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Old 05-22-2007, 01:06 AM   #11
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***** MORE SPOILERS! ALERT *****

He didn't want his son because he loved him. He wanted a son so that he could have an extension of himself. To him, his son was nothing more than someone to carry his name another generation. He basically said as much when he was talking with the doctor -- when he told him that if he had to choose, the doctor should save his son.

Mercedes recognized this, too. That's why she shot down his request at the end right before they shot him.

Also -- I suspect that he even went so far as to kill Carmen's previous husband so that she would carry his child. The movie never actually clarifies, but it's definately something I feel he's capable of, and judging from Carmen's story surrounding how they met, and his reaction to that story, it seems like the logical conclusion.

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Old 05-22-2007, 01:57 AM   #12
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> This is why there is an established ratings system. If
> parents are stupid enough not to mind it, their problem.
> The only reason it's there is to appease lazy parents in the
> first place.

That's true, but it doesn't change the fact that films are deceptively marketed. I wonder how many people went to a Mother's Day screening of Georgia Rule based on the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqvvtx6lXcUseemingly innocuous preview</A>.

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Old 05-22-2007, 02:30 AM   #13
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> That's true, but it doesn't change the fact that films are
> deceptively marketed. I wonder how many people went to a
> Mother's Day screening of Georgia Rule based on the
> seemingly innocuous preview.

That's true, but it's not the same as misconstruing an R rated film as a film for children, when ratings are clearly posted before you buy tickets.


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Old 05-22-2007, 07:11 AM   #14
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Yeah, and more parents need to read the accompanying text -- STRONG VIOLENCE, SEXUAL SITUATIONS, etc. Given that one 'fuck' will take a film over the top, I think a lot of people gamble on the film being mostly OK based on the heavily edited 'approved for general audiences' preview.

> That's true, but it's not the same as misconstruing an R
> rated film as a film for children, when ratings are clearly
> posted before you buy tickets.
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Old 05-22-2007, 03:05 PM   #15
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I watched this film knowing very little about it, other than it's about the Spanish Civil War and it has a dark fairy tale story to it. Which, I guess, is a good thing, since I never saw previews for it and didn't have anythign ruined for me when I watched it.

All in all, it was a very good movie, probably the best movie to come out from last year, seeing as how a majority of films lately have been crappy remakes and dissapointing sequels.
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