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Old 01-22-2006, 02:17 AM   #21
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> It depends on HOW you use savestates. If you play the game
> normally and only use savestates to pause/resume your
> play... I fail to see how that would take away any of the
> accomplishment. I mean you still accept when you die and
> restart from the last place you saved.

But still, for the Ancient Cave I at least see his point. I haven't even beaten that yet, and I fucking love the Ancient Cave...I have so many fond memories of leaving my SNES on for days and just playing the damn thing like crazy.

I know a girl who got all the way down to the end and beat the boss there, and let me tell you that's at least kinda hardcore in my opinion. lol
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Old 01-22-2006, 02:24 AM   #22
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> Vegas Dream:

Sorry it's so long they say...that'd take 20 minutes to write if you were being careful and double checking, and even then you'd still probably screw on letter up.
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Old 01-22-2006, 04:44 AM   #23
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> Sorry it's so long they say...that'd take 20 minutes to
> write if you were being careful and double checking, and
> even then you'd still probably screw on letter up.

Well, if you got lucky you'd reverse the two letters that store how much money you have. That's the only way I managed to beat that game <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>
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Old 01-22-2006, 08:16 AM   #24
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> Hey, I liked Mega Man codes, they made sense.
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> It was the kind of codes used in fucking USA Metroid,
> Guardian Legend, Battle of Olympus, and Hydlide that I
> hated. Those 48 - 64 character chains of incoherent letters

The password system implemented in Mega Man 2 was the shit. I was confused by the grid the first time I saw it, but once I realized it'd be twenty times faster to record/enter than Metroid passwords, I loved the game even more.

And just try to memorize a Metroid code----well, other than this one:

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Old 01-22-2006, 08:22 AM   #25
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> I typically call this save-state abuse. And I agree, it's
> pretty lame. I'd argue that's not what savestates are for,
> though.

Does anyone else think the Prince of Persia rewind time feature was the direct result of save state abuse?

Now that'd be a cool emulator feature----rewind mapped to a joystick button. Oh wait, does Zsnes do this (haven't used PC emus in quite a while)?
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Old 01-22-2006, 09:06 AM   #26
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crazy that works

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Old 01-22-2006, 04:50 PM   #27
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> Does anyone else think the Prince of Persia rewind time
> feature was the direct result of save state abuse?
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> Now that'd be a cool emulator feature----rewind mapped to a
> joystick button.

http://nesdev.parodius.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=331
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Old 01-23-2006, 02:26 AM   #28
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> Now that'd be a cool emulator feature----rewind mapped to a
> joystick button. Oh wait, does Zsnes do this (haven't used
> PC emus in quite a while)?

You could map it to just about anything you wanted I'd suspect. It seems like a more common feature these days, the rewind key. Even nesDS (the NES emulator for the DS as you might expect) has something like this.

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Old 01-23-2006, 08:48 AM   #29
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Doooooooooood.....thanks for the link. <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

I just tried out the rewind feature on http://mednafen.com/Mednafen</a> and it's hilariously awesome---it plays the audio while rewinding too. Now if there was only a Xbox port or rewind was added to FCEUltraX. I can't it try out with a SNES/NES pad on my PC because I hacked 'em up for use on the Xbox.

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Old 01-23-2006, 08:50 AM   #30
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> the rewind key. Even nesDS (the NES emulator for the DS as
> you might expect) has something like this.

Ahh..another reason to get a DS, along with the http://emuholic.emuboards.com/module...id=1484&tbid=4WiFi apps</a>.
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