCIC speech.
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Old 11-23-2005, 12:37 PM   #23
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> Since that ludacris topic in ROM Hack is the first time I've
> ever heard of it. So, indulge me.

I'm deleting what I said here. Trying not to be a negative person...TRYING VERY HARD.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by JadussD on 11/23/05 08:50 AM.</FONT></P>
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Old 11-23-2005, 01:34 PM   #24
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> Anything, no matter how twisted, can be attributed to being a
> "belief."

You seem to not get the fact that what you view as "twisted" is only representative of a minority of the furry fandom. I could just as soon say that you anime fags are so twisted because all you like is shota tentacle rape, but I know damn well that it's a gross generalization. You seem to lack the objectivity to see that.

> For a fine example of beliefs you cannot justify, see
> Lowtax's "Parrot Ass Club" in his UCIC speech.

Oh, suddenly it all becomes clear. You're an SA goon, with a bone to pick with furries though you can give no real justification as to why, other than "they're fucked-up dogfuckers", completely oblivious to any arguments to the contrary no matter how well-constructed. Fuck you.
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Old 11-23-2005, 01:44 PM   #25
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> Don't we all at one point or another?

Hehe, crazy, I was crazy once, locked in a rubber room, rubber room full of rats, rats, I hate rats, make me go crazy, crazy, I was crazy once....

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Old 11-23-2005, 04:45 PM   #26
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That's funny you keep bashing otakus, when, in part, you are one. How so, you ask, let me tell you. You dress up as a moogle, a fictional creature that was made by the Japanese, on a regular basis. Otaku's love everything Japanese and dress up as moogles as well. Not to mention the definition of otaku is "an obsessed fan" or "potential stalker", this info was given to me by someone who actually is Japanese. Therefore, you are an otaku/cosplayer/fan boy/furry.

The way I see it, furries are no different from otakus, adult babies, diaper lovers, cos players, Gothics, emos and Trekkies. All of you strive to be something you're not, and are only defended by your own kind.

Next you're going to say something along the lines of "fuck you", "dickhead" or "fag", because those are your only methods of defense. You claim others are immature and cannot argue like an adult, when in every argument you enter you always resort to petty name-calling and swearing right at the beginning.

As for that other guy Talyn, who such a long-winded speech as to why furries should be left alone, he too is quite condescending. The reason being because he naturally assumes that people who dislike furries have an "insatiable rage" against them. At the end of his post he states "If you actually made it down this far and aren’t currently quivering with insatiable rage, then I’ve done my part". I never had an insatiable rage against furries, I just don't like them.

I dislike furries because they are usually highly condescending, which so far I haven't met or seen one that's not, in real life or otherwise, and they hide behind a mask in order to escape from their shallow, mundane lives, rather than face their problems. Just like otakus who wish they were Japanese.

Before you say anything about it, even though my username is in fact based on a character of Japanese animation, I am not an otaku. I'll admit, at one time I was. Then I realized that if I wanted a life outside of living in my parent's house till I was 30 and sitting around all day watching anime eating pocky while dressed up as Goku and crying about how I'll only get laid in my Evangelion fan-fiction, I had better change fast. The difference between my going through an otaku phase and your current one is that I was still a kid and <u>you're a grown man</u>.

Now I will commend you for stating that all otakus like is tentacle rape, even when I was one I didn't like that crap, was merely a gross generalization. And I'll admit, I am fully aware that not all furries are in it for animal sex or go crazy and truly believe they are the animals they dress up as. I still just don't like them. Nothing you, or anyone, can say will change my opinion.

I'll admit, a good portion of this was opinion, but there is just as much fact as well. A majority of the American anime-otakus really do wish they were Japanese and go about using Japanese handles and act condescendingly to those who have no knowledge as to what happened on some anime they like. And I also know that quite a few furries are condescending, go to http://www.macrophile.com and look at yourself in the mirror to see condescending furries.

