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Old 08-15-2004, 02:59 AM   #51
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> You're just stating the obvious, though. I think his point
> was that sensitivity was the area in which we were most
> lacking.

True. Did you see the daily show thrusday? They had Kerrys sensitive comment, followed by Cheneys comment, followed by Bush saying in an earlier function that they had to be more "sensitive" in fighting terrorism. It was pretty damn funny actually.

Still, I think terrorism against the US is here to stay. It wont go away until the people doing the terrorist acts focus their anger at their own leaders.

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Old 08-15-2004, 04:45 AM   #52
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> Yeah, just the whole world outside of the Republican party
> and conservative Christians.

Because all Democrats, liberals and those who decide against religion hate America <img src=smilies/upeyes.gif>, I certainly don't believe this-- it's ignorant of you to say this.

America is the greatest country on Earth. The jealousy of others can be a dangerous thing.

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Old 08-15-2004, 05:50 AM   #53
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> America is the greatest country on Earth. The jealousy of
> others can be a dangerous thing.

Not as bad as arrogance.

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Old 08-15-2004, 01:16 PM   #54
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> Not as bad as arrogance.

Honest confidence.


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Old 08-15-2004, 05:36 PM   #55
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It wasn't aimed at Bush Jr. It wasn't even really aimed at his father, who was president during the time I was referring to. In case you're not aware, when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait, Osama bin Laden was far more pissed off about it than we were. In fact, he was fully prepared to take his army to war to eliminate Kuwait. Then Bush Sr. and his buddies asked Saudi Arabia to prevent him from doing so in order to allow the US to wage the war instead. By all accounts, however, what truly turned Osama against the US was the way the American military handled themselves in the Muslim holy lands, generally disrespecting the culture as a whole. No president was responsible for this, but neither did they once attempt to amend it, either.

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Old 08-15-2004, 05:37 PM   #56
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> Honest confidence.

Willed ignorance.


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Old 08-15-2004, 05:52 PM   #57
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> You've invented mistakes to reason for the terrorists.

No, I'm pretty sure the American military "invented" those mistakes when they made them.

> The 3000 people who died in the world trade center were at
> fault? The men women and children in those airplanes did
> something to piss off the terrorists? Are you this really
> this far gone?

They were just as deserving as all of the innocent Iraqi citizens that the US military has murdered in the last year and a half. Or the 500,000+ Iraqi children who were killed by the UN.

> Wrong. He perceives us as an enemy of his extremist cult and
> seeks to see our country destroyed at all costs. There are
> no terms, turtle-- they want you and I dead.

If Osama bin Laden is so truly evil and wants every single non-Muslim dead, please explain how it is that he's often been interviewed by non-Muslim reporters and they weren't killed? He certainly doesn't NEED them to get his beliefs out, he does that all the time via his own video taped interviews and Aljazeera. If he truly wanted every single non-Muslim dead, surely he'd have killed some of this Christian journalists that sat directly next to him on his own territory. But I'm sure you'll have some sort of conspiracy theory with which to explain this, it couldn't possibly be that the American media & government have lied about bin Laden's beliefs.

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Old 08-15-2004, 06:13 PM   #58
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> America is the greatest country on Earth.

For the greatest country on earth, we sure have a lot of homeless people. We sure have a lot of people who die because they can't afford health care. We sure kill a lot of innocent civilians just because we don't like their government. But hey, we have the best rock & roll in the world! We have the largest pornography industry in the world! We even have a better version of football! By God, if you think that a country isn't great just because a large percentage of it's population lives in poverty, you just don't understand greatness!

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Old 08-15-2004, 06:20 PM   #59
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> > Honest confidence.
>
> Willed ignorance.

...Gross negligence?
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Old 08-15-2004, 06:48 PM   #60
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For the greatest country on earth, we sure have a lot of homeless people. We sure have a lot of people who die because they can't afford health care. We sure kill a lot of innocent civilians just because we don't like their government. But hey, we have the best rock & roll in the world! We have the largest pornography industry in the world! We even have a better version of football! By God, if you think that a country isn't great just because a large percentage of it's population lives in poverty, you just don't understand greatness!

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We also provide more assistance to countries in need than any other. We've continued to protect this world and the people in it when called, and the people in America live damn good lives of incredible opportunity. I challenge you to name a greater nation. No country has accumulated more power more quickly and abused it less, and that's a fact.

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