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Blade556 03-31-2005 01:36 PM

Salvia - Hold onto your ass
 
This shit is crazy potent. If you can manage to take a whole bowl in one hit (Use a torch lighter and a hooka bong), it's a 5 minute acid trip. You can't talk, can't understand anyone, but the hallucinations are MESSED.

http://www.sagewisdom.org

This stuff is awesome. Just even a few small hits are like laughing gas (Makes you laugh at almost anything).

Anyone else tried it?

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Danoz 03-31-2005 02:07 PM

Re: Salvia - Hold onto your ass
 
umm... no, I haven't <img src=smilies/eek13.gif>. What's funny is that you're asking about it on a message board like it's a new flavor blow pop.

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Audigy 03-31-2005 02:28 PM

Re: Salvia - Hold onto your ass
 

> Anyone else tried it?
>
<img src=smilies/headshake.gif>

Is there a point someone reaches in his/her life where drugs aren't cool anymore? Isn't real life enough of a mindfuck without including braincell-killing hallucinogenics? (or however the hell that's spelled)

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JadussD 03-31-2005 04:05 PM

Re: Salvia - Hold onto your ass
 
> Is there a point someone reaches in his/her life where drugs
> aren't cool anymore? Isn't real life enough of a mindfuck
> without including braincell-killing hallucinogenics? (or
> however the hell that's spelled)

Why does everyone assume hallucinogens kill brain cells? Most of them do not. Simply because a chemical gets into the synapses in your brain does not mean that it destroys brain cells. There are two types of psychoactive drugs: those that mimic existing chemicals in your brain and thus alter consciousness by redirecting signals in your brain to different pathways, and those that release existing chemicals in the brain.

Those that mimic existing chemicals are less likely to be neuro-toxic. For instance, the active ingredient in mushrooms (psilocybin) has the scientific name of 4-Hydroxy-Dimethyltryptamine (4-HO-DMT), which is quite similar to 5-HTP (5-Hydroxy-tryptamine), otherwise known as seritonin, and is used in the same role as seritonin in the brain, its differences in chemical structure being responsible for its effects. Being quite chemically similar to seritonin, which does not destroy brain cells and plays an important role in consciousness, it stands to reason that it be likely to not cause damage either, especially in light of the fact that no commonly used drugs of the tryptamine class (Psilocybin, DMT, 5-MeO-DMT, LSD) have ever been shown to do so. In fact, DMT and 5-MeO-DMT are present in small amounts in human beings to begin with. It is also extremely hard to overdose and die from these substances, to the point where it is for all intents and purposes impossible.

Those drugs that stimulate the brain to release existing chemicals to cause their psychoactive effects are far more likely to cause brain damage. Cocaine, Amphetamines, Ecstacy can and do cause brain damage, there is no denying that. Ecstacy causes seritogenic cells to release seritonin, and if it overworks them, they die. Amphetamines do the same thing for dopamine, and Cocaine overworks both dopamine and seritogenic cells.

However, marijuana, tryptamines, and most other hallucinogens tend to do their work and then exit your body after they are metabolized. The drug Blade brought up, Salvia, is a rather recently discovered drug which is completely dissimilar to any psychedelic found yet , and thus its method of action is unknown, although overdose does appear impossible, and it should be noted that people in Mexico have been using it for thousands of years with no ill effects reported. Still, it is a risk that there might be long-term effects that are subtle or unknown.

As for why someone might enjoy psychedelics, it is difficult to explain to someone who has never taken them. On hallucinogens, it is possible to have emotions which do not exist normally and for which there is no word, it is possible to have a thought which would be impossible to have otherwise, it is possible to be two or more personalities at a time, and it is possible to see a color you have never seen before. Thus, to truly explain what psychedelics do and why one might like them would be impossible. This could be why people on psychedelics speak in tongues: there literally is no word for what they are experiencing, and they are trying to make ones up.

It is not for everyone, no doubt.

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Audigy 03-31-2005 04:19 PM

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Thank you for that expert analysis. <img src=smilies/eek5.gif>

I would still like to try LSD someday, but I'm going to need to be in a controlled environment with some trusted friends who aren't doing it too.

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Blade556 03-31-2005 09:22 PM

Re: Salvia - Hold onto your ass
 
Well, it kicks ass, thats why. And honestly, I figured some of you weren't total goody goody's and did that kind of thing.

