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Old 10-15-2009, 07:38 PM   #11
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Ungodly,

You're right that most users would be satisfied on OpenOffice.org. But regarding the features that are missing when comparing it to Microsoft Office, I can say that Calc doesn't come close to Excel 2007/2010. There are far more formatting options and Excel is capable of making more advanced charts and pivot tables. I'm sure there are far more, but I'm not what you would consider a power user that would actually notice.

The reason I choose Microsoft Office is mainly for the features of Excel. I also use Outlook on a constant basis with my Exchange account. In general though, I also prefer Office 2007/2010's interface to OpenOffice. The only real feature I've found that OOo has but Microsoft Office doesn't is PDF support, but that can be added with an optional download from the Office site. The only reason it wasn't included is because Adobe bitched that it would hurt Acrobat sales.
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Old 10-15-2009, 10:01 PM   #12
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I can't speak of the newer "ribbon" interface for Office, I read an article about it prior to it's release but haven't actually used it myself.

To me, the definition of a power user would be this... If whatever you're working on will make enough money to justify the cost of Microsoft Office then by all means, buy it. But if the features that you would get with MS Office won't help you make money, don't bother. And I'd guess that for 99% of people, Open Office will easily satisfy their needs. Also, if security is an issue, look long and hard at Open Office.

The reason I originally switched to Open Office was this... The company for which I served as the I.T. Director had one of the top human resources managers quit in a very shady manner. He refused to disclose any manner, including the passwords he had attached to various crucial Word and Excel documents. After a bit of Googling, I was able to find a program that removed the MS Office passwords in a matter of seconds. (Note: It completely removed password security, it didn't crack the password.) During my research, I saw numerous people advocating for the superiority of Open Office's security. Now, security isn't going to be the primary issue for most users and it's possible that said security has been upgraded since MS Office 2005, but it's definitely something that should be kept in mind.
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:22 AM   #13
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I read online that open office was slow, and that it let in back door viruses or something along those lines. This isn't my computer, so I didn't even want to risk it.
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Old 10-16-2009, 03:29 AM   #14
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Old 10-16-2009, 03:50 AM   #15
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I read online that open office was slow, and that it let in back door viruses or something along those lines. This isn't my computer, so I didn't even want to risk it.
Just do a Google on how secure is Open Office. As for slow, I used to have it and it was slow but that was years ago and I installed EVERYTHING. I imagine if you had a decent amount of ram and a pretty modern CPU it would run fine since they have been optimizing the code for years. I'd wait now a bit since there are some hardcore Linux users here that also run MS and know a hell of a lot about Open Office and are very familiar with it.

As a side not I was just reading IBM a huge computer company who have strong security rules on company software have mandated just like a couple months ago the use of Open Office whenever possible.

Here's the press release http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online...crosoft-Office

If they are doing this I think the software must be safe/secure to use and also faster.

If you just need word you can just install the Open Office version and whatever else you think you might need plus the base program itself and it shouldn't take up a lot of room or slow down the computer to much.
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Old 10-16-2009, 03:54 AM   #16
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I can't speak of the newer "ribbon" interface for Office, I read an article about it prior to it's release but haven't actually used it myself.
The ribbon is actually one of the nicer features introduced in 2007. It basically solves the age-old problem of toolbar clutter by creating one consistent UI element that controls everything. It also dynamically changes depending on what you are working on. For example, if you select a picture, it will change with options relevant to image manipulation. It takes a little getting used to, but it is well worth it. It's also nice from a support perspective because now everyone has the same options, custom toolbar pretty much don't exist anymore.

The only gripe I have about the ribbon is the one they are introducing in Office 2010 for Outlook really doesn't make much sense. Hopefully as the beta progresses, they will improve it.

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To me, the definition of a power user would be this... If whatever you're working on will make enough money to justify the cost of Microsoft Office then by all means, buy it. But if the features that you would get with MS Office won't help you make money, don't bother. And I'd guess that for 99% of people, Open Office will easily satisfy their needs. Also, if security is an issue, look long and hard at Open Office.
That I would fully agree with. I think if the majority of people tried OOo, they would be quite happy on it. Most people only buy Office at this point because they feel they need to and OOo has had little to no exposure in the mainstream.

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I read online that open office was slow, and that it let in back door viruses or something along those lines. This isn't my computer, so I didn't even want to risk it.
OOo is a bit slow since it's based on Java, but on any modern computer the speed difference should be next to unnoticeable. In general, there are no security issues you need to worry about when running OOo. The only exception would be if you had someone send you a document that was crafted to be malicious and exploited a security hole by executing some sort of code. Unfortunately, that's an issue that every office suite suffers from including Microsoft Office. As long as you keep your office suite consistently up-to-date and run a decent antivirus application, this shouldn't be a concern.
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Old 10-16-2009, 08:26 AM   #17
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For those not in the know, I'm planning on making a sex simulator. It'll be free, and open source, so you can modify the girls and situations to your heart's content.

I'm going to call it Open Orifice.
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:18 PM   #18
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I read online that open office was slow, and that it let in back door viruses or something along those lines. This isn't my computer, so I didn't even want to risk it.
The only difference in that regard to MS Office is that the security holes in Open Office are visible for anyone to find and fix. A fix is usually available almost instantly for any popular open source software.

With Windows, there have been security holes remain open for years at a time because the people who knew about them (and exploited them) weren't making the knowledge public. In M$'s view (at least prior to their "New Security Initiative") if the knowledge wasn't public, it didn't need to be fixed. It didn't matter how many people were getting hacked as long as they didn't know that they could blame Microsoft for it.

In general, if you're worried about viruses and trojans, all you need to do is disable any NICs, modems, disk drives and USB ports connected to the computer and it should remain virus free. Outside of that, you need to install a Chair-to-Keyboard interface intelligent enough to avoid viruses. Failure to do one of the two will almost guarantee the introduction of a virus into the system in due time.
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:52 PM   #19
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Back door viruses?
See Reaper's last post. Hehe.
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Old 10-16-2009, 03:54 PM   #20
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For those not in the know, I'm planning on making a sex simulator. It'll be free, and open source, so you can modify the girls and situations to your heart's content.

I'm going to call it Open Orifice.
Enough of these back door shenanigans. :P
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