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Old 06-17-2005, 01:58 AM   #31
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> I won't mention the specific name of the site because that
> would be giving it free publicity, but I saw that there's a
> site that allows the downloading of roms for a monthly fee,
> and you can only run the games while the company's client
> software is running. I think that's a good idea.

Well, considering they are selling copies of things they have no right to sell, I'd say it must be illegal.
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Old 06-17-2005, 02:04 AM   #32
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> experience it every day, so please stop doing it.
> P.S. I'm asking NICELY.

On a message board, I've found that the best way to get people to stop bugging you is to just ignore them and stop responding to their posts.
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Old 06-17-2005, 02:18 AM   #33
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> Well, considering they are selling copies of things they
> have no right to sell, I'd say it must be illegal.

It's more like renting access to things they physically own. They have a system in place where whenever you get a ROM it checks it out of their system against a real cartridge and when they run out of cartridges for that game everyone else has to wait until you're done. I presume there's a good deal of encryption on the communications so you can't just pick the ROM off the wire or dump it from RAM.
On that subject, this would require modification to the emulator, wouldn't it? So wouldn't some emus licenses require them to release the sources to the decryption and downloading modifications? Something tells me this isn't being done... Then again maybe I'm entirely wrong, or they manage minor changes to the emu and link their pay-per-play core into that.
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Old 06-17-2005, 02:24 AM   #34
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> It's more like renting access to things they physically own.
> They have a system in place where whenever you get a ROM it
> checks it out of their system against a real cartridge and
> when they run out of cartridges for that game everyone else
> has to wait until you're done.

I don't really buy this...I mean, with something like NetFlix, you're getting an actual hardcopy of the DVD. This somehow seems different to me than giving out a ROM copy of the games. Maybe this is like a copyright loophole or something.
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Old 06-17-2005, 03:23 AM   #35
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> On that subject, this would require modification to the
> emulator, wouldn't it? So wouldn't some emus licenses
> require them to release the sources to the decryption and
> downloading modifications?

They have source code available for some of the emulators they use. As to how much is was modified, I do not know.

And from what I gather, the way the client works is: You log in, download the game (if available), save the copy to a temporary file, then automatically run the emulator with the game. Once the client is closed, the file cannot be played anymore (or at least that's how I believe it works).
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Old 06-17-2005, 04:58 AM   #36
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> From what I gather, the way the client works is: You log
> in, download the game (if available), save the copy to a
> temporary file, then automatically run the emulator with the
> game. Once the client is closed, the file cannot be played
> anymore (or at least that's how I believe it works).

Oh, I guess I was thinking of a different service.
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Old 06-17-2005, 06:16 PM   #37
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> I don't really buy this...I mean, with something like
> NetFlix, you're getting an actual hardcopy of the DVD. This
> somehow seems different to me than giving out a ROM copy of
> the games. Maybe this is like a copyright loophole or
> something.

Well, something tells me an online NES/SNES/GEN/etc. rental service based on shipping of actual cartridges wouldn't quite work today...

At least they're trying to do it legal. I'll give them credit for that. In fact, I think it's something like this that has spawned the big N's idea to include a downloadable history museum of sorts on their Revolution console.
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Old 06-17-2005, 06:18 PM   #38
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>Do youreally think someone who's making fun of you feels like being nice at the moment? Don't you think they KNOW they're not being nice?

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Old 10-07-2005, 11:51 PM   #39
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> Blockbuster seems to get away with it.
>

Evidently you're either unaware or (going by the dictionary here) ignorant of the fact that Blockbuster pays a substantial fee for games, above and beyond the MSRP. This is known as a "rental fee".

You don't know much, that's okay, you're the head of zophar, so it means you're not gay. Just letting you know in a tiresome way that your coyness in this thread made me want to go lay an egg. Now I'll go eat smeg.

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Old 10-08-2005, 02:20 AM   #40
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It's good thing this is not GameFAQs isn't it then, eh?<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by The 9th Sage on 10/07/05 10:20 PM.</FONT></P>
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