But I don't smoke weed, and all I asked has anyone else tried it. I haven't met anyone (In canada) that hasn't.

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Gavin_86 03-31-2005 10:49 PM

Re: Salvia - Hold onto your ass
 
*Gavin raises his hand*

yessir, i've tried it before. I'd really like to try it again and in a greater and/or more potent amount as I didn't seem to get much out of it.. My friend (who had supplied it) said it usually knocks him on the floor laughing for about 15 minutes, and that's what i'm aiming for <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

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Fla Flash 03-31-2005 11:08 PM

Re: Salvia - Hold onto your ass
 
Look, there's no rule against talking about drugs (least that I've seen) but I'm so anti-drug I scare the DEA.
It's nice that you're describing the effects...but I can't say I care much for talking about drug abuse (in a positive way) on an Emulation message board.
Just my opinion.

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Diskeater 03-31-2005 11:13 PM

Re: Salvia - Hold onto your ass
 
> ...but I can't
> say I care much for talking about drug abuse (in a positive
> way) on an Emulation message board.
> Just my opinion.

How are the two related?


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Fla Flash 03-31-2005 11:24 PM

Re: Salvia - Hold onto your ass
 
<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr>

How are the two related?

<hr></blockquote>

Good question. I just think there are probably other forums for that. Don't mean to sound like an old man, but I've seen drugs destroy more good young lives than I care to remember.
Like I said, just my opinion.

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Diskeater 03-31-2005 11:41 PM

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Totally fine, and to be honest with you....I raised an eyebrow too. It does seem a little out of place, but people seem to be discussing it very rationally. Some of it is damn fascinating as well (JadussD, I'm looking at you!).

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MooglyGuy 04-01-2005 12:05 AM

LOL DOOD!!!!
 
I AM SO KEWL!! I TAKE TEH DURGS & THAT MAKES ME KEWL!!! DURGS R BETTAR TAHN N E TING ELSE, LIEK GETNIG A EDUCASHUN OR A JOB & NOT BENIG AN IRESSPONSABLE FUCK

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Kuikorosu 04-01-2005 12:14 AM

Re: Salvia - Hold onto your ass
 
> but I can't say I care much for talking about drug abuse (in a positive
> way) on an Emulation message board.

I'm going to have to agree. It seems rather out of place, and it's also asking for trouble in one way or another. You aren't saying "I smoke a bowl of grass now and again" (I don't, if you're wondering, but for example's sake), you're saying "Wow, check out this new hallucinogenic drug, it's great, here's links to more information, tell us about your experiences with it." The whole thing makes me uneasy.


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Kuikorosu 04-01-2005 12:16 AM

Re: Salvia - Hold onto your ass
 
> Well, it kicks ass, thats why. And honestly, I figured some of you
> weren't total goody goody's and did that kind of thing.

Or in layman's terms, "smart enough to realize that introducing foreign substances into our bodies that cause us to have strange and abnormal reactions is probably not a Good Thingâ„¢"


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Gavin_86 04-01-2005 02:03 AM

salvia divinorum is not illegal :P *nt*
 
nt = ninja turtles

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Gavin_86 04-01-2005 02:05 AM

Re: LOL DOOD!!!!
 
> I AM SO KEWL!! I TAKE TEH DURGS & THAT MAKES ME KEWL!!!
> DURGS R BETTAR TAHN N E TING ELSE, LIEK GETNIG A EDUCASHUN
> OR A JOB & NOT BENIG AN IRESSPONSABLE FUCK

anybody that takes drugs to be cool is a massive tool.

everbody that takes drugs does not do so to be cool.

savlia isn't hardcore.

you're gay.

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Redbomb 04-01-2005 02:10 AM

Re: Salvia - Hold onto your ass
 
>I figured some of you weren't total goody goody's and did that kind of thing.

Not doing drugs makes you a total goody goody?


