Hardest games youve ever played

[strizzuth]

Originally Posted by Rattlehead

But, still...there's more "International Versions" for games than just FFXII, right?

If I remember correctly, almost every Final Fantasy game released since 7 (and including 7) has an international version that includes some or all of the changes made for the US version then adds even more changes.

Originally Posted by Triggs

yes the japanese believe that we cant handle some of there games they deem too hard. there are instances where theyve released an easier version of a game in the states than they released over there. im not sure but i think its more geared toward rpgs. my brother was doin research into that subject.

That's true sometimes. For example, one of my favorite games, Act Raiser, was made significantly easier for the US version. However, other times the game is made harder for its US release. Sometimes the game just gets other changes to the point where it's hardly recognizable. It's not so much some sort of xenophobic belief on the part of the Japanese developers that Americans won't be able to handle hard games as it is the US office's belief that the difficulty needs to be changed to ensure better sales.

If you want to play a game that's hard for all the right reasons (no cheap deaths) play Alundra sometime. If the ice block puzzle doesn't make you want to fling a controller across the room, you're a better gamer than I.

[Fla Flash]

Originally Posted by The 9th Sage

Oh no, I know. I've seen that cited as the reason the 'proper' SMB 2 never came out in the US. I just think we would have been able to survive somehow. lol

Yah. No duh on that one.

[Fla Flash]

I don't care for games that go out of their way to be exceedingly hard. I don't like those that are too easy, either, though.
I bought Wind Waker for the Gamecube when it first came out and didn't start playing it until a few weeks ago. It's got the right combination, and I'm enjoying it big time.
On a similar note, please don't make fun, but I had a hell of a time with Sonic Heroes.
That could just be my reflexes diminishing with age.

[chiefmonkey]

Originally Posted by Fla Flash

That could just be my reflexes diminishing with age.

Well your reflexes must be dimished like a motherfucker, you old fart.

(this is mark, btw)

[Fla Flash]

Originally Posted by White Light Brown

Well your reflexes must be dimished like a motherfucker, you old fart.

(this is mark, btw)

Ha. I'll whip your *ss in Tiger Woods golf. Heh.
Nice ta see ya!

[Reaper man]

Originally Posted by Fla Flash

Ha. I'll whip your *ss in Tiger Woods golf. Heh.
Nice ta see ya!

uhm, you do realize you can swear here, right?

[Fla Flash]

Originally Posted by Reaper man

uhm, you do realize you can swear here, right?

Uh, sorry. Force of habit. I'll try to be more profane in the future.

[Isildur]

Originally Posted by Fla Flash

Uh, sorry. Force of habit. I'll try to be more profane in the future.

Damn straight!

[SpaceTiger]

Originally Posted by i-come-in-3d

THE HARDEST THING I HAVE EVER PLAYED AS THERE SO MANY SIDE MISSIONS YA DNT KNOW WHERE 2 GO IS OBLIVION ON XBOX 360 IT MAKES ME SICK

Oblivion can be challenging, but I don't understand what you mean by this. The active missions are listed in your quest book and they usually explain exactly what you need to do. The missions for the main quest, in particular, are usually pretty unambiguous. I got confused by a few side missions (and some are even buggy), but they're not required to finish the game.

[Haoie]

I'm going to add Brahma Force [PS1] to the list.

Very obscure, but maybe someone besides me will have tried it/own it.