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Old 11-18-2005, 06:27 AM   #11
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Default Re: What the hell is a damn "furry"?

> Since that ludacris topic in ROM Hack is the first time I've
> ever heard of it. So, indulge me.

A group of people that likes anthropomorphic animals. That's in general.

About, oh, 0.5% of them like fucking animals, plush dolls, get off to bestiality, and such other stuff. Yet, they're the ones that get noticed the most. (Yes, this is just echoing Moogle's point.)

A story: About five or six years ago, when I first started using the internet, I decided to use Tails (from Sonic) as my avatar, because I liked the character. I used the nick I still use today because I once heard the word Kitsune on a TV show, and it was just coincidence that Tails was a fox. So anyway, a while later I got into romhacking and started frequenting some channel I don't remember right now. And there's one guy there that starts calling -me- a furry. I'm confused as hell, not even knowing what the fuck he was talking about. I was just some guy who had Tails as his avatar. (and well, back then, I was more prone to using emoticons and stuff like /Me pounces [person].) Later on he starts saying that I'm not a real furry. And it just confuses me more. So I ignore the guy, and the channel implodes a few months later, and stuff happened so I just forgot about it.

MUCH later, I go to a webcomic's forum (said forum changed dramatically two years ago, and I left) and I stumble upon two other people who had fox avatars. They talk to me, and end up being furries, and from what they told me, I realized that, hell, I'm a furry too. Just not even remotely as hardcore as some other people I know.

As I say to other people, I don't believe I'm a fox. I don't think I have the soul of a fox. I don't have paws, I have hands and feet. I don't have phantom appendages, though I have worn ears and a tail for Halloween in the past. I -have- been told that I act like a fox, for being sneaky and stuff. I don't have a fursona. I'm just me. There is no "Kitsune Sniper" somewhere in another dimension. I'm Kitsune Sniper, the fox is just a reflection of an aspect of myself. While I don't have a fursona, people have drawn what could be considered one for me.

One of the reasons why I don't frequent furry places, well, you just saw it. That thread over at romhack. Drama. Hoo boy.

But yeah. Sleep. Stuff. Bye.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:39 AM   #12
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> Since that ludacris topic in ROM Hack is the first time I've
> ever heard of it. So, indulge me.

Google for "yiff."
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Old 11-18-2005, 07:28 AM   #13
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Default Re: What the hell is a damn "furry"?

Well, it's a bit complicated as you can see from the other responses. This is cause by the fact that it has multiple meanings.
Furry:

1) An Anthropomorphic art style in which animals are given human body stance, such as the cast of Star Fox. However does not include Nekomimi, your typical catgirl, or other similar style, which is giving animal characteristics to humans.

2) A Fan of Anthropomorphic art.

3) A persons who likes to dress up as an animal, possibly as sexual fetish, may even go so far as to mod their body to look animalistic. Also known as Fur Suitors.

4) A person who likes to have sex with stuffed animals. Incorrect terminology; this is actually known as Plussies not Furries though it is still related.

5) Sexual related Anthropomorphic art, odd that it's separated I know, but it seem some people group all furry art as some deviant sexual thing and can't see that some furry fans could have no interest in the sexual aspects.

6) Yiff art, a particular art form that involves using anthropomorphic art in weird sexual variants of Yaoi, Futanari, Bodymod, BreastExpansion, & other odd sub genre or manga art.

7) Bestiality art or practices, not quite accurate either though sometimes it seems a horse on two legs is enough to call it a furry horse which explains the connection.

Notes:
Yaoi = Male on Male sexual art.
Futanari = Dickgirl, Shemales or variants in between one sex.
Bodymod = Body modification art, can include oversized genitals, multiple breast, lack of limbs, genitals in place of limbs, humanoids modded into every day objects, ect.
Breast Expansion = Self explanatory
Some people make idiotic differentiations between Furry and furry, which might help in some cases if one could ever remember which was sposed to be which.
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Old 11-21-2005, 06:26 PM   #14
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*Reads*

I guess I'm a furry, then. I love anthro art.
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Old 11-21-2005, 06:47 PM   #15
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> Well, it's a bit complicated as you can see from the other
> responses. This is cause by the fact that it has multiple
> meanings.

Sooo...if you don't mind an occasional 'regular' anime cat girl you aren't a furry, but if this cat girl ends up getting more animal feature it makes you a furry?

I mean, I see what you're saying from the humans with animal features and animals with human features thing, but when does it cross over from one to the other? This is very confusing. :P
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Old 11-21-2005, 07:14 PM   #16
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> Sooo...if you don't mind an occasional 'regular' anime cat
> girl you aren't a furry, but if this cat girl ends up
> getting more animal feature it makes you a furry?

