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Old 12-16-2004, 04:15 AM   #11
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> What's your point? Once there is a windows compiler
> available, only the developer will need the packeges and
> libraries.

thats http://wiki.tcl.tk/11861already possible</a> with tcl

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Old 12-16-2004, 06:02 AM   #12
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> I really want to develop a hacking tool for an nes game, the
> problem is I don't know what I need to learn and where to
> start.

If you have to ask this question, I don't anticipate you having great sucess.

Any kind of tool for hacking will require you to do a lot of investigateive work ony our own,a nd you'll need to invent your own methods to do this. Every game is a different challenge. Unless someone already did the one you're planning to, you're on your own.

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Old 12-16-2004, 12:08 PM   #13
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Quote me saying that PHP is better than Tcl. I said that PHP was a great programming langauge and some people find it useful for rom hacking. There is really no point of your childish replies that are nothing but "nuh uh! This can do this! can PHP do that?" <img src=smilies/upeyes.gif>

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Old 12-16-2004, 06:02 PM   #14
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> Quote me saying that PHP is better than Tcl. I said that PHP
> was a great programming langauge and some people find it
> useful for rom hacking. There is really no point of your
> childish replies that are nothing but "nuh uh! This can do
> this! can PHP do that?"

I can't believe you both are arguing about which is better, TCL or PHP. Neither of them are really designed for making ROM editors with, which is kind of what this thread is about. <img src=smilies/upeyes.gif>

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Old 12-16-2004, 08:57 PM   #15
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> I can't believe you both are arguing about which is better,
> TCL or PHP. Neither of them are really designed for making
> ROM editors with, which is kind of what this thread is
> about.

I would have to agree that TCL and PHP are not designed for that reason. I think Visual Basic would be the easiest solution for someone who is starting out in computer programming. C/C++ would be ideal though since it isn't to low level like assembly and there is major support for the languages and many examples of open source code to take a look at to get ideas and use. The problem with VB is most other languages like perl, php, java, i think phython, etc that are the main commercial programming languages in use today are programmed in kind of a different way and you will learn bad programming habits by using vb (even vb.net imo but i don't not quite confident on that since I haven't done much with the language). PHP is designed for web programming therefore it would be a bitch to construct the GUI for the rom hacking editor to make it flexable and pretty. TCL don't ask me I don't know much about it.

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Old 12-17-2004, 04:06 AM   #16
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> Quote me saying that PHP is better than Tcl.

quote me saying you said that


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Old 12-17-2004, 04:09 AM   #17
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> I can't believe you both are arguing about which is better,
> TCL or PHP. Neither of them are really designed for making
> ROM editors with, which is kind of what this thread is
> about.

no langauge is generally designed for rom hacking (or for binary manipulation in general). i may be wrong but as i know c was designed to be a general purpose language?

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Old 12-17-2004, 04:23 AM   #18
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> TCL don't
> ask me I don't know much about it.
http://www.tcl.tk/scripting/primer.html

tcl is (can be) simple, clean and extensible.

activestate provides some great documentation on it: http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/docs/ActiveTcl

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Old 12-17-2004, 09:39 AM   #19
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Hi,

I guess I'm want to write a tool as well. I haven't done too much research on this, so I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction. I want to translate a game from Japanese. I understand this is a lot of work, however I want to translate a very small SNES fighting game, so it shouldn't be terribly hard. Right?
Anyway, I have ample programming experience with C/C++, Java, Python, etc... Although, my ASM knowledge is very limited.
Any resources I should look at first? Suggestions?

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Old 12-17-2004, 12:03 PM   #20
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> quote me saying you said that
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I was saying why PHP is good, and out of nowhere you started arguing that TCL was better.

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