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Gavin_86 04-01-2005 02:17 AM

Re: Salvia - Hold onto your ass
 
you're all retarded and wrong.

simply doing drugs doesn't make you retarded, not doing drugs doesn't make you a "goody". it's your attitude and how you let it effect your life that matters.

if doing drugs gets in the way of your life then yes, you're retarded, if it doesn't then no, you're not retarded. if i reach the goals i set for myself, live a sucessful like, then i'll be fucked if someone tells me i'm a bad person or less intelligent for smoking a joint. it's just like anything else in life, if you let it control you, if you let it substantially get in the way of your goals when it shouldn't, and you can't stop doing it, it's a problem, whether that's spending beyond your means, not being responsible at work, or whatever other event you can think of that i can;t

if you don't want to do drugs then don't, but it's kinda lame to look down on people who do, and probably not without arrogance.

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Octocrook 04-01-2005 03:24 AM

DURRRRRRRGS! *nt*
 
Durgs = teh shizzo.

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punjman 04-01-2005 03:41 AM

Re: Salvia - Hold onto your ass
 
Yeah!! Sounds great!

I love being incapacitated, and unaware of my own surroundings!

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Danoz 04-01-2005 03:53 AM

Re: Salvia - Hold onto your ass
 
<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr>

if you don't want to do drugs then don't, but it's kinda lame to look down on people who do, and probably not without arrogance.

<hr></blockquote>

Drugs DO get in the way of your life. Stop trying to make it sound like you can be a drug user and still have a grip on things. It's the product of apathy, not of control. It leads to addiction, health problems, a diverse array of shit that isn't worth the risk for nothing more than a fix or a buzz. It's expensive, I've SEEN it destroy lives and relationships. It's not arrogance, it's intelligence. You can call it what you will, and as always, you can do what you want.

Hell, this is message board, I responded to a post with my opinion. If you guys are right, why get so defensive? To whom are you directing your justification? Me? Or you.

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Gavin_86 04-01-2005 04:19 AM

Re: Salvia - Hold onto your ass
 
] In reply to:if you don't want to do drugs then don't, but
] it's kinda lame to look down on people who do, and probably
] not without arrogance.

] Drugs DO get in the way of your life. Stop trying to make it
] sound like you can be a drug user and still have a grip on
] things.

honestly, that's kinda ridiculous. It's like saying you can't gamble without having a grip on the world.

] It's the product of apathy, not of control. It leads
] to addiction, health problems, a diverse array of shit that
] isn't worth the risk for nothing more than a fix or a buzz.

alcohol isn't that ba.. oh wait, i forgot, you said "drugs", not "alochol". It's funny because they're exactly the same.

] It's expensive, I've SEEN it destroy lives and
] relationships. It's not arrogance, it's intelligence. You
] can call it what you will, and as always, you can do what
] you want.

fantastic, so have i. I've never seen, but, as i'm sure doubltess other's have, heard stories of gambling, sex addiction, and countless other things destroying lives.

] Hell, this is message board, I responded to a post with my
] opinion. If you guys are right, why get so defensive? To
] whom are you directing your justification? Me? Or you.

i think you misunderstood my post, maybe it was this remark that threw you off, "you're all retarded and wrong." i was referring to both sides for getting overly defensive on the subject of drugs itself. i wasn't trying to justify anything for either side, but merely to point out that "doing" or "not doing" drugs doesn't make either better or worse just in the same way that "drinking" or "not drinking" makes you better or worse.

it's like there is some sort of line drawn in the sand, and once you try drugs you "cross over" to the dark side of the world never to return. The whole attitude is comprable to "twinkie eaters have no self control and end up fat and disgusting and lead horrible unhappy lives". Twinkies can lead to fatness... if you don't stop eating them.

i know many who would look down on you for your drinking, any probably giving you the exact speech you just gave me. Personally i've tried salvia once, i've tried pot a few times in my life. I drink occasionally. Cigarettes are probably the only thing i can say i've ever been truly addicted to. It's very suprising to hear you speak this way about substances, especially considering your fondess for alcohol, something that has been the cause of many ruined lives.

If you don't have strong will power or self control, it's probably a bad idea to "do drugs". It's the same way that you probably shouldn't buy frequently from the hostess store if you can't controll yourself enough not to reach for that second cupcake :P

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Danoz 04-01-2005 04:28 AM

Re: Salvia - Hold onto your ass
 
<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr>

If you don't have strong will power or self control, it's probably a bad idea to "do drugs". It's the same way that you probably shouldn't buy frequently from the hostess store if you can't controll yourself enough not to reach for that second cupcake :P

<hr></blockquote>

Those would be fair arguments if there wasn't so much evidence to the contrary. If drugs are just as okay in moderation as alcohol, why are they illegal? Is it a conspiracy? They're not really all that addictive? Sure you can say that abusing alcohol is just as bad, but who's talking abuse? I've just been raised to believe that any amount of drugs is an abusive amount. Was I lied to? And if I was, why?