It's weird. Some people -can- like the art style, yet not be a fur. I mean, c'mon, all those Bugs Bunny fans are NOT furries, you know?
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Old 11-22-2005, 04:58 AM   #17
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> I mean, I see what you're saying from the humans with animal
> features and animals with human features thing, but when
> does it cross over from one to the other? This is very confusing. :P

Well It can be hard some times. Cat are kind of a poor furry example just for fact that their facial set up is very similar human wise, meaning it takes little to make it look human like. This is also why I refuse to believe it's possable to ever make a true furry monkey man, because all primates out side of maybe certain lemurs are pretty much humaniod already.
However It seems to be something like this, Katt from Breath of Fire 2 isn't furry while DNA altered Catwoman from that episode of Batman the animated series was. There are ocationaly odd examples of things that aren't considered furry although one would think they should be, like the Samurai Pizza Cats for example. The best indicated seems to be first does your character have fur(scales/feathers for non-mammles) if so does it have a muzzles if yes to both it's a furry. So yes Lizalfos and Wolfos from Zelda are technicle furries, although monsters from non-furry series are usually exempt under defintions of what is a true furry. Which ofcourse leads odditys like Breath of Fire castmembers or all Manabe manga like Outlanders that happen to sport are cross set of furry and non-furry characters, though one may note female character are are rarely furry in these cases.

Although one might also note that the majority of furry art is infact toonie-manga hybrid in which it's clear that the artist started out from a western style perspective. This fact can be a quick gage on weather it's furry or not also.
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Old 11-22-2005, 05:25 PM   #18
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Default The Furry Fandom

I guess it's my turn to try and defend us...

Okay, for all of you bashing the Furry Fandom thinking it's only about cocks and gays and sex and spooge and everything else that could conceivably be defined as perverted, let me set you straight by simply stating that you are closed-minded and need to do your homework before jumping on the bandwagon and bashing something you clearly have yet to fully understand.

In case you haven't already figured it out, I am one of those Furries and have no qualms whatsoever in saying so.

It's difficult to set an exact date as to when it started, but a set date when it got big and more popular would be the early 1980's. The Furry Fandom is one of those things that 99.99% of the world's population will point and laugh at when not properly educated, so the invention of the internet was one of the more efficient ways we could find each other, and not prancing about the streets singing "I'm a wolfie" as that would likely get us a cap in the ass.

Depending who you ask about it, many Furries will define the Fandom in an infinite number of different ways. One such definition is the belief that the person is not truly human, at least in spirit. Another one states that they simply enjoy seeing animals with human traits, like thought, speech, and the ability to walk upright. Disney's 'Robin Hood' is one of the more popular examples of this, as well as "The Secret of NIMH". Anthropomorphic animals are everywhere in our world, and there's really no way around that. We've got a rabbit dropping anvils on a duck, we put a tiger in our tank, another tiger telling us to eat a cereal because it's "Grrrrreeat!", and our political races are represented by an elephant and a donkey. It's a part of life whether you've noticed it or not. (Note: None of these references are original, they’re taken from many other resources) This isn’t to say that everyone’s a furry (boy is THAT impossible), this is just to say that some of us appreciate this more than others.

The Fursuiters are no different. They just happen to either have the talent to make or the money to acquire a likeness of any given character or animal because they enjoy portraying them. You see them in parades, children's amusement parks entertaining and interacting with kids, at sports games as a mascot, or sometimes just walking down the street... just because. It's a hobby that makes them happy and many of them will fight tooth and claw defending it. Not all macsoters are Furries, but it’s a good chunk.

Every collection of hobby enthusiasts is going to have its pros and cons, and it's simply human nature to focus on the bad side of things. It gets a bigger rise out of people. Don't focus on sex either, because everything in life has that, and it's unfair to hold that .001% against an entire group when everything in the world is based around it. There must be about 200,000 Furries in the world, possibly way more, but many can't state it because they'll be told they're 'weird'.

Granted, a decent chunk of the Fandom's art is erotic. Hey. It sells. It's about 2% of all the porn on the internet. I don't see large throes of people trying to bring down 'Playboy.' If we were so bad, don't you think we'd be illegal by now?
Just because someone fucks a dog out in the woods doesn't make them a furry. They just might like fucking dogs. Ever think about that? Please don't associate us with those people.

Furry is a hobby and belief like any other. Some supporters, some against.

Before some of you go and trash something that you may not be up-to-speed on, I suggest a little research into it first. If you read into it and still don't like us, then be my guest, go nuts. But don't come into an ass-kicking contest with only one leg or you're gonna fall.

[url]http://www.anthrocon.org/info.cgi/about#furry[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry_fandom[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otherkin[/url]
[url]http://furry.wikicities.com/wiki/WikiFur_Furry_Central[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fursuit[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry_lifestyler[/url]

If on the other hand you see something you like, we welcome you with open arms. We’re an extremely open community (which is one reason why many Furries seem to be gay, not all, mind you) and would gladly take the time to explain anything to you. We’ve done no wrong, hurt nobody, never caused a war or riot. Just fun-loving people who sometimes wish they were an animal for a short period time.

If you actually made it down this far and aren’t currently quivering with insatiable rage, then I’ve done my part.

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Old 11-22-2005, 07:31 PM   #19
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Frankly, my post summed up yours much more concisely and four days earlier, having come from a furry who hasn't been in the fandom terribly long, but four years is longer than a lot of them.
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Old 11-23-2005, 01:41 AM   #20
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I have nothing against people who love nimals to death, like most "furries", but when it becomes sexual, you really need to expand on your dating choices...
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