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08-12-2009, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by InVerse
I almost looked that up, I'm certainly no expert on anything related to SNES. I guess I was thinking F-Zero because it was supposed to have been so technically impressive at the time. (Hell, F-Zero is credited as being the reason that Doom exists and Doom is basically the reason that FPSes exist, so F-Zero is the grandfather of Halo!)
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What about Wolfenstein 3D and Spear of Destiny, which preceeded Doom?
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08-12-2009, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Isildur
What about Wolfenstein 3D and Spear of Destiny, which preceeded Doom?
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The graphics engine for those games rendered the floor and ceiing as a solid color, where as F-Zero had a "floor texture." It was probably the mode 7 rendering that inspired Carmack to figure out how to render textures on the ceiling/floor. That's my guess though, as I have yet to read the book.
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08-12-2009, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Isildur
What about Wolfenstein 3D and Spear of Destiny, which preceeded Doom?
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While Wolfenstein achieved a certain degree of popularity, I don't think they FPS genre would have taken off like it did without Doom. Reaperman's guess is pretty close, here are a quote from the book. (Incidentally, I have a copy of the book in txt format, if anybody wants it, but it would be a massive pain in the ass to read, I imagine.)
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The opportunity to experiment came during the development of Spear of Destiny, the commercial spin-off of Wolfenstein that id was now making for FormGen. The game was named for the mythical spear used to kill Christ, an object later sought by Hitler for its supposed supernatural powers. In the game, Hitler steals the spear and B.J. must fight to win it back. FormGen’s original concerns over violence had faded with Wolfenstein’s success, so id was free to continue on its gory path.
Because Spear of Destiny was built using the original Wolfenstein engine, Carmack could work on new technology while the rest of the guys completed the game. At first, he fiddled with countless little experiments, using art resources from the existing games. He played around with making a racing game like F-Zero, the hovercraft title he played now and then with Romero. Carmack covered the floor of his computer screen with an angular blue matrix of lines. Then he started laying down images that together would make up roads. The only digital images around were big banners of Hitler from Wolfenstein, so he put those down back to back, making a highway of Hitlers surrounded by a sprawling web. Carmack could lose himself in the abstract mathematical imagery of this world, working on the acceleration of movement, the sense of speed, velocity, decline.
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08-13-2009, 02:04 AM
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Man this is going off topic and even the Admin is in on it :P
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08-13-2009, 02:20 AM
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This is the Internet, topics are frowned upon.
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08-13-2009, 03:34 AM
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Man this is going off topic and even the Admin is in on it :P
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What, we answered your question, what more do you want?
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08-13-2009, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Reaper man
What, we answered your question, what more do you want?
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You see this ":P" in my post, this means that I was meant to be funny.
Welcome to the Internet BTW :P
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08-14-2009, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by the_importer
You see this ":P" in my post, this means that I was meant to be funny.
Welcome to the Internet BTW :P
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":P" usually either means something like a resigned "sheesh" or a Charlie Brown-ish "Good grief", or marks a self-deprecating admission of a fault. While it's true that it may be used to indicate that an unfortunate situation has a humorus aspect, a wink smiley is a surer way to indicate that an entire statement is meant only humorously.
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08-15-2009, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by the_importer
Man this is going off topic and even the Admin is in on it :P
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Heh, sorry about that.
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