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Old 11-30-2005, 06:28 AM   #41
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I'm not sure if the first few paragraphs of that post were actually meant in reply to me or not; they don't really seem to address what I was saying; instead they speak more broadly of Christian theology.

> God is merciful to his children. Would you forgive your
> child? You might say no off the bat, depending on what
> he/she does, but deep in your heart you would find the
> strength to forgive them...You know you would...
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> For those of you with children of your own, you understand
> this. How could you not forgive something you created?

It's quite understandable that as a being of infinite mercy, God could forgive anything men do, and I never challenged that. My point was that I don't see how the death of an innocent (Jesus) is in any way relavent to that. Taking your familial analogy, it's like saying that a father was able to forgive his younger son for grave offenses, as a result of the fact that an older son, in order pay for the transgressions of his kid brother, let himself be beaten up by a local gang. If the father forgave the younger son, it would be because his love as a father moved him to mercy. It would have nothing to do with the older brother choosing to "take on the sins" of his younger brother, because that would make no sense whatsoever. Such a sacrifice would therefore be completely unnecessary.



Perhaps we're approaching a conversational impasse, because in the end, faith has to be exactly that: faith; and by its personal nature, it can't really be proven to one person by another; rather, it is something that ultimately has to come from within.

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Old 11-30-2005, 06:38 AM   #42
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> I'm nearly positive I'm missing somethere there, but my
> point is that an understanding of Old Testament animal
> sacrifice (which I sadly lack) would probably help you
> understand why someone dying for sins is supposed to be
> regarded as significant.
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Btw, I did notice this reply; the reason I haven't responded yet is that I'd like to look up (or refind) some info first...
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Old 11-30-2005, 02:32 PM   #43
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What I meant was that by dying for us, he died for our sins so that we could go to heaven. For us, the future generation, he died so we can put our prayers through him to be forgiven of sin and be able to enter the holy kingdom.

I don't really know how to explain this, it's something I feel inside me to be true that really can't be put into words easily.
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Old 12-01-2005, 06:23 PM   #44
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> The Sun. It created our planet, and in essence created us.
> In about five billion years from it will destroy this
> planet.

Thus spake Carlin the Wise. Our other god shall be Joe Pesci.
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:26 PM   #45
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Baby don't hurt me. Don't hurt me. No more.

*puts on a purple polyester suit and gold chains, and starts diagonal head-bobbing while driving down the street*
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Old 12-01-2005, 10:02 PM   #46
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> Baby don't hurt me. Don't hurt me. No more.
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> *puts on a purple polyester suit and gold chains, and starts
> diagonal head-bobbing while driving down the street*

*joins moogle and starts head bobbing*

C'mon we need one more!
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Old 12-01-2005, 10:19 PM   #47
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> *joins moogle and starts head bobbing*
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> C'mon we need one more!
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Oh, what the Hell. *Joins along.*
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Old 12-02-2005, 02:26 PM   #48
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That movie was fuckin hilarious <img src=smilies/laff.gif><img src=smilies/laff.gif>
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Old 01-10-2006, 11:46 AM   #49
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> > *joins moogle and starts head bobbing*
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> > C'mon we need one more!
> Oh, what the Hell. *Joins along.*

haha thats nice, a moogle, death and a vampire slayer bobbing heads to the 90's music! only needs a goth metal band, "Cradle of Filth" joins along!

(if any one can put any non mixable figurs dancing on dance from the 90's please speak out!)
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