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Old 06-03-2005, 04:15 AM   #11
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> The problem is your screen will take on a very sunken look.
> You will not success at mounting a TV in its casing unless
> you either build a wooden platform for it that supports its
> weight, but you will also need something to support it fromt
> he back. Moreover, unless you open up the back side of the
> casing and bolt it down from within, the thing will roll if you move your machine.

Unless I were to make the cabinet 2 seperate pieces to be bolted on when at it's destination. I could make a good base and a then a good top section with the television. I'm just leary of getting electrocuted...as I've been electrocuted 3 times already (once by lightning through phone wire)...

> It's practical if you're just cloning that shitty old
> "arcade cab" nintendo sold in the 80s. You know, the one
> that you just set a TV in on the the wooden shelf and
> plugged the joypad into the nes console. Not very authentic.

I'd like to have it as close to a real arcade machine just without all that graphics on the side/front. But the difference is I want mine to have a real sharp picture and killer audio. I'm planning on adding 2 built-in subs with 4 6½ car audio speakers in the cabinet. = )

> The method I described is your best bet for making something
> solid enough to take a beating and handle relocation, and
> have a screen authenticly risen like the actual arcades. My
> only regret is I should have set the whole board into the machine deeper than I did. I didn't account for the protrusion of curvature of the glass.

I guess in the end I could try the method you described...I'll just need graphic or extensive details...yea I'm paranoid.

> I would say 19" - 20" but not an inch more, unless you're
> building one of those 40" monsters here the controls are on
> a pedastal 3 feet away from the screen (see the initial
> Marvel vs Capcom 2 or DOA2 machines).

25" or 27" too large? What about a good quality Samsung 19" LCD with the 8ms response and awsome contrast ratio? Or a 21" LCD. Yea it's not traditional...but would it work?

> If your card supports TV-out, I would seriously recommend a
> regular television.

I wonder what the best card would be? Something with higher resolution S-Video?

> They are absolutely dirt cheap at this point too. My TV
> barely cost me more than one of my joysticks. In the event
> of repair, it will also be easier to find a hack television
> repairman to come visit your cabinet on-site instead of a
> CRT specialist.

19"/20" TVs are dirt cheap...especially when you can get one at BestBuy with an employee's discount for real cheap.

> Also, I heard something about how Swampgas may be changing
> forum software? If this is correct maybe you should save a
> local copy of the thread. You never know when it might
> vanish.

Already done. <img src=smilies/thumb.gif>
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Old 06-05-2005, 09:45 PM   #12
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> In my case, I really don't want to mess with taking a
> television apart. I was thinking of using straps bolted to
> the inside of the cabinet to secure the television in
> place... Do you think this won't work at all?

That depends. How long do you expect the TV to stay in place before the straps tear letting it crash into the bottom of the cabinet smashing apart your computer?
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Old 06-05-2005, 10:01 PM   #13
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> Unless I were to make the cabinet 2 seperate pieces to be
> bolted on when at it's destination. I could make a good
> base and a then a good top section with the television. I'm
> just leary of getting electrocuted...as I've been
> electrocuted 3 times already (once by lightning through
> phone wire)...

Take it from a veteran (9 times electrocuted by the 240V make table in a Pizza Hut in 1997, 6 times out of 120V North American wall current working on Playstations and Saturns in 99 - 2001, and being the human ground for a power surge once in 98) as long as you let it sit for a long time, the danger will be very very very minimal. Use better judgement than me and you should be fine. The arcade cabinet has been one of the only things NOT to electrocute me.

> I'd like to have it as close to a real arcade machine just
> without all that graphics on the side/front. But the
> difference is I want mine to have a real sharp picture and
> killer audio. I'm planning on adding 2 built-in subs with 4
> 6½ car audio speakers in the cabinet. = )

Again, you say crisp graphics, but they were never designed for that. It will be incredibly pixellated and blocky when you play. The older the game the worse it will get. These graphics were designed for the effect of true TV scanlines running at a 3:4 (or in some cases, arcade res). It's not something you can emulate either. A few games will look killer, a lot will look hideous.