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Gavin_86 04-01-2005 04:30 AM

Re: Salvia - Hold onto your ass
 
] Those would be fair arguments if there wasn't so much
] evidence to the contrary. If drugs are just as okay in
] moderation as alcohol, why are they illegal? Is it a
] conspiracy? They're not really all that addictive? Sure you
] can say that abusing alcohol is just as bad, but who's
] talking abuse? I've just been raised to believe that any
] amount of drugs is an abusive amount. Was I lied to? And if
] I was, why?

those are very good questions. i certainly don't have those answers. i guess i can only speak from personal experience and say that in one instance i've smoked pot 3 days in a row, then not again for 8 months without a problem (for no particular reason, i just didnt). pot just never was really a big deal for me, and i never really did it that frequently. i'm sure it's different for many people, so perhaps that's why, in my mind, it's far less addictive than alcohol.

*gavin shrugs*

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Danoz 04-01-2005 05:17 AM

Re: Salvia - Hold onto your ass
 
<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr>

*gavin shrugs*

<hr></blockquote>

I guess that's all we both can do then. Because, you're right, I come home and I have a few beers at the end of any given day. I drink wine with dinner in the evening. It's a part of my Irish-Italian life. I mean, I've heard more than one person say that drugs are just a cultural taboo... but it's also vague to just say "drugs". I don't necessarily mean pot. I know for a fact it makes people I know extremely apathetic (or contributes to an existing apathy). But God, heroin? cocaine? what reedeming qualities do these drugs have, even the slightest amount? I can't distinguish amoung them, but I don't really want to need to... better to stay the hell away from what is essentially poison.

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pipes 04-01-2005 07:38 AM

Re: Salvia - Hold onto your ass
 
> I would still like to try LSD someday

Don't. It is a total mind fuck! Visuals are cool but it really fucks with you. I would just eat some shrooms and go and look at the moon. And you will look like this --><img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

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JadussD 04-01-2005 01:27 PM

Re: Salvia - Hold onto your ass
 
> If drugs are just as okay in
> moderation as alcohol, why are they illegal? Is it a
> conspiracy?

Oh my GOD. Because people are ignorant and think that it will actually stop drug use, or safely keep "undesirable" people away from their children (it won't, and then they're released as hardened criminals). They were banned in the first half of the 20th century during several scares involving things like like patent medicines containing cocaine and/or heroin (this is true), Mexican immigrants using marijuana then getting violent and raping white women (patently untrue), and the concern among the rich, politically influential DuPont family being run out of business by the use of industrial hemp (so they started a smear campaign against marijuana to get it banned, thus saving money). The tyranny of the majority dictates that anyone who wants to legalize or regulate the market is "soft on crime" or "wants our children smoking crack".

> They're not really all that addictive?

There is no such thing as "they" when it come to drugs. All drugs are different. I would say someone who smokes pot all day has an addiction on the level of someone who just can't stop playing Everquest all day and sits around in their parents basement, while someone with a heroin addiction has a physical ailment that makes them sick and desperate when they cannot get high. Psychedelics are mentally exhaustive (the next day, you feel like you read a book about 50,000 pages long), and addiction is not common at all. For instance, I know many people who use psychedelic drugs, but I do not know one person who is addicted to them. There are drugs such as cocaine, amphetamines, opiates, benzodiazapines like Xanax, and alcohol (haha!) which are quite addictive and can easily ruin your life or kill you if you abuse them, sure. Saying "drugs" are bad is like saying "milk" is a liquid.

> Sure you
> can say that abusing alcohol is just as bad, but who's
> talking abuse? I've just been raised to believe that any
> amount of drugs is an abusive amount. Was I lied to? And if
> I was, why?

