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Zophar 08-04-2008 11:05 PM

Welcome back, ZD! And a question...
 
Greetings, everyone.

I just wanted to say how extremely proud I am of the reopening of Zophar's Domain. The layout is extremely clean, and everything is very easy to find. Reminds me of how it was when I first opened this site 12 years ago... ;) But I digress...

I do have a question. I have recently been dabbling in emulation for the Wii. I've been very out of the loop and so I know this will be old news for most, but the incredible level of accuracy of Genesis, SNES, TG-16, NES emulation... and so much more is just amazing to me. And all that is needed is an SD card and a hacked save of "Twilight Princess" for Wii. I still remember trying to get a hacked version of "The_Brain's" VSMC SNES emulator because Super Mario World played with a yellow-green gameboy-like pallette with no sound. So that I could play it on my old Cyrix 6x86 P133+ with crackly sound at 8 FPS. Hehehehe...

But my question is: has anyone played around with TG16 CD emulation on the Wii? I've gotten Might and Magic III - Isles of Terra working on Hu-Go! for the Wii, with garbled graphics and no sound. Wanted to see if other people had similar luck. It looks very promising. Can't wait for the Genesis emulator to receive a Sega CD update (obviously we all know how much I loved Sega CD... Lunar 2.... look what I named the site!) Ahh, the memories...

Now I remember why I love/loved this stuff so much. Waiting weeks on end so that an emulator would update and run 1 frame per second faster, and maybe it would crash further into the game this time. Hah! So, as I love nostalgia, I leave you with the following chatlog from #zopharsdomain, circa 1998. I was updating the SPC archive and the topic of VSMC came up while discussing SNES emulation:

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*** Retrieving #ZopharsDomain info...
*** Zophar changes topic to 'SPC Archive updated: now over 2000 SPCs @ www.zophar.net/zsnes/spc/'
*** seaweed sets mode: +o XiP
<Ap0calypz> well yeah
<Infe> heh does the V8 mode in zsnes still work
<XiP> try it in does mode
<Ap0calypz> V8?
<Zophar> yeah infe
<Zophar> -v8 still works
<Ap0calypz> what's the difference?
<Zophar> haw, i asked zsknight to put that in like almost a year ago
<Ap0calypz> between win and dos?
<Infe> try it you'll see :D
<Zophar> ap0calypz:it's an easter egg treat
<Zophar> it don't matter if you try in win or dos
<Infe> well some things crash in dos but not windows and vice
versa
<Infe> cuz of different memory protection or something
<Ap0calypz> what is -v8?
<XiP> just try it
<Ap0calypz> I did
<Ap0calypz> nothing happened
<Ap0calypz> now I see it
<Ap0calypz> it's all green =)
<Ap0calypz> reminds me of the yellow palette in VSMC
<Zophar> yeah haw
<Ap0calypz> chrono trigger looks funky
*** Shamanix (shamanix@h24-64-17-30.ed.wave.shaw.ca) has joined #zopharsdomain
*** Shamanix (shamanix@h24-64-17-30.ed.wave.shaw.ca) has left
#zopharsdomain
<Ap0calypz> gotta tell them to do -vsmc for the yellow palette
<Ap0calypz> that'd rock
<Infe> -pisspallette
<Infe> :D
<Infe> you know though it would be cool if you could specify like one of 16 different colors or something to make a piss pallette out of, like all blue all red
<Infe> it might let you make some neat screen pics
<Ap0calypz> yeah
<Ap0calypz> it's spelled palette
<Infe> but i guess, you could just take a pic and modify it with some painting program and get the same thing
*** Disconnected
Session Close: Sun Nov 22 10:55:48 1998
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Zophar

D-- 08-05-2008 12:32 AM

Holy shit. |nfe. Now there's a name that vanished long ago.

The 9th Sage 08-05-2008 02:41 AM

Ye gods, it's Zophar. Very awesome to see you. :)

As for your question...I have tried Dracula X: Rondo of Blood using the version of HuGo for the Wii and it worked fine for me. No CD Audio support yet though (it should be coming, I know Eke-Eke plans on it). That's the only game I tried, but the graphics were ok...not sure what the problem could be (have you tried any other PCE-CD games?). Make sure you have a ROM of the CD-ROM system card you need in /hugo/ named as syscard.pce.

I had pretty much the same thought as you in regards to Genesis Plus! and SegaCD emulation. I'd love to play Lunar, as well as other stuff like SonicCD and Popful Mail on my Wii.

Zophar 08-05-2008 02:49 AM

Nice to see you too. 14,516 posts, wow! You've been busy hehe!

So I do have version 3 of the japanese cd biois named syscard.pce in the hugo folder. I've only tried 2 games so far: Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective vol 1 (which crashes back to the Homebrew Channel) and Might and Magic III Isles of Terra. I have about 50 games hanging around here somewhere so I'll give some of those a try and see what happens.

