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Old 01-30-2006, 07:18 PM   #1
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Default ROMhacking.net Hacks Section Up

As promised on site launch, I have completed the Hacks section with a few new features not found anywhere else.

First, we have some of the most advanced searching features seen on any other ROMhacking related website to my knowledge to seach the archive to find what you need need.

Furthermore, we have taken the next step with this section putting the power in the community's hands. We now allow PUBLIC submissions that will go straight into the database(assuming staff approves it) and create the page for the entry. No more waiting for somebody else to put hacks in the database. You can do it yourself. We are eliminating staff bottlenecks on this site.

Not enough hacks in the database for you? Don't see your favorite hack there? Add them yourself. You don't have to be the hack author to add hacks!

*NOTE: We are one of the only sites to my knowledge that is also excepting bug fix patches for original ROMS.

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Old 01-30-2006, 08:43 PM   #2
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"You don't have to be the hack author to add hacks! "

I disagree.
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Old 01-30-2006, 09:19 PM   #3
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> I disagree.

I agree with your disagreeing.
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Old 01-30-2006, 09:25 PM   #4
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> > I disagree.
> I agree with your disagreeing.

I disagree with both of your disagreements.

Unless the hack author specifically says "do not redistribute", once the hack is released to the public by the author, it's implied it should be freely distributed. Just like it is with programs.

How would you like it if emulator downloads existed ONLY on sites that the emu author submitted the emu to? Or VG music players. Or hack utils. Or translation patches. Or technical docs. What makes ROM hacks so different from these that the same rule does not apply?

If we're doing things by author submission only -- mass archive sites would be impossible.
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Old 01-31-2006, 01:05 AM   #5
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my point is that if the author does not wish to have it redistributed, then somebody can't just go and submit it. And if the author doens't mention it, a request should still be sent to the author first, in my opinion.
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Old 01-31-2006, 01:34 AM   #6
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> my point is that if the author does not wish to have it
> redistributed, then somebody can't just go and submit it.

I agree. If the author does not want it distributed for whatever reason he should have the final say. This is a big 'if' though... and 99% of the time is not the case. Especially in the ROM-hacking world, where most people are more than happy to have thier work reach a wider audience.

Remember this is the internet -- and more than that... the emulation scene. This entire realm revolves around the free exchange of files and information. Once you put your emulation related stuff on the internet -- if you expect to be notified everytime a file changes hands... or if you don't expect the file to be passed around... you're a fool.

> And if the author doens't mention it, a request should still
> be sent to the author first, in my opinion.

That's crap. You wouldn't expect as much from a Hacking Utility or an Emu or anything else. Why is such a formality required for a measley ROM hack?


Do you think all these sites that have a copy of FCEU (or one of its derivitives) available for download got explicit permission from Xodnizel before they uploaded? I'm sure they didn't. To expect them to would be lame -- or do you really think all these sites should remove FCEU from their download section?

Furthermore... there are hundreds... nay... thousands of ROM hacks.. not even counting translations. Do you really expect site owners to get in contact with EVERY author for EVERY hack? That's just nonsense.
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Old 01-31-2006, 02:52 AM   #7
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> Do you really
> expect site owners to get in contact with EVERY author for
> EVERY hack? That's just nonsense.
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no, I expect the submitter to get into contact of the author of the ONE hack they are submitting. FCEU is on hundreds of sites as it is.. nobody is going to ask permission. Super funkadelic disco brothers 4 might only be found on ONE site, (the site the author submitted it to). I think that makes a difference. A simple, "is it ok if I post this on another site?" is all you need.

Now, a hack like Mario 99 or something common like that, is different, obviously nobody cares, since it's on every hack archive in history.
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Old 01-31-2006, 03:25 AM   #8
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> Now, a hack like Mario 99 or something common like that, is
> different, obviously nobody cares, since it's on every hack
> archive in history.

speaking of which, what was the first ROM hack that was published? Anyone old enough in the scene to know that one?
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Old 01-31-2006, 03:27 AM   #9
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> no, I expect the submitter to get into contact of the author
> of the ONE hack they are submitting.

What if that person is impossible to get in contact with? What if they don't speak their languange? What if the submitter has a giant package of hacks they want to submit (more than just one)?

You're saying all these people should jump through all these hoops... and for what? So the author can have his ego stroked? I really don't see the issue here. People don't give a second thought to contacting authors of other (far more respectable) works.

Again... what makes ROM hacks so special?

> FCEU is on hundreds of
> sites as it is.. nobody is going to ask permission. Super
> funkadelic disco brothers 4 might only be found on ONE site,
> (the site the author submitted it to). I think that makes a
> difference.

So it's okay to distribute a publication without express permission... if it has already been distriubuted without express permission in the past? That doesn't make any sense.

> A simple, "is it ok if I post this on another
> site?" is all you need.

A simple "do not redistribute" in the readme is all the author needs if that's really such a concern. But again the whole point of releasing a ROM hack is to have it be distributed.

All this hoop jumping serves no purpose.

> Now, a hack like Mario 99 or something common like that, is
> different, obviously nobody cares, since it's on every hack
> archive in history.

This is the same thing as your FCEU example.... it's such a double-standard... I just can't see your logic. It's like you're saying it's okay to steal from someone that's already been stolen from in the past. (Note: not that I see this as stealing -- it's just an analogy).
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Old 01-31-2006, 04:04 AM   #10
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Mario Zelda by EFX, IIRC, which changed Link to Mario in The Legend of Zelda.
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