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Old 12-01-2005, 01:58 AM   #11
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Default Re: OMG won't someone think of the children!!!1/1!eone

> The industry report card for this year where they send in
> children to try buying the games and see if they succeed
> stil found 52% of the time, kids could buy MA rated games.

http://www.mediafamily.org/research/...grc_2005.shtmlThe newest</a> actually says 44% success rate. Which is still pretty bad. But 42 stores seems a bit too small segment to me.

It's also worth reading http://biz.gamedaily.com/features.asp?article_id=11225this article</a> which has the ESRB and IEMA responses.

But the report card isn't all bad. They do recommend parents to buy the Minish Cap and We Love Katamari <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:18 AM   #12
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> Really, I don't see the problem.
> Will this make it so hard for you to get your games ?

It's not a matter of whether it prevents me from getting my games or not. It's a matter of the government trying to play nanny for people when it really has no goddamn business doing so. This bill, if it is passed, makes M-rated videogames have effectively the same legality as cigarettes and alcohol, and as far as I'm concerned, that's wrong on so fucking many levels. It's not the government's goddamn business to determine whether or not someone should have an M-rated game, because it's just that, a game. It doesn't cause cirrhosis of the liver, it doesn't give you cancer. It's a fucking game, and yet the government somehow feels the need to step in and outlaw them to the point of those that do the above two things. Do you really think that the entertainment industry should become some political boondoggle for politicians to leverage for votes? <img src=smilies/headshake.gif>
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:21 AM   #13
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YOU"RE NOT THINKING OF THE CHILDREN! WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

That's what I think the ol' government would reply to you.
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:27 AM   #14
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> YOU"RE NOT THINKING OF THE CHILDREN! WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE
> THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
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> That's what I think the ol' government would reply to you.

To which I would reply: There's no law that says R-rated movies, which are the exact MPAA equivalent of the ESRB's M-rated games, can't have kids attend. It's completely voluntary on the part of the theaters, but somehow I don't see Hilarity using them as something to be taken advantage of for nothing more than political gain (you can't honestly tell me she's doing this just because she cares about the precious children). You don't see people actively campaigning to ban them from children. Why? Because that would make R-rated movies exactly the same as X-rated movies. We already have an Adults Only videogame rating. The majority of game retailers don't stock AO-rated videogames, same as they don't stock X-rated movies. Why do we need to make M effectively be the exact same rating as AO? Why are games portrayed as digital serial-killer-makers that need to be banned from small children when movies are hardly given a second thought? I submit that seeing real human beings "getting killed" is, if anything, more effective on a child's psyche than killing some polygonal haitians.
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:41 AM   #15
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>Why are games portrayed as digital serial-killer-makers
> that need to be banned from small children when movies are
> hardly given a second thought?

I put forth that the reason is that governing a country is hard, and the ones in charge would rather do this instead of their job. It's easier, I'd imagine.
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:31 AM   #16
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:49 AM   #17
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Default Re: OMG won't someone think of the children!!!1/1!eone

It's a game for you, not for everyone. If the parent aren't intelligent enough to watch which games their children are playing, then yes, someone have to take care of this.
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Old 12-01-2005, 04:14 AM   #18
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> It's a game for you, not for everyone. If the parent aren't
> intelligent enough to watch which games their children are
> playing, then yes, someone have to take care of this.
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Yeah, but not the friggin government. You should know full well that if they do pass that law, what's to stop them from getting rid of other things? What if they start thinking "Dear lord, Christmas is an evil holiday, it should be banned" or "Other countries don't celebrate Thanksgiving, so we should get rid of it so our immagrants can live here peacefully and not have <u>our</u> culture shoved down their throats." I know it sounds ridiculous, but the fact remains, all that is highly plausible. In fact, it's already on the verge of that. In some areas you aren't allowed to say Merry Christmas, you have say "Happy Holidays", or someone might be offended.

When we stop relying on our own selves to provide for us and instead turn for hand-outs from the government, we as a society have died.
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Old 12-01-2005, 05:13 AM   #19
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And to think, it's for eight year olds!!!!!!!!!!!
How many people must die by blunt trauma before people realize it isn't a good idea!!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-01-2005, 05:59 AM   #20
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Always complaining, eh moogle? -- I have zero problem with this.
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