Abuse is a subjective term, and indeed they do lie to you about many things involving drugs. To your average person who just believes what they're raised to believe and are taught in school, drugs may only be used for medical purposes. Politicians and law enforcement are expected by the public to uphold this view by whatever means necessary ("Just keep my baby off drugs!"), and their job becomes not to inform about drugs, but to prevent use. Remember, its Drug Abuse Resistance Education, its point being to teach people NOT to use drugs, not to teach people ABOUT drugs. If drugs themselves were on trial in court, much of the evidence against them would be dismissed as "hearsay". Marijuana is not 30 times worse for your lungs than tobacco. It actually contains less tar, and little if any nitrosamines, which are carcinogens present in tobacco that are the most responsible for lung cancer. Marijuana does not cause perminent memory loss. It impairs memory while you are on it, for sure, but not perminent. That's two things I was taught right off the bat by the good ol' government-sponsored DARE program that are not true at all, should I go on? LSD does not stay in your body forever. Dealers do not lace LSD hits with strychnine. Dealers do not give out free "lick and stick" tattoos to kids containing LSD to get them "hooked" (LSD just isn't that kind of drug.)

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UncleOral 04-01-2005 02:59 PM

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I figured some of you weren't total goody goody's and did
that kind of thing.

Not doing drugs makes you a total goody goody?


<hr></blockquote>

I'm never going to try anything stronger than your average headache pills, not necessarily because I'm a goody two-shoes, but rather the fact that I am a control-freak.

I don't drink alcohol or do anything that compromises my sense of reality and consciousness, I was very wild when I was young and I don't really trust myself enough to release my hold.

I remember last time I lost control, I was so angry I almost killed a guy. :\

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Blade556 04-01-2005 03:01 PM

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You fuck. Who the hell do you think you are?

There's nothing wrong with trying drugs, or doing them. It's like drinking alcohol, and probably better for you too.

At least with pot and salvia it's not destroying your liver, or anything for that matter. All it's doing is messing with your system to increase your dopamine levels, or the other one (Forget the name, the symbol is ACh or something).

ACh is a stimulant, and dopamine is a depressant. Both work at the same time to keep your body at a normal level of health, and when you add a stimulant (Drugs and alcohol), dopamine is going to start being produced more to keep your body at a normal level.

This is also how addictions occur, you take it so much that your body adjusts to this new level and when you stop taking it in, your body says "Hey, where's my drugs?" and starts to go bonkers until it reaches normal level again.

And you think you're cool for telling me off about drugs. If you're so anti-drug, quit drinking.

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MooglyGuy 04-01-2005 05:39 PM

OMG LOL!!! *nt*
 
> I'm currently in school and have an 85% average, JUST so you
> know.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Drako_Dragon 04-01-2005 05:55 PM

"Drug" Poll
 
"Drug" POLL:

How often do you use illegal drugs?
How often do you use medical drug for fun (over the counter stuff)?
How often do you use alcohol?
How often do you smoke?
How often do you use caffeine?



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Lillymon 04-01-2005 06:13 PM

Re: "Drug" Poll
 
> How often do you use illegal drugs?

Never. Seriously.

> How often do you use medical drug for fun (over the counter
> stuff)?

Also never.

> How often do you use alcohol?

Very seldom. I see few reasons to impair my abilities. I'll just frustrate myself if I decide to play a video game.

> How often do you smoke?

Never. Nasty habit and I like my lungs the way they are.

> How often do you use caffeine?

Whenever possible. I have a tendancy to do amazing things with video games after spending 24 hours awake on a caffeine rush.

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Isildur 04-01-2005 06:31 PM

Re: "Drug" Poll
 
> How often do you use illegal drugs?

Never.

> How often do you use medical drug for fun (over the counter stuff)?

Never.

> How often do you use alcohol?

Hardly ever. <!!! Edit: Anyone up for some HMS Pinnafore singing? All together now...>

> How often do you smoke?

Never.

> How often do you use caffeine?
>

I usually have a few caffeinated soft drinks a week, as well as the green tea that comes free at a Japanese restaurant I often go to with friends.

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Ugly Joe 04-01-2005 06:55 PM

Re: "Drug" Poll
 
> "Drug" POLL:
>
> How often do you use illegal drugs?
Never.

> How often do you use medical drug for fun (over the counter
> stuff)?
Never

> How often do you use alcohol?
Never

> How often do you smoke?
Never.