Moogle, just because you can rant like a child who doesn't get his way on the Internet, doesn't make you special. Also, "fag"means a British school student who does menial labor for upper-class men. I just thought you should no the true definition of the word you absolutely love to throw around in almost every post you've made in this topic.

Since I know you cannot resist arguing everything you can possibly argue about, because you have an abundance of additude to make up for you character's lack of substance. I know you're gullible enough to believe that everything anybody else says is true, just to get the opportunity to argue about it. Well, I'm about to do something that does not require me to send hours in front of a computer nor dress like a high-school mascot.
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Old 11-23-2005, 05:23 PM   #27
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> That's funny you keep bashing otakus, when, in part, you are
> one. How so, you ask, let me tell you. You dress up as a
> moogle, a fictional creature that was made by the Japanese,
> on a regular basis.

Nope. I don't. So much for your argument. Can you try to make one that doesn't accuse me of engaging in the less savory hobbies of furries that still portrays me to be some freak?

Oh, and to cover a few other points of yours:

1) I live on my own, pay my own bills, own a brand new car, and have a job that pays 52 thousand dollars a year. I sure seem to be doing rather well for just a sad geek who you accuse of living in his parents' basement.

2) Your post was far more condescending than anything I've ever posted. You're nothing more than a pathetic excuse for a hypocrite.

3) I'm not bashing otakus. I'm not even bashing anime. I'm making a perfectly valid parallel between fans of anthropomorphics, fans of anime, fans of Star Trek, or whatever subgroups you might find:

Anime: Animation, typically Japanese, typically involving characters that are characterized by outlandish hair, eyes larger than those found in non-anime animation, sometimes fantasy environment involving mystical powers or high technology but also sometimes takes place in the real world.
Furry: Animation, cartoons, and comics, typically involving characters that have humanoid animal traits, sometimes fantasy environment involving mystical powers or high technology but also sometimes takes place in the real world.
Star Trek: Television shows and movies, typically involving characters with outlandish "not of this world" physical characteristics, takes place in a fantasy environment involving high technology but yet has grounding in the real world.

Anime: Cosplayers
Furry: Fursuiters
Star Trek: Costumers

Anime: Hentai
Furry: Yiff
Star Trek: Slash fiction

Anime: Has its share of fat losers who want desperately to cast off their wholly mundane humanity and who live in their parents basements. Despite this, these people are not representative of all fans of the subject matter.
Furry: Has its share of fat losers who want desperately to cast off their wholly mundane humanity and who live in their parents basements. Despite this, these people are not representative of all fans of the subject matter.
Star Trek: Has its share of fat losers who want desperately to cast off their wholly mundane humanity and who live in their parents basements. Despite this, these people are not representative of all fans of the subject matter.

Anime: Shotacon
Furry: Cubs
Star Trek: Slash fiction (again)

Face the facts, man - furries are no more or less evil or twisted than Trekkies, anime fans, or any other subject material that not everyone likes (variety being the spice of life and all, and I don't particularly fancy being just another conformist drone). You accused me of being high-and-mighty and considering myself better than everyone. I am not and do not, whereas you certainly had both in abundance in your own post - perhaps you're projecting your own insecurities and problems onto me because you can't face them in your own life. You strike me as the kind of person who looks down on and fears anything that doesn't conform to the traditional white-bread American jock traditions of beer, football, action movies, cheerleaders and NASCAR. You make me feel sorry for you.

And why am I even bothering to dignify the response of a DVGC / Emuchrist kiddie like you, anyway? You people are like SomethingAwful with more whining, less creativity, more pointless arm-waving, and an aggregate level of intelligence even less than the jar of mayonnaise that SA goons take after.
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Old 11-23-2005, 06:38 PM   #28
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> And why am I even bothering to dignify the response of a
> DVGC / Emuchrist kiddie like you, anyway?

