My first "real" job

[SivakDrac]

> Some of the businesses here don't care. I had a friend who
> was hired at a Chinese place at $4.50 an hour, no tips. The
> management took the tips frmo the employees.

That's why whenever you come across anything like that you say nothing. Any loose change I find in my store, I keep.

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[Isildur]

> although I know waiters get paid much less an hour, but its
> because they are expecting tips and there is some other rule
> about that
>

I don't think there's any other rule about that-- it's just that some restaurants break the minimum wage laws. I've heard that a certain stylish restaurant near me used to pay waiters absolutely nothing, but people were still very eager to work as waiters there because the tips were extremely good.

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[Isildur]

> Some of the businesses here don't care. I had a friend who
> was hired at a Chinese place at $4.50 an hour, no tips. The
> management took the tips frmo the employees.
>

What bastards. <img src=smilies/headshake.gif>

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[SirDaShadow]

> > how? the national minimum wage is 5.15
>
> Some of the businesses here don't care. I had a friend who
> was hired at a Chinese place at $4.50 an hour, no tips. The
> management took the tips frmo the employees.
>
Report them to the goverment. If they are taking the tips they MUST pay the minimum wage. It's a federal law, you know.

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[type_x]

> You know, to be honest, I would guess that someone in, say,
> southern California making minimum wage ($6.75 I think here)
> has a rougher time than someone making $5 in the mid-West.

Yeah, that's very true. I lived in St. Louis briefly when I was 17, and shared a huge (but very old) house with my sister & her boyfriend. Rent was $650/ mo. and it was in a good neighborhood. I was able to pay my share of $200/ mo. easily waiting tables, and still had plenty of cash to throw around. Tips included, I was making around $11-12 per hour. When I moved back to California and went to school in San Francisco, I got a job in sales at CarToys. I started at $12/ hr. without commission (CarToys pays commission only after 3 months of employment) and had no extra money to spend at all, even though I was tapping into my student loan for groceries. Once my commission kicked in, I got some crumb cakes to go with my toilet wine.

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