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Old 06-19-2004, 02:56 AM   #31
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> But that'll be too confusing, I've already known a Dr. Ian
> for years on GSCentral!

Bah, he's not the REAL Dr. Ian, I am.

Well, if you prefer, call me Dr. Z or something. :P


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Old 06-19-2004, 05:40 AM   #32
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> Again, I still think I am right.

Clearly, you are delusional and don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

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Old 06-19-2004, 06:49 AM   #33
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> Well, if you prefer, call me Dr. Z or something. :P

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Old 06-20-2004, 02:48 AM   #34
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Oh, someone have a different opinion than mine ! He must be a fucktard ! /UMM

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Old 06-20-2004, 04:18 AM   #35
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> Oh, someone have a different opinion than mine ! He must be
> a fucktard ! /UMM

Oh, I refuse to listen to logic and many well-documented cases where it's perfectly possible to have pixel-perfect accuracy when emulating things! I must be right, and I shall refuse to listen to even the most clearly laid-out responses - especially those citing MAME - that try to suggest otherwise! Besides, I haven't even bothered to explain what sort of emulation I'm talking about - whether it's emulation on the gate level, which is obviously impossible, or whether it's emulation on a pixel-accuracy and sample-accuracy level, wherein it's perfectly possible! /Cornellius
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Old 06-20-2004, 04:26 AM   #36
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Dude, is it so hard to take the fact that other people may have different opinion than you ?

UMM said: Clearly, you are delusional.

Which sort of reply have you expected with these sort of replies ? This is a message board, you can't expect anyone to agree with you. The fact that someone have a different opinion than you doesn't make that person a stupid person.

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Old 06-20-2004, 04:35 AM   #37
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Default Like I said on IRC, just to clarify...

You're correct if you mean that perfect emulation at a gate level is impossible, because that would be far to complex for any computer in the forseeable future to handle. Perfect emulation in the sense that all of the pixels are the exact same RGB value and the exact same position and the sound samples are the exact same levels at the exact same times for the exact same inputs on the equivalent original hardware is possible, and has been done on numerous occasions by MAME.

However, console emulation is different in that as opposed to arcade hardware where you only have, at most, around fifty games running on specific hardware, you have several hundred if not over a thousand. Invariably, you will have games that discover loopholes in the hardware, ways to push the hardware beyond its original specification, undocumented features in the hardware, glitches in the hardware, and so on. Therefore, yes, at first a console emulator will not be perfect, that's true. However, it's then the emulator author's duty to research these undocumented hardware features or hardware glitches, and implement them in the emulator.

This has not been done yet in many (if any) console emulators except for the very early consoles, simply because most of the authors are focused on quantity rather than quality. So you're right, as of yet there are no perfect GameBoy emulators, or Playstation emulators, or SNES emulators, or NES emulators, and so on. However, to say that it is not possible to be perfect is incorrect.

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Old 06-20-2004, 05:19 AM   #38
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Oh god, that's even better! <img src=smilies/laff.gif>

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Old 06-22-2004, 07:57 PM   #39
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> Very soon I will be obtaining my Phd in Emulation 101, so
> you will have to refer to me as Dr Ian from now on. :P
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I think it's penis envy.

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Old 06-23-2004, 02:30 AM   #40
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> I think it's penis envy.

If that's the case, then who's penis am I envying?

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