> How often do you use caffeine?
I'm definatley cutting back. I go through about 12 cans in a week (as opposed to the 24 cans in 3 days I used to drink).

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MooglyGuy 04-01-2005 07:19 PM

Re: "Drug" Poll
 
> How often do you use illegal drugs? Never
> How often do you use medical drug for fun (over the counter
> stuff)? Never
> How often do you use alcohol? Never
> How often do you smoke? Never
> How often do you use caffeine? A whole shitload


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Fla Flash 04-01-2005 07:22 PM

Re: "Drug" Poll
 
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How often do you use illegal drugs?

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Never

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How often do you use medical drug for fun (over the counter stuff)?

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Never

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How often do you use alcohol?

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Weekends primarily...I run offset presses. Being impaired isn't a real smart thing around something that can rip your arm off.

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How often do you smoke?

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I have gone from smoking two packs a day to one cigar (Winchesters) a day.

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How often do you use caffeine?

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Every day...I drink two pots of coffee a day.


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JadussD 04-01-2005 08:03 PM

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> How often do you use illegal drugs?

Last time I smoked weed was maybe a week ago. Before that, maybe once every two weeks or so I wouldl smoke up, mainly at parties. Before that period of usage, not at all for several months. However, I am not doing it all right now. Every six months or so go I go for a period where I'll smoke a lot, until it gets old. I've taken psychedelics before, but haven't had the opportunity lately and have been quite depressed anyways, so it wouldn't be a good idea. I also used to do whatever I got my hands on (mainly amphetamines and prescription opiates) but those days are long gone.

> How often do you use medical drug for fun (over the counter
> stuff)?

Never, anymore.

> How often do you use alcohol?

I'll get drunk every few months or so. Besides that, I may have a beer or two when over at someone's house.

> How often do you smoke?

Every day, about 7 home-made, unfiltered cigarettes. Nasty habit. The problem with cigarettes is that if at some point you were a 14-year-old kid who doesn't care if he lives or dies at all and does whatever he can get his hands on, the one nasty habit you will NOT break is smoking.

> How often do you use caffeine?

Lately, quite a bit.

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Fla Flash 04-01-2005 09:26 PM

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Every day, about 7 home-made, unfiltered cigarettes. Nasty habit. The problem with cigarettes is that if at some point
you were a 14-year-old kid who doesn't care if he lives or
dies at all and does whatever he can get his hands on, the
one nasty habit you will NOT break is smoking.

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Truer words were never spoken. I was 11.....


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Danoz 04-01-2005 09:46 PM

Re: "Drug" Poll
 
How often do you use illegal drugs?
Never.

How often do you use medical drug for fun (over the counter stuff)?
Never. For fun?

How often do you use alcohol?
Daily. Few beers here and there, glass of wine etc.

How often do you smoke?
Occational cigar or pipe (monthly maybe). I don't really inhale the things. Just kind of a special occation thing for me.

How often do you use caffeine?
Probably a pot or two of coffee a day -- It's a college thing. I never drink pop, but I drink a lot of hot and iced tea.


Now what's the point of this? :)

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Danoz 04-01-2005 09:49 PM

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Haha, you scored very low on this test ;). (Or high, whichever is better)

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UncleOral 04-01-2005 10:29 PM

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> How often do you use illegal drugs?

I never have nor ever will (completely useless).

*Bonus question: How often do you use any kind of drugs?*

Hardly ever, I used to refuse taking even your most harmless headache tablets (Paracetamol, 500mg), until one day I had a terrible headache a few years back and my mother convinced me after much arguing how harmless those tablets are.
After I started drinking *much* more water about a year or two ago I think I can count on one hand how many headaches I've had in total since then, though. None of which lasted more than a few hours at most and\or weren't removable with a few glasses of water and a quick jog.

> How often do you use medical drug for fun (over the counter
> stuff)?

I never have nor ever will (completely useless).

> How often do you use alcohol?

Never, I've tasted beer once, thought it tasted like manufactured horse-urine. As for future speculation, I've said before that I'll probably end up drinking wine to a fancy dinner now and then, as it's good for your heart in moderation.
As of right now though, nada.

> How often do you smoke?

I never have nor ever will (completely useless).

> How often do you use caffeine?