> I guess in the end I could try the method you
> described...I'll just need graphic or extensive
> details...yea I'm paranoid.

I guess I could try to draw something up at a later date. Keep in mind I know nothing about drafting so it won't be much more than an MS Paint sketch if you really want it.

> 25" or 27" too large? What about a good quality Samsung 19"
> LCD with the 8ms response and awsome contrast ratio? Or a
> 21" LCD. Yea it's not traditional...but would it work?

I told you already, nothing more than 20". Even 21" is seriously pushing it. The screen will be so god damn huge when it's a foot from your face that with a 27", you'd never even see things coming at you in a shooter. People seem to have a tendancy to want gigantic cars and TVs but this is a case where good-judgement needs to override capitalist training. You want to be able to easily see the whole screen at about 1' - 2' feet from your face without your Boba Fett 360 degree-vision helmet on. You don't want to be playing Asteroids or Salamander 2 and shout, "Holy shit! Where did that come from?" because your ship takes up half your field of view blocking you from seeing anything coming at you.

There's a reason arcade screens are the size they are.

Go to an arcade with a measuring tape, measure their screen diagonals, and measure how far from your eyeballs when at the controls that screen is. The larger the screen, the deeper your cabinet needs to be and the further in you need to set the screen (which really defeats the whole purpose of a huge tube and a moveable, freestanding game machine ...)

> I wonder what the best card would be? Something with higher
> resolution S-Video?

It's really your call. Composite is what i use. S-Video should be fine. I doubt you need RGB, unless you're a robot or have a vivid imagination there's no noticeable difference on a 21" or smaller television. Maybe on a 45" or higher, but not in your range.

> 19"/20" TVs are dirt cheap...especially when you can get one
> at BestBuy with an employee's discount for real cheap.

I wouldn't guess it will cost you more than $60 for a brand new one made in the last few years.

I wonder, does America have Hai'er brand yet? I imagine those would be ULTRA-cheap bu still pretty good quality. (I love Chinese electronics)
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Old 06-05-2005, 11:19 PM   #14
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> That depends. How long do you expect the TV to stay in place
> before the straps tear letting it crash into the bottom of
> the cabinet smashing apart your computer?

I was planning on a shelf inside the cabinet for the TV to rest on, and take the TV out when it needs to be moved.
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Old 06-06-2005, 01:50 AM   #15
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Good idea. I blew up my joystick port once trying to wire a light to it. >.<
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Old 06-06-2005, 01:56 AM   #16
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> I was planning on a shelf inside the cabinet for the TV to
> rest on, and take the TV out when it needs to be moved.

I honestly can't reccommend it. The end result is not going to look very nice. But it's your cabinet so if that's how you want to do it, it's your business.
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Old 06-06-2005, 02:09 AM   #17
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>9 times electrocuted by the 240V
> make table in a Pizza Hut in 1997

Funny when I worked there ours did the same shit. Not to me but to the last cook. Touch the make table and then the oven and zzzzzzzzzzzzzit!!! Wow. Tricon is truly cheap ass basturds. I am glad I walked out. Fuck them.<img src=smilies/angryfire.gif> Did I mention that I hate them?
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Old 06-06-2005, 02:52 AM   #18
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> Funny when I worked there ours did the same shit. Not to me
> but to the last cook. Touch the make table and then the
> oven and zzzzzzzzzzzzzit!!! Wow. Tricon is truly cheap ass
> basturds. I am glad I walked out. Fuck them. Did I
> mention that I hate them?

Yeah, the worst was you'd put your hand on the table while you bent down to get dough out from the doors beneath. As soon as yout ouched the handle ... ZAP!
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Old 06-06-2005, 02:58 AM   #19
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Not to mention I have cut my self on those things all the time. Could they make the edges any sharper?
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Old 06-06-2005, 03:23 AM   #20
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has anyone tried making a cabinet with any guns? ive heard of some usb ones working with mame, although nothing about Linux.

its not like i have the money or woodworking skills to make a cabinet, but im just curious about it.
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