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Old 07-21-2004, 10:04 PM   #1
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Default Sandy Berger's "honest mistake"

<a target="_blank" href=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,126397,00.html>Sandy Berger (search)
said he made "an honest mistake" but Republicans aren't completely buying that
explanation.</a>

This particular line gets me;
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But the GOP says the whole snafu raises questions about whether Berger
tried to hide embarrassing materials, since he was reportedly seen stuffing
documents down his pants, shirt and in his socks.

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He didn't have a notebook? I can't believe the number of people that aren't
finding this whole thing suspicious, they're spinning the issue totally to the timing
of the leak, as opposed to the actual situation itself. Now whether timing was
used as a political tool or not is certainly a question, but while many
conservatives have been completely ignoring this question-- the liberals are
obsessing over it, ignoring what they should be equally as worried about.

Clinton has come out and noted that 'Berger has always been sloppy', in fact,
this use of the word "sloppy" is becoming strangely repetitive. ....Clinton even
laughed about it-- as to think a high official in his administration could be "sloppy"
with top secret documents, and it could be humorous!

I think there are a lot of questions that need to be answered here, but the liberals
are making it seem like nobody has a right to ask them. I think answers to these
questions is more than acceptable here.

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Old 07-21-2004, 10:09 PM   #2
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hmm...this feels very backroomish to me

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Old 07-21-2004, 11:03 PM   #3
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> hmm...this feels very backroomish to me

erm... it was most certainly meant for the backroom. That'd be great if a mod could please move it for me
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Old 07-22-2004, 02:05 AM   #4
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> > hmm...this feels very backroomish to me
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> erm... it was most certainly meant for the backroom. That'd
> be great if a mod could please move it for me

Done <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

On topic, I don't know if Berger had nefarious intent or not. However, there's no excuse for "accidentally" removing classified documents.

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Old 07-22-2004, 02:33 AM   #5
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> erm... it was most certainly meant for the backroom.

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Old 07-22-2004, 08:00 AM   #6
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Old 07-22-2004, 03:46 PM   #7
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> I think there are a lot of questions that need to be
> answered here, but the liberals
> are making it seem like nobody has a right to ask them.

Okay Danoz, you got a war in Iraq full of casualties. There are reports that the newly installed "leader" is personally executing people. You have no Weapons of Mass Destruction. No Nukes, no biological weapons, no nothing.

You have your militairy violating the Geneva convention and torturing people. You have terrorists multiplying much faster than rabbits. YOu have people held as "enemy combatants" with no rights. This against your own constitution in prisons.

Your leaders have cut taxes and gone to war. In doing so they have turned a cash surplus into record deficits.

Hmm, what else. There are groups of scientists upset with your glorious leaders for making politics part of science.

You have a person whose boss threaten to fire him if he told the true cost of Bush's drug plan to congress. Where is the boss now? He is a lobbiest for the drug firms.

You have the awarding of a multibillion dollar untendered contract to Halliburton. The vice president just happens to be the former CEO.

Your worried about missing papers????????? I am sorry, this whole issue stinks of GOP misdirection from their record. The only reason this issue is present is so that the Kerry campaign can be tainted with scandal.

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Old 07-22-2004, 05:25 PM   #8
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Good catch Lobster..
*turns just in time to see Danoz trying to stuff TOTT in his socks*

Hey! Put that down!

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Old 07-22-2004, 06:30 PM   #9
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> Sandy Berger (search)
> said he made "an honest mistake" but Republicans aren't
> completely buying that
> explanation.

Since you love FoxNews so much....I think its time for a THREAD JACK!

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(Yeah yeah yeah...I know, this has nothing to do with anything, but I still found it interesting, if not a bit funny)

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Old 07-23-2004, 01:33 AM   #10
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Let me begin by saying that pointing out that this post is fairly hypocritical. You accuse Republicans of misdirection, but this entire post is an entire distraction from the issue at hand-- a total misdirection. You're telling me that people can't and shouldn't ask questions because there's other things to worry about? Let me tell you, there are always things to worry about... and I'd consider a fumbling of documents that could possibly pose a threat to our national security something to worry about-- especially at a time when we're fighting this war on terrorism.
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Okay Danoz, you got a war in Iraq full of casualties.

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Redundant. This is war, and in any and every war there are casualties.
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There are reports that the newly installed "leader" is personally executing people.

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What reports?
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You have no Weapons of Mass Destruction. No Nukes, no biological weapons, no nothing.

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You have significant evidence of a WMD program, and a regime that had a possibly of developing nuclear technology... not to mention many illegal, undeclared weapons. This is in response to your "no nothing" comment, as if we marched in looking for nukes and found candyland. This simply isn't the case.

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You have your militairy violating the Geneva convention and torturing people. You have terrorists multiplying much faster than rabbits. YOu have people held as "enemy combatants" with no rights. This against your own constitution in prisons. Your leaders have cut taxes and gone to war. In doing so they have turned a cash surplus into record deficits.

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Our Military hasn't tortured anyone. Let's also remember that in order to control something as broad as terrorism, people need to be "held". We cut taxes before anybody saw a war coming-- and it's safe to say the economy is on the rise now.

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Hmm, what else. There are groups of scientists upset with your glorious leaders for making politics part of science. You have a person whose boss threaten to fire him if he told the true cost of Bush's drug plan to congress. Where is the boss now? He is a lobbiest for the drug firms. You have the awarding of a multibillion dollar untendered contract to Halliburton. The vice president just happens to be the former CEO.
Your worried about missing papers????????? I am sorry, this whole issue stinks of GOP misdirection from their record. The only reason this issue is present is so that the Kerry campaign can be tainted with scandal.

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The irony! The hypocrisy! This whole post existed to shift the direction! I wanted to talk about Berger, and instead you make me respond to a load of quick, unrelated sentences with no connect at all. Now, instead of branching off into the fifteen other subjects you mentioned in this post (and getting off track this early in the game)-- let's try to stay with the subject matter. The only thing you did was call it "GOP misdirection" without reasoning.
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