I used to drink a lot of soft drinks, but I quit completely over a year ago (I seriously don't understand people who can't quit doing something, it utterly boggles my mind). Now, I think I drink a cup maybe once a month or every three weeks when I grab a Burgerking or McDonalds (I've also made it a habit that I don't finish it).
Aside from that, I have never liked coffee nor ever thought I require an artificial boost at the start of the day, I usualy just splash some cold water in the face.

What are other caffeinated sources? I'm pretty sure I hardly ever get much caffein into my system.

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Drako_Dragon 04-01-2005 10:41 PM

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>
> Now what's the point of this? :)
>
curiosity because we are on the topic and to show that most people use some type of "drug" often

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Kuikorosu 04-01-2005 10:42 PM

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> Very seldom. I see few reasons to impair my abilities. I'll
> just frustrate myself if I decide to play a video game.

I know a guy who can play a top down shooter BETTER drunk than I can sober. <img src=smilies/cwm10.gif>

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Fla Flash 04-01-2005 10:45 PM

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Heh. Playing video games gives me more of a 'high' than anything else......maybe they stimulate the same brain responses for me.

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Satans Blob 04-01-2005 10:59 PM

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> "Drug" POLL:

How often do you use illegal drugs? Never
How often do you use medical drug for fun (over the counter stuff)? Never
How often do you use alcohol? I have like... a beer or two every few months. Never been drunk though.
How often do you smoke? Eh.. probably once, sometimes twice a week.
How often do you use caffeine? Not like I go directly for caffiniated products or anything (for one I find coffee disgusting. :P) but I do enjoy my soda.

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Gavin_86 04-01-2005 11:11 PM

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> How often do you use illegal drugs?

once every few months during the school year. probably increases greatly during summer.

> How often do you use medical drug for fun (over the counter stuff)?

never

> How often do you use alcohol?

wine with dinner, occasional beer. rarely get drunk anymore, probably will change during summer.

> How often do you smoke?

it'll probably average out to 1 pack in two weeks. although i've been known to binge.

> How often do you use caffeine?

i have 40 empty two liter mountain dew bottles in my room right now.. yah, a lot.

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Maxwell Murder 04-02-2005 02:35 AM

Re: "Drug" Poll
 
> How often do you use illegal drugs?

never

> How often do you use medical drug for fun (over the counter
> stuff)?

never

> How often do you use alcohol?

once or twice a week, unless there is a reason to do so more times(birthday, visiting family.)

> How often do you smoke?

sometimes when I drink

> How often do you use caffeine?

just quit actually.

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mFC 04-02-2005 05:16 AM

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why is this on here?
seriously, what garbage.

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Reaper man 04-02-2005 05:30 AM

Re: "Drug" Poll
 
> "Drug" POLL:

eh, why not??

> How often do you use illegal drugs?

I've tried pot twice... iddn't like either ezxperience (one of them led to a panic attack)

> How often do you use medical drug for fun (over the counter
> stuff)?

never

> How often do you use alcohol?

whenever there's some around and if I'm not working the next day.. sooo often

> How often do you smoke?

fuck that.... never

> How often do you use caffeine?

eh... not often at all

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punjman 04-02-2005 04:58 PM

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> Not doing drugs makes you a total goody goody?

I guess so. I always thought it made someone a 'smart person', or a 'person that will have his senses', or sometimes a 'person that got that cool new job that pays 90k a year'.

But if not doing any kind of drugs me to a goody goody... well damn, that means I need to start doing drugs, so I can be a 'person with a criminal record when I get busted for possesh', or a 'person that didn't get that swank new job because i look and talk like a dumbass after being fucked over by drugs 200 times', or maybe a 'person that ended up stabbing my mom in the eye because i thought she was the REAL wicked witch of the West from the Wizard of Oz.'


Someone get me a subsription to High Society... wait.. High Society... so it's NOT a pun on words... If you do drugs you are of the Higher Class!!! OMFG!<img src=smilies/upeyes.gif>

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Danoz 04-02-2005 05:01 PM

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I heard once that talking on an emulation forum makes you a nerd.

HAHAHA NERDS!