But yeah, eke-eke's Genesis emulator really impresses me. I don't remember Sega games looking and sounding this good; it's better than the real thing! And I cannot wait for Sega CD emulation. Lunar 1 and 2, Vay, Popful mail... and some guilty pleasures like Night Trap (RIP Dana Plato) and Adventures of Willy Beamish (loved the voice acting, hated the 5 minute wait times)!

So, who runs things around here these days? I don't see Sam (Swampgas) mentioned anywhere on here. Is he still around? It's been so long...

The 9th Sage 08-05-2008 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Zophar (Post 81117)
So, who runs things around here these days? I don't see Sam (Swampgas) mentioned anywhere on here. Is he still around? It's been so long...

That'd be Edman. I'm not sure where Edman is at the moment though, unfortunately. :P I haven't seen Sam in awhile either. Heh, and yeah...this is a post count years in the making (back years ago, the first time I was a mod, I posted constantly lol). I don't think I ever really had a chance to talk to you, IIRC I joined about the time you relinquished the site to SwampGas.

Aaah, I still remember discovering the site though. Good times. :)

*edit*
Oh yeah, and I used System Card v3 too, so I guess that isn't the problem. My ISO is just a straight bin/cue format image too, if that helps at all.

Reaper man 08-05-2008 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zophar (Post 81117)
So, who runs things around here these days? I don't see Sam (Swampgas) mentioned anywhere on here. Is he still around? It's been so long...


oooh he's gone, and for good reason. The whole reason that ZD is the way it is now is that swampfuck finally sold it to someone who gives a damn. It is co owned by Edman and some guy who is, well, unknown.

The rest of the community and I must ask. What the hell were you thinking hiring that asshole? He fucking drove ZD to the ground.

D-- 08-05-2008 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The 9th Sage (Post 81119)
Aaah, I still remember discovering the site though. Good times. :)

I still remember this site discovering me.

I got this e-mail from some "Bradi Levicoff" guy in April 1997 demanding I come to his Web site and explain myself for having stolen and rebranded a Final Fantasy V patch from a guy who, at that time, of whom I had never heard.

I also remember his Web page having red text on a black background and using this Sans-Serif font that was hard to read even on the 800x600 resolutions of the day ;)

The 9th Sage 08-05-2008 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-BOY (Post 81126)
I also remember his Web page having red text on a black background and using this Sans-Serif font that was hard to read even on the 800x600 resolutions of the day ;)

Hah. I'm glad the site design has changed over the years. ;)

Zophar 08-05-2008 03:35 AM

OK so let's see...

First, to D-Boy: I'm not sure exactly what I was thinking when I sent that e-mail but whatever I did, I'm really sorry. I would have been 17 at the time and probably didn't eat my Wheaties that morning! I assume you were part of RPGe right?

Next, Reaper Man. I'm not really sure what I was thinking. It was seven years ago when I transferred control of the site to Sam and I thought, at the time, it made sense. I have only popped in from time to time over the years and wasn't involved in any of the decision-making from that time all the way to the present. If that decision caused a slow erode of ZD, I want to apologize to the community. It was certainly not my intent.

And finally, as to site design... who remembers the GameGear imagemap from when we were www.ziplink.net/~shadow5? :) Even better... who remembers the site when it was on geocities? Prize to the person who can name the original MIDI tune that was on the site during its earliest time.

Zophar

D-- 08-05-2008 03:40 AM

Yeah, I would have been 15. I was using the handle Shadow back in those days. I just remember the e-mail being a total "WTF?" moment, and then all the stupid forum drama that followed. Thinking back, a whole lot of things would have turned out different had I just deleted it instead of joining the big barrel of "fun."

Not necessarily better or worse, just different.

As for things going downhill under Sam, he just wasn't interested in the site the last few years. He wanted to hand it off too, but by that time there were less takers. As much as I've taken jabs at him, I understand the position. It sucks when people are looking to you to maintain something you just don't want to maintain, and something you can't find anyone to maintain. Nine in 10 volunteers bail as soon as they realize they have to work.

Also, there are a lot more emulation sites than there were back in 1996-1998: when it was Node99, Archaic Ruins, ZD or PatentPending. There is less community these days because there is no longer a "place to go" -- somewhere that has it first or does it best. And by and large, except for PS2 and Wii emulators, emulators have hit the point where people are just happy with how they work. To the general user, there isn't such a big difference in updates anymore, unless there is some strange new NES dump he wants to play.

It's not like before, where, as you said, we were all hurting for a cracked VSMC to break 15fps in [game name here]. If something like bsnes or Nintendulator is too slow, you can usually just shrug, say "Oh well," and load up Snes9x, Zsnes, FCE Ultra or mednafen.

