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Old 11-17-2004, 09:11 PM   #1
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Default Where is emulation?

I looked at zophar.net's rank on alexa....we're 40,863 with 1/5 stars (1 reviewer didn't like us). It suggested other sites to visit like ours....let's go through them:

www.emucamp.com
Hanging on by its last thread

www.classicgaming.com
Some IGN GameSpy money maker thing

www.emugames.com
Dead

retrogames.com
Updated news, no files

kinox.org
Dead

geoshock.com
Dead

emuunlim.com
Dead

emuholic.com
Dead

darkmazda.com
Dead

emuhq.com
Dead

vintagegaming.com
Totally gone

What happened in the time that I haven't been following the scene? Where did everyone go? Alexa said we had a 48% decrease in traffic over the last 3 months.

Are we done? Is emulation over?

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Old 11-17-2004, 09:23 PM   #2
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Default Re: Where is emulation?

I know ngemu and emufanatics are still around, but they deal with nextgen emulation

as far as I know, ZD is the only good place for classic emulation

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Old 11-17-2004, 09:24 PM   #3
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> Are we done? Is emulation over?

Personally I think emulation has been over with for a while now... the heart and soul of it passed... not much remains of the old ways. What is left is but a memory.

Oh, and kids wanting new GBA r0mz and PS2 IS0s.

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Old 11-17-2004, 09:30 PM   #4
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> I looked at zophar.net's rank on alexa....we're 40,863 with
> 1/5 stars (1 reviewer didn't like us). It suggested other
> sites to visit like ours....

I think of several other major ones not listed:

http://www.vg-network.com/Vintage Gaming Network</a> - This is a very active one. Perhaps this is where "vintagegaming.com" went.

http://www.emulation9.com/Emulation 9</a> - A popular, albeit Japanese, news site.

http://www.ngemu.com/NGEmu</a> - Not a general news site, but still a biggie.


> Where did everyone go? Alexa said we had a 48%
> decrease in traffic over the last 3 months.

I dunno how the trends usually go, but that's how long it's been since the academic year started.


> Are we done? Is emulation over?

My impression is that it has just become less centralized. Instead of being dominated by general, ZD-like sites, emulation has split into things like hacking, emulation for consoles, etc. I'd say something deeper, but I have to go to a class.

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Old 11-17-2004, 09:37 PM   #5
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> My impression is that it has just become less centralized.
> Instead of being dominated by general, ZD-like sites,
> emulation has split into things like hacking, emulation for
> consoles, etc. I'd say something deeper, but I have to go
> to a class.

All the site owners used to talk to each other, link to each other, share news, share files, etc. I'm just curious as to why things are the way they are.

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Old 11-17-2004, 10:05 PM   #6
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> Oh, and kids wanting new GBA r0mz and PS2 IS0s.

I'm certain that's it, it's no longer reliving the classics, it's getting the new games for free.

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Old 11-17-2004, 10:17 PM   #7
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Old 11-17-2004, 10:19 PM   #8
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> All the site owners used to talk to each other, link to each
> other, share news, share files, etc. I'm just curious as to
> why things are the way they are.

Yeah, I wasn't around in the old days, so it's hard for me to really understand the differences. My best guess would be that it's just a consequence of expansion. As the community got bigger, it probably started to get less friendly, same as in any small town.

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Old 11-17-2004, 10:26 PM   #9
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> I'm certain that's it, it's no longer reliving the classics,
> it's getting the new games for free.

That's partly what it's always been. There was never a time during the iNES/NESticle days where you couldn't go out and actually BUY an NES and games. Hell, even today you can get your hands on an NES and games. I was still buying SNES games when SNES9x and ZSNES were under development... because they were still being sold. Even today, you can go out and buy them if you look hard enough (and, of course, you have to be willing to actually pay money for them).

Part of the appeal to retro emulation is playing games which bring back some memories... but most of the appeal (and I mean like 90% or more) is, and always has been, getting whatever games you want... whenever you want... for free. Including games that weren't previously available (Japan-only games, unreleased prototypes, etc).

People that use "nostolgia" as their excuse to being into emulation are fooling nobody but themselves. There are people that actually DO dig the system and want the real nostolgia feeling... but they actually GO OUT AND BUY the games. You can get the nostolgia... but it comes at a price. If you don't want to pay the price, you can turn to emulation... but at that point you're no longer doing it for nostolgia... you're doing it for free nostolgia... which is stealing plain and simple.

The whole elitist, holier-than-thou crap sucks. Just because emulation is more advances now, doesn't mean it's any different than it was 10 years ago. The kids that are getting into it are the same kind of kids that were getting into it before. So accept that you're stealing.... admit that you're part of a circle of piracy (which you are), and quit thinking you're betting than other people because you choose to steal different games than the ones they're stealing.

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Old 11-17-2004, 10:33 PM   #10
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> I'm certain that's it, it's no longer reliving the classics,
> it's getting the new games for free.

Bah, I've always thought this argument was BS. I wasn't big into the scene at the time, but I was on this message board in '98 and people seemed just as concerned about "playing games for free" as they are now. What certainly is true is that the intelligence of the average emulation enthusiast has dropped, both because an overall internet trend and because it's a lot easier to participate in emulation nowadays.

We also have to keep in mind that back in 1998, the only major systems that were truly "classic" were the old Atari systems and maybe the NES. The potential for nostalgia in teenagers and young adults (the majority of the emu community) five years after the games were popular is extremely limited. I think I can fairly say that I'm indulging in nostalgia when I play Dragon Warrior IV now. I couldn't have said that seven years ago.

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