You bother to dignify their responses because you're a tool with some sort of amazingly low deep seated self-esteem issue with something to prove to a bunch of imaginary people over the internt. Aside from your ability to reitterate opposing points and point out the obvious... you're still a pussy. Save your pity for your own funeral because no one will be there to mourn you. Oh by the way, I can kick your ass. I'd be willing to prove it to if I couldn't count on you being behind your computer working underneath your *successful life* as a professional masturbator...

So it's not like anything you say matters, but ultimately you mean nothing to us... and GOD even hates you. So why don't you be a good little FAG and make like the other and shoot a random family then kill yourself... because no matter what you say it's in your nature to be a pussy...

No one will cry when you die...
You're not cool...
You're not smart...
You're not strong...
You're not attractive...
You're not successful...
and most importantly...
YOU'LL NEVER BE HAPPY... NEVER EVER NEVER EVER EVER EVER NEVER EVER EVER!!!

If you're wondering why I am being so childish it is to dumb it down to your level of maturity and understanding. Well, baby sitter Chris has to go now because real life is calling him... I can count on you to sit here and post to this indignantly while I go take a shit and whipe my ass. I'll make sure to whipe twice when thinking about you.
Need I say.... PWNED!!!!<img src=smilies/moon.gif><img src=smilies/mystery.gif><img src=smilies/flipa.gif><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Richter X on 11/23/05 02:45 PM.</FONT></P>

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Old 11-23-2005, 06:50 PM   #29
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Moogle likes little boys. Err, puppies.

Wait, no.

I think this arguing is petty, and retarded... which is why I'm enjoying reading it so much. What DOES scare me are people who take ANY fandom to the extreme level.

I like furry artwork and stories. Technically, that makes me a furry. (Yes, that includes porn.)
I like anime, manga, and sentai. Technically, that makes me an otaku. (Yes, that includes hentai.)
I like Star Trek: the Next Generation. Technically, that makes me a Trekkie. (Or Trekker, for you tightasses.)
I like Firefly, and Serenity. Technically, that makes me a Browncoat.
I like Power Rangers. Technically, that makes me really, really, fucking sad.
I like video games. Technically, that makes me a "Pixelante". (According to Jack Thompson.)
I like computers. Technically, that makes me a Nerd.
I like books. Technically, that makes me an Egghead.

What I'm getting at here, is WHO THE FUCK CARES? If you enjoy something, shut your goddamned mouth and ENJOY it. Quit defending yourself all the time for LIKING something. After fucking 9/11, it seems like we have to defend our right to ENJOY our goddamned lives.

If you take ANY one thing and focus ALL of your energy into it, then YOU NEED HELP. Life is about experiencing the abudance of... uh... experiences. If you're a Trekkie, and regularly dress up in Starfleet uniform (or Klingon Honor Guard armor), you're not hurting anything if you do it in private. But if you do it in public, you need to think long and hard about WHY you need to do such a thing to find happiness. Same thing with furries, or any other damn fandom.
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Old 11-23-2005, 07:03 PM   #30
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> Frankly, my post summed up yours much more concisely and
> four days earlier, having come from a furry who hasn't been
> in the fandom terribly long, but four years is longer than a
> lot of them.
>

Yeah, I agree that I pretty much repeated certain points already made here. It just sort of irritates me when a few people see it as nothing more than a sick perverted fetish for sexless losers who live in thier parent's basements when it truly is so much more. I can think of a lot of furries who are married with kids (and straight), the age bracket is from 18 to 60 (which I didn't learn until recently though I've been furry for many years), and the majority have tech-related jobs. We're normal when we want to be. Whats-his-name said right when he said it's mainly fantasy. My goal's more to educate than chastize. Arguments with no backing to them are just a waste of server space, is all. A hobby is a hobby. This is just another. Granted some of us take it a little too seriously, but hey, everyone's got something they like. And as I said, it's not hurting anyone, so the reason behind the senseless arguing sort of evades me...
I'm done. Thanks.

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