Hrm, a Web site MIDI in 1996-97? Must have been either "Fade to Black" or Cammy's theme from Super Street Fighter II.

Zophar 08-05-2008 04:04 AM

That's a good point. Heck, many of the sites fed on each other. I started ZD out of a desire to create a site like Archaic Ruins or Node99, but one that was updated constantly with the latest emulators, as well as that "something extra". That's where ideas like forums, music archives, save/movie archives came from. When "Emu News" hit and they were updating on an hourly basis(!) it really motivated me to keep the files and news flowing like a fountain. And it was a LOT of work...and very time consuming. The rewards were just from seeing the site gain in popularity, seeing my email box explode, and watching emulator coders get better and better as more and more games started working.

It's like was said earlier...you need to have passion. Some do, some don't, and that's just how it is.

And the midi was neither of those, though both would have been excellent choices!

Zophar

The 9th Sage 08-05-2008 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-BOY (Post 81130)
Nine in 10 volunteers bail as soon as they realize they have to work.

Ah, but the thing is...and maybe this was different back in the day, but more recently, when I was a staffer for a little while back when he was still around, he didn't treat the staffers very well. I remember forgoing sleep many times, trying to update things since ZD sorely needed updates at that time, and just getting 'yelled at' over the internet for it. Not very good inspiration as far as working harder, especially not when you're running on three hours of sleep.

Anyway, it's nice to see the site finally start picking itself up.

D-- 08-05-2008 06:15 PM

I was more referring to my translation experience. We sent scripts for Der Langrisser and Heroine Anthem to more than 20 people. Of them, I think one ever finished even one file.

I still get emails from people who want to translate Heroine Anthem files. I send the files out, but nothing ever comes back. Usually 2 - 3 people a year, and has gone on for 5 years now. I don't even talk to them: they just volunteer and vanish.

Xeon3D 08-05-2008 06:45 PM

Welcome Brad! It's been a while!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zophar (Post 81133)
That's a good point. Heck, many of the sites fed on each other. I started ZD out of a desire to create a site like Archaic Ruins or Node99, but one that was updated constantly with the latest emulators, as well as that "something extra". That's where ideas like forums, music archives, save/movie archives came from. When "Emu News" hit and they were updating on an hourly basis(!) it really motivated me to keep the files and news flowing like a fountain. And it was a LOT of work...and very time consuming. The rewards were just from seeing the site gain in popularity, seeing my email box explode, and watching emulator coders get better and better as more and more games started working.

Those were the days.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Zophar (Post 81133)
It's like was said earlier...you need to have passion. Some do, some don't, and that's just how it is.

Too bad the most of them fill in the later nowadays...

Zophar 08-06-2008 12:12 AM

I know what you mean. How have you been Xeon3d?

Umiliphus 08-06-2008 01:29 AM

Your name is bleeding!
I love those stupid little name tags. I always wondered if people made their own or if there was someone whose job that was.

Zophar 08-06-2008 01:36 AM

It's been a while but some of the staffers made their own, and others created them for us. I know alamone helped create some and so did infe. I think one of them made mine for me, since I contain no artistic talent whatsoever. :(

The 9th Sage 08-06-2008 03:02 AM

I know the one I used was made by me. :P

lexmetroid 08-06-2008 07:30 AM

Wow. Just wow.

Although I didn't discover ZD until fairly recently, I never thought I'd hear from the person who started it all. Anyways, I would just like to ask, has the emulation dream changed at all since 2000? And if it has, how so?

You can still find the original Emulation Dream and the Emulation Dream 2000 here on ZD. Has the emulation community evolved in the manner you hoped for?

Thanks!

Lillymon 08-06-2008 01:24 PM

I made my own as well. I believe I was still using Paint Shop Pro 7 back then. I think I did a decent job considering my own lack of artistic talent.

Mental Midget Slayer 08-06-2008 03:04 PM

It's Better
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zophar (Post 81133)
That's a good point. Heck, many of the sites fed on each other. I started ZD out of a desire to create a site like Archaic Ruins or Node99, but one that was updated constantly with the latest emulators, as well as that "something extra". That's where ideas like forums, music archives, save/movie archives came from. When "Emu News" hit and they were updating on an hourly basis(!) it really motivated me to keep the files and news flowing like a fountain. And it was a LOT of work...and very time consuming. The rewards were just from seeing the site gain in popularity, seeing my email box explode, and watching emulator coders get better and better as more and more games started working.

It's like was said earlier...you need to have passion. Some do, some don't, and that's just how it is.

And the midi was neither of those, though both would have been excellent choices!

Zophar

It's much better than node99 and Archaic and was, despite how well they were built.

