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Old 07-18-2004, 10:30 PM   #11
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Default ...and now I'm stepping in

> Just incase you didn't read our official statements that
> "do" represent EmuFanatics .. here they are again.

Official statements? Oooh boy.

I've been in this "scene" for quite some time and have seen (and been a part of) bigger "scandals". In the end, this is what matters: NOTHING.

It's EMULATION. It's for FUN. Official statements?? What's up with that?

Dude...I don't know if there's some anti-zd trend happening or something....I don't even know what a Cassini is...but when it comes down to it, the emulation sites need to COOPERATE like they did back in 1997 or else emulation will continue on this horrible downward spiral. It isn't emufanatics official statements versus zd official statements. It's about sharing info and getting along so the people who just want to play games don't get confused.

It's very easy to see why I'm not actively participating in things anymore....this is a prime example of how things have become. Great programming feat, yes. Sites arguing back and forth on the front page, no. <img src=smilies/headshake.gif>

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Old 07-18-2004, 11:05 PM   #12
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Default Re: emufanatics.com | What's with these guys?

I have made it very clear on the front page that Zophar's Domain neither supports nor condemns it. We try to stay out of politics (although that fails sometimes, as in this case) :P

As far as EmuFanatics.com...it's a great site and Keith is a friend of ours and supports us, and we support him. The users on EF don't seem to like ZD very much though, but to be honest, one has to remember that there's a lot of people who are against us.

But I am SICK and TIRED of people saying we support it. Feel free to quote me :P

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Old 07-18-2004, 11:10 PM   #13
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Default Re: emufanatics.com | What's with these guys?

I posted your letter on the front page. Since your statements are "against" Cassini moreso than the other posts, hopefully people will realize the stance of neutrality we take. Thank you very much for your input...the only things I know about the controversy are from people who tell me and point me to the right areas where discussion is going on. I have other more important things to do than study all sides of an issue that we have nothing to do with ;P

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Old 07-18-2004, 11:12 PM   #14
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The only other emu websites that we have good relationships with are EmuFanatics and Emulation9. We can count Eidolons-Inn as well, but it's not really an emu site. But I'm with you Swamp...all emu sites need to help, not hurt each other. It sounds sappy and obvious, but I'll be damned if it rarely happens.

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Old 07-18-2004, 11:44 PM   #15
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Heh, you have the whole thing completely wrong. My post on EF has nothing to do with ZD or any one site. It is just a summary of what we have been saying all along and how we feel. If other sites feel the same way then that is fine and if not then that is fine too. We are not telling others how to deal with this debate .. we didn't even bring it here to ZD.

As for "official" that is just official as in from "me" .. repesenting my own site. I used the word to seperate it from any other comments that have been made on our forums or by people that are a part of my community.

My comments have nothing to do with ZD, have never had anything to do with ZD, and like I said we didn't bring this here or even mention it here.

Also you would be hard pressed to find a kinder site then EF that "does" cooperate with all sites. We hold no grudges and we get a long with everyone. Maybe you haven't noticed us, maybe you don't pay attention to the scene anymore. I really don't know, but I can assure you we are not anti ZD or whatever you guys call it here.

We are all about having fun, but at the same time we will stick up for what we think is right. We kept our comments to our own community and we can not stop others from bringing it to other places .. when someone says we are "assholes" I feel that we should atleast try and tell our side of it in a civil manner and I believe I have done that.

It is the missinformation and the assumptions that cause people to think there is some sort of anti ZD thing going on. When in fact there is not. People are entitled to their opinions and if they are not fans of ZD then that is their choice. I am not going to censor them out and if you wish to correct their thoughts then feel free to tell them.

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Old 07-19-2004, 12:30 AM   #16
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Well said. Again, there's nothing you can do about your website's users. And you're doing the right thing by not censoring them.


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Old 07-19-2004, 02:26 AM   #17
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> The only other emu websites that we have good relationships
> with are EmuFanatics and Emulation9. We can count
> Eidolons-Inn as well, but it's not really an emu site. But
> I'm with you Swamp...all emu sites need to help, not hurt
> each other. It sounds sappy and obvious, but I'll be damned
> if it rarely happens.

Well there's just so many factors against it. I won't even site the amount of websites I've encountered that apparently exist only to be anti this site, or anti that site, or take quotes from emu site administrators and take them totally wrong, hack people's sites to get themselves off, etc etc...

It's like they want the emulation community to die or something.


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Old 07-19-2004, 02:27 AM   #18
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> when someone says we are "assholes" I
> feel that we should atleast try and tell our side of it in a
> civil manner and I believe I have done that.

"WTF? Are these dudes assholes or what?"

Looks like a question to me, not a direct comment.


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