Microsoft quietly agrees that Firefox does indeed rule hard

[Lobster Cowboy]

http://news.com.com/Reversal+Next+IE...3-5577263.html

gee, i wonder what made them change their minds all of a sudden...

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[metbot]

I saw it coming...
I'm not surprised.
Thier next move is probably going to buy out another browser


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[Isildur]

> I saw it coming...
> I'm not surprised.
> Thier next move is probably going to buy out another browser
>

*gasp* [img]/wwwthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] B-b-but, they could never abandon IE! Didn't you learn anything from their testimony in Federal Court? It's an absolutely integral component of the Windows OS! Windows couldn't possibly work without it!

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[punjman]

I wonder if Bill has ever heard the term...

"pwned."

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[Danoz]

IE is terrible, when I became enlightened to firefox I couldn't believe it... in the spirit of firefox, I'm using your signature -- thanks.

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[SwampGas]

He invented the term "pwned" when he stole the Lisa and DOS code.

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[JCE3000GT]

> He invented the term "pwned" when he stole the Lisa and DOS
> code.

Didn't microsoft actually and or eventually "purchase" the rights/patent? I had an arguement with a customer last week about this...they INSISTED that microsoft bought the rights...I insisted they they really kind of stole it. So in request for factual and unbiased data...which is actually and legally true? I want to believe he stole it...I really do. But I do request factual evidence.

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[Slicer S. V.]

> Didn't microsoft actually and or eventually "purchase" the
> rights/patent? I had an arguement with a customer last week
> about this...they INSISTED that microsoft bought the

> rights...I insisted they they really kind of stole it. So
> in request for factual and unbiased data...which is actually
> and legally true? I want to believe he stole it...I really

> do. But I do request factual evidence.

well... i do not think there were software patents and/or rights at that point. what he did, if i remember correctly, was notice the code, thought it was cool, asked the original maker about it, the original maker said he didn't care and was gonna leave it alone, and Bill then took it, changed it a little, and then redistributed it...

i consider that to be stealing by Bill's own definition, since he considers us OSS people to steal from each other :P

of course, i could be wrong, and i have no evidence for my theory, MS is very ingenius at covering up the details of its rise to power

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[Wren]

Microsoft legally bought the rights to a very simple operating system called QDOS (Quick & dirty OS) from a couple in Seattle who had originally developed it for throw away purposes. MS later licensed MS-DOS to IBM and PC-DOS was born.

Whether Microsoft copied anything from Apple is questionable. It is known that Steve Jobs originally lifted his idea for the Lisa/Mac OS from a demonstration that he saw of the Star OS at Xerox's PARC facility in Menlo Park.

No matter how it happened, Xerox was responsible for the first graphical system, with both Apple and Microsoft following with their respective products.

-Wren

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[Slicer S. V.]

> Microsoft legally bought the rights to a very simple
> operating system called QDOS (Quick & dirty OS) from a
> couple in Seattle who had originally developed it for throw
> away purposes. MS later licensed MS-DOS to IBM and PC-DOS
> was born.

yes, that's the story, thanks

> Whether Microsoft copied anything from Apple is
> questionable. It is known that Steve Jobs originally lifted
> his idea for the Lisa/Mac OS from a demonstration that he
> saw of the Star OS at Xerox's PARC facility in Menlo Park.

yeah, i know about this

> No matter how it happened, Xerox was responsible for the
> first graphical system, with both Apple and Microsoft
> following with their respective products.

yeah, now to try to convince my mother of this, and also that the X system was being developed around the same time as well (which it was, if a little later and it took a much longer time for the graphical part to be added)

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