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Fla Flash 04-02-2005 05:40 PM

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Migod.
This thread just hit an off ramp.<img src=smilies/laff.gif><img src=smilies/laff.gif><img src=smilies/laff.gif><img src=smilies/laff.gif><img src=smilies/laff.gif>

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Blade556 04-04-2005 02:48 AM

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> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAFUCKYOUHAHAHAHAHA

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IceWolf20 04-04-2005 02:20 PM

Re: "Drug" Poll
 
> How often do you use illegal drugs?
Never.

> How often do you use medical drug for fun (over the counter stuff)?
Never.

> How often do you use alcohol?
Daily.

> How often do you smoke?
I've been known to enjoy a fine cigar from time to time, but less than montly....other than that, no.

> How often do you use caffeine?
HAHAHAHAH.....uhhh, gee...DAILY.


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Blade556 04-04-2005 02:59 PM

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> "Drug" POLL:
>
> How often do you use illegal drugs?

Sometimes, but I don't smoke pot anymore. Just the occasional Ex and Salvia.

> How often do you use medical drug for fun (over the counter
> stuff)?

Never thought of it before, I figure it's risky to fuck with medicine.

> How often do you use alcohol?

Every weekend I get drunk some way or the other.

> How often do you smoke?

Probably about a pack every 2 days, unless I have no money to get a pack.

> How often do you use caffeine?

I have a Coffee every morning.

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Audigy 04-04-2005 03:10 PM

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> How often do you use illegal drugs?

I tried pot once... I fondly remember it having no effect other than the mad dash for something to get the god-awful taste of smoke out of my mouth and lungs. I ate quite a sizeable chunk of parmesan cheese as a result. It worked, kinda. Other than that, never.

> How often do you use medical drug for fun (over the counter stuff)?

OMG DXM (you have to be kidding me) - never.

> How often do you use alcohol?

I used to have a couple wine coolers a month, but ever since I got started on this low-carb kick, I haven't had any at all.

> How often do you smoke?

Having grown up with a mother who smoked a pack or more daily, I was disgusted by this filthy habit at a young, impressionable age. I can't stand inhaling something so vile. Last time I smoked anything was New Year's Eve 1998, which was a clove, which caused teh vomitus, and a reinforcement that smoking is bad. :p (of course I also half-blame the sangria, but eh. mm, pink vomit.)

> How often do you use caffeine?

*glances over at can of diet mt. dew on desk* er... one can daily. :\ No sugar though...! Yeah, I know. I hate coffee, unless it has "mocha" somewhere in the name. Nowhere to get that locally though, so...


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I guess so. I always thought it made someone a 'smart person', or a 'person that will have his senses', or sometimes a 'person that got that cool new job that pays 90k a year'.

But if not doing any kind of drugs me to a goody goody... well damn, that means I need to start doing drugs, so I can be a 'person with a criminal record when I get busted for possesh', or a 'person that didn't get that swank new job because i look and talk like a dumbass after being fucked over by drugs 200 times', or maybe a 'person that ended up stabbing my mom in the eye because i thought she was the REAL wicked witch of the West from the Wizard of Oz.'

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How often do you use illegal drugs?
Cannabis is no longer an illegal drug, so the last one was my sixth psilocybin experience back in 2014.
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How often do you use medical drug for fun (over the counter stuff)?
medical drugs aren't fun. I've had two experiences with morphine thus far, and apparently it was just like heroin. the first experience left me singing the blues at the top of my lungs in a hospital bed at 16, not giving a fuck about the pain. Second was while recovering from a surgery I didn't need. Heroin addicts say they're always trying to chase the high they had from their first experience. If you take life so seriously that you need to take heroin to calm your ass down, perhaps you're needing to re-evaluate your core priorities.

I've also had two experiences with Fentanyl, both related to hospital visits. All I remember is getting sleepy, and waking up without anything but a little soreness.

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How often do you use alcohol?
My business partner forces me to drink a glass of wine with him about once a month. If this didn't happen, I'd probably not drink more than once a year. Alcohol is overrated.

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How often do you smoke?
Quit cigarettes a decade ago when I had a seizure after smoking one during a week-long court case. I was smoking a minimum of a pack of Camel Wide 99's (I'd rip the filters off) a day. I switched to smoking a gram and a half of cannabis a day. I'm much healthier now. :D

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How often do you use caffeine?
two nights ago was the first caffeine I ingested in a few months. I average one cup of mountain dew at costco every 6 months.

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