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Old 01-24-2004, 07:30 PM   #11
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> Now get motivated and get out there and make some real money
> because $5.80./hr is an insult and garbagemen and fastfood
> workers make more

Depending on where you are. Most people I know in Fast Food are making $5 - $5.25. I was making $5.50 when I was working fast food, but I know people working at Burger joins for $4.75 as well.

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Old 01-24-2004, 07:44 PM   #12
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> Depending on where you are. Most people I know in Fast Food
> are making $5 - $5.25. I was making $5.50 when I was working
> fast food, but I know people working at Burger joins for
> $4.75 as well.

I started at Wendy's at $6.75/hr but I put down $8.50/hr to start. If you put negotiable they're gonna give you the shaft most of the time. I find a little bullshitting helps also. Act like you can manage the place and can do all the jobs even if you have never worked in that field because most retail and fastfood jobs can be done easily with a 10th grade education. They're looking more for confidence, someone who will show up for work when schedueled, and someone who will take innitiative to get the job done and someone like that is worth 4 regular workers since they don't have to be watched constantly by someone making $40k a years and they're willing to pay more for those kind of employees. <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

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Old 01-24-2004, 08:39 PM   #13
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> they're willing to pay more for those kind of
> employees.

It's so obvious you don't live in Michigan <img src=smilies/laff.gif>

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Old 01-24-2004, 09:49 PM   #14
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> It's so obvious you don't live in Michigan
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Worse, NH and I'm in a tourist area that has had once been mostly manufacturing area which has more or less retail as the backbone in the winter with some manufacturing and only some and almost no tourism since it isn't summer. We have more people on welfare and unemployment than in manufacturing at this moment, since Bush took office the economy in my state has taken a nosedive into the shitter. <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

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Old 01-25-2004, 06:33 AM   #15
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> > because $5.80./hr is an insult and garbagemen and fastfood
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> > workers make more

> Depending on where you are. Most people I know in Fast Food
> are making $5 - $5.25. I was making $5.50 when I was working
> fast food, but I know people working at Burger joins for
> $4.75 as well.

Fuck, there is something wrong with this world. How can any human being POSSIBLY live on pennies like that?! I do think it's wrong that some employers pay so little, and I don't like to see good people willingly work for such wages (unless some disability prevents them from being able to perform work in a better position). Anyone with a good head and some motivation can earn a decent income if they put themselves up to it. I don't have a college degree, nor do I have any formal training or even intermediate computer skills. Granted, I occasionally work 60 hours in a week and being in sales can induce vein-exploding stress (December....<img src=smilies/errrr.gif>), but it's worth it. I'm earning in a month now what some people make in a year. You can do it too, my advice is to get into a sales position that pays a salary plus commission. Don't bother with low profit margin industries such as auto sales. Find something good and profitable... I recommend working sales in high-end/ custom car audio or industrial electronics/ components, because the margins (mark-ups) are incredibly high and it's a lot of fun. Dedicate yourself to it and give it some time, before long $30k/ yr. will become $60k, and if you're really good it just keeps growing and growing. I got started in sales about eight years ago when I was 17, and I remember thinking "I'm not cut out for sales". That's bullshit. It's a matter of whether you're cut out for money!<img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

Not that sales is the only way, just the way I found. Motivation breeds success whichever path you take.

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Old 01-25-2004, 05:50 PM   #16
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> Depending on where you are. Most people I know in Fast Food
> are making $5 - $5.25. I was making $5.50 when I was working
> fast food, but I know people working at Burger joins for
> $4.75 as well.
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What? You mean I'm actually making MORE than someone? <img src=smilies/retard.gif>

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Old 01-25-2004, 08:59 PM   #17
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> Well, at least you have reasonable-seeming employment. Heck, I
> have a degree and have had it since August and am still working
> in retail at $5.80/hour. Only reason I have stayed on for 2.5
> years is cause I didn't feel like looking for any other similar,
> crappy work.

Keep in mind, I live in California. $11 an hour is like maybe $8 an hour in most areas in the Mid-West, if that. So it's decent but not super. I'm hoping for two things...that I get regular raises if I do well and that I might get the opportunity to become a programmer in this company, since they are sort of a software company. You having a degree should help you beyond what you make. Try to get ANY sort of computer job, even like what I have. At the very least, you'll have experience in some computer job to put on your resume, and depending on what company you work for, you can learn other skills. Heck, I might wind up learning a lot about real estate appraisals in this job and I'll probably be doing the must gruntly of work in the company. I'm guessing that's how a lot of people start.

> Kudos to you, buddy. Good luck with the situation of your
> parents.

That turned out really well actually. Sometimes I'm really glad my mom has her bf to talk some fucking sense into her, because even though she told me that he had said "That's the worst thing he could do" when he first heard about me getting the FT job, I think he knew that the best thing to do was not to try to chew me out into staying in full-time college and only getting part-time work, but to support me in whatever my decision is. So the talk we three had yesterday was a pretty good talk. They were helping me figure out what all the expenses are that I would need to make room in my budget for. I mean I'm not even moving out for another half year at least, but I do need to sort this shit out before I move out and then get overwhelmed. So I'm glad that even though they both disagree with my path, they're going to be on my side and help me reach my goals. My mom might finally be realizing that I'm grown up.

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Old 01-25-2004, 09:07 PM   #18
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> Fuck, there is something wrong with this world. How can any
> human being POSSIBLY live on pennies like that?!

You know, to be honest, I would guess that someone in, say, southern California making minimum wage ($6.75 I think here) has a rougher time than someone making $5 in the mid-West. Unless you live in ghettoish areas, apartments here cost no less than $800 (and that's a STUDIO), food here is more expensive, gas here is a LOT more expensive, commuting places even as close as 10 miles away can take over an hour depending on where it is...I mean just about everything is more expensive, probably more than the difference of minimum wages would make you think.

Consider the budget I came up with for instance. The budget is for when I move out, when I'll be roommating with my best friend. I wagered probably a bit high for car insurance and rent ($1000/6 months for car insurance, $600 for half of monthly rent for a 2 bdrm apartment), and probably low for food and gas ($250/month for food and $60/month for gas), and even with my mom paying for my college, I would have to work overtime to stay out of the red each month, and that's with NO saving. If you're working full-time minimum wage here, you have no chance in hell unless you're rooming with likt 5 or 6 people in a 1 bdrm apartment, lol.

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Old 01-26-2004, 05:55 AM   #19
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> Depending on where you are. Most people I know in Fast Food
> are making $5 - $5.25. I was making $5.50 when I was working
> fast food, but I know people working at Burger joins for
> $4.75 as well.
>

how? the national minimum wage is 5.15

although I know waiters get paid much less an hour, but its because they are expecting tips and there is some other rule about that


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Old 01-26-2004, 06:28 AM   #20
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> how? the national minimum wage is 5.15

Some of the businesses here don't care. I had a friend who was hired at a Chinese place at $4.50 an hour, no tips. The management took the tips frmo the employees. <img src=smilies/headshake.gif>

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