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Blade556 11-24-2005 02:44 PM

What is god?
 
I wasn't sure whether this is a good Backroom topic, but if it so seems to be, then move it there please.

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So, what is God to you?

That seems to be a good question. I had always believed that he was some mighty figure from the stars, but now it seems he is more than that.

I believe that he is always with us in mind and spirit. He surrounds us and can aid us in our times of need.

Ask and you shall receive, as I believe the saying goes.

Everytime I'm down, I ask him for help. It doesn't matter if I scream it or barely whisper it, he always quells the turmoil within myself.

Countlessly, I've asked him for the strength and mental will to help me fight some mental battle/prepare for something that requires my full attention. And time and time again, I always find that strength.

I can prove this by saying that whenever I'm sad, I think to myself "No, I don't need help with this", I remain in misery. When I finally ask for his help, I feel much better.

So, I believe God may or may not have been real ages ago, but today he remains here, guiding us when we need guidance the most.

To put it one way, I suppose you could compare God to The Force, in the sense that he surrounds all things and binds them together.

It is my belief that he limits himself to helping us for our greater good. He won't help you win a war, he won't help you open your locker. But he can give you the patience and the mental clarity to focus on remembering the correct combination to your locker.

As well, I believe understanding this is a key evolutionary step. We all have latent psychic ability, and perhaps this is our way to unlocking it.

After all, Jesus was just a man, and look what he could do.

Thats what I believe God is. Anyone else have another opinion?

Lillymon 11-24-2005 05:02 PM

Re: What is god?
 
> Thats what I believe God is. Anyone else have another
> opinion?

Nothing. I'm an atheist and have been for about the last decade.

Wow, that was short.

thegodofhellfire 11-24-2005 08:35 PM

Re: What is god?
 
> So, what is God to you?

A device to plug the gaps in our understanding of the Universe, and to give all lives and all events purpose.

People generally are happier that way, though I've made peace with my existentialism.

king killa 11-24-2005 09:26 PM

Re: What is god?
 
> Thats what I believe God is. Anyone else have another
> opinion?
>

Many things..
I don't really believe in god. I am agnostic.
I think God was made up to answer the unanswerable questions. "where do we come from?" nobody truly knows, so they made up God.
I also think he is a scare tactic. If there was no consequences for any of our actions in life, we would do anything we wanted. Saying "if you kill someone, you'll BURN for all eternity" is an easy way to make people not kill.

But think about how far fetched that is. Burning is probably the most painful thing in the world, and it just so happens to be where we go if we are bad? I call bullshit.

God is simply made up. If you feel that he gives you strength, that's fine.. I'm not going to call you ignorant or anything. But I'm sure it is just your mind.

Reaper man 11-24-2005 11:44 PM

Re: What is god?
 
<a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God>This is God, according to Wiki.</a>

Ugly Joe 11-25-2005 01:25 AM

Re: What is god?
 
> Saying "if you kill someone, you'll BURN
> for all eternity" is an easy way to make people not kill.

I won't deny the existance of fire-and-brimstone preachers, but that's a skewed message. It is, more accurately, "repent your sins and accept Jesus, or else you'll burn for all eternity." People can kill and not burn for it, and people can also not kill but still burn. The message isn't "murderers go to Hell", but "even murderers who deserve to go to Hell can be saved."

And to make a less religious point, are you trying to justify killing (or sins in general)? Is there some kind of authority by which our actions become justified? Like, is it wrong to kill someone simply because it is against the law?

edit: For clarification, I'm not saying (or arguing) that religions other than Christianity are wrong. I am implying that killa's understanding of Christianity is incorrect.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Ugly Joe on 11/24/05 08:29 PM.</FONT></P>

king killa 11-25-2005 01:27 AM

Re: What is god?
 
> And to make a less religious point, are you trying to
> justify killing (or sins in general)? Is there some kind of
> authority by which our actions become justified? Like, is
> it wrong to kill someone simply because it is against the
> law?
>

No, killing is wrong either way, but there are people who don't have that grasp, and don't do it because of consequence, not because of morality.

Ugly Joe 11-25-2005 01:33 AM

Re: What is god?
 
> not because of morality.

How do you justify your morals? I'm only curious since I've always used religion as my main moral compass.

soniczip 11-25-2005 02:12 AM

Re: What is god?
 
> So, what is God to you?
>

To me, he seems like one who likes to make life miserable for the different people and great for the undeserving torturers under the ruse that "it happens for a reason."

My dad is a mentally abusive hypocrite that believes breaking the sabbath is thinking about Monopoly and discipline is spanking your kids with 4 foot rods. Yet he tells us to be kind to everyone because God says so.
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That generally makes God look like an all-powerful being that likes to watch people suffer and makes his most devoted followers look like a bunch of gun-stockpiling assholes.


I'm a Christian that is totally torn apart on where to stand.
Although I also use religion as my main moral compass.

Rai will say the same thing as Lillymon.

"And God made the extension cord, and saw it, and it was good"
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Rai

king killa 11-25-2005 02:30 AM

Re: What is god?
 
> How do you justify your morals? I'm only curious since I've
> always used religion as my main moral compass.
>

killing someone who doesn't deserve to be killed is wrong because that person deserves a life. the killer isn't going to suffer after death for it, but he should certainly pay the price while he is here.


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