Zophar 08-06-2008 11:54 PM

Well thank you for saying so, but if it weren't for those two sites, I never would have been inspired to create mine. I was introduced to emulation by a friend, Ross (gb) who showed me a Gameboy emulator which, I think, was VGB-DOS. I was incredibly impressed that such a thing was possible on a computer! The rest, they say, is history!

Xeon3D 08-07-2008 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zophar (Post 81168)
I know what you mean. How have you been Xeon3d?

Good, I'm good! Thanks for asking. You also seem to be good, so I'm glad.

On the small art thingy that you were speaking about, I remember perfectly that I did mine in good old MSPaint. We had requirements for size in pixels and in KB's that we had to meet, and if I tried to animate it in anyway it would blow the KB size away. From what I can remember, only Death Adder had an animated one, aaaaand.... we never got to know (at least I didn't) anything about him apart from his online handle being "Death Adder" :) .

Still about the love thing... it really was a hard blow to see ZD stall as many others did (RG most noticeably) after I was one of the "victims" (notice the doublequotes) of Sam's management issues (yup, for the ones that do not know, I was "fired" for not closing a HTML tag and fucking up a table completely by not doing so).

Year after year (as you can see by my post count I was never into the wwwthreads aka forums before) I got used to see the old emulation scene disappear, website by website. A few others have appeared (NGEmu, along others) but they didn't feel like ZD to me. Strangely enough, one of the websites that stood from those times and it's still updated regularly is Navarone's, and that's basically the only one that I would follow regularly for the next couple of years (I still do).

When I got notice that ZD would reopen (don't quite remember how I got to know of the reopening), I got all hyped up again, but soon the hype was gone.

Unfortunately, I now think that that will be a dream that's going to be hard to materialize, but only time will tell. From what I can see at the moment, it'll take a LOT of time. People changed, the scene changed and it seems I didn't.

Oh well... Still, I'm glad to see that you're alive and still more interested in emulation after all these years.

Finally, I just wanted to say that I still do (as I did in the old times) identify myself a lot with your Emulation Dream

Zophar 08-07-2008 01:59 AM

I'll give you that, it looks like the site has been dormant so long that much of its user base has dwindled. But then again, in 1996, when we had about 20 visitors per day (and 15 of them were me hitting refresh, hehehe), it didn't stop me from posting something new every single day! Granted, this was pre-fiance, pre-management job, blahblahblah.. but this is a new challenge that excites me. And this isn't even my site now. But then again...

This never was my site. It's yours. It was always all of yours even then, and especially now. Don't give up. See my signature.

hcs 08-07-2008 02:33 AM

Hi Zophar! I only arrived on the scene late in the life of the N64, but ZD was instrumental in emulation becoming a passion for me. The music archives, in particular, are brilliant. Sorry I wasn't able to do more during my short stint on staff.

Every once in a while when you drop in is always a treat, like George Washington stopping by to see how the US is going (though I'm sure you're a lot happier with the state of things than George would be). Gonna be around longer this time?

Xeon3D 08-07-2008 04:44 AM

Actually, I just see this becoming a new RG. Nothing on the frontpage, and some more "action" on the (horrendous) forum system that they have...

Umiliphus 08-07-2008 06:51 AM

I amuse myself
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zophar (Post 81172)
It's been a while but some of the staffers made their own, and others created them for us. I know alamone helped create some and so did infe. I think one of them made mine for me, since I contain no artistic talent whatsoever. :(

Eeeeeeeep! Zophar talked to me! And he mentioned infe! Infe was a legend. I used to make doom wads full of sound effects I stole with Snessor. Good times, stupid times.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lillymon (Post 81190)
I made my own as well. I believe I was still using Paint Shop Pro 7 back then. I think I did a decent job considering my own lack of artistic talent.

I use Paint Shop Pro 6 now. Oopf. This is for reasons independent from the denial which drove me to console emulation.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xeon3D (Post 81205)
From what I can remember, only Death Adder had an animated one, aaaaand.... we never got to know (at least I didn't) anything about him apart from his online handle being "Death Adder" :) .

I once asked if that was really his name, appearing as it did in the designated "real name" box. I don't remember his exact response, only that shortly afterward he changed his name to Nomad, trying to throw me off the trail, but I know quite well that he continues to call himself "Death Adder" (and probably mis-time spcs, as well! Oh, the thought of it!).

hcs 08-07-2008 02:06 PM

Death Adder is Brandon Cobb, for whatever that might be worth to you.

Umiliphus 08-07-2008 05:19 PM

Stop it! You're ruining the magic!

D-- 08-08-2008 08:33 AM

Uh, he's the president of SuperFighterTeam, the company that made the English version of Beggar Prince.

Xeon3D 08-08-2008 08:59 AM

Haha, and I was thinking that I'd never find more info about him :)

Haoie 08-08-2008 09:54 AM

Hooray for us, and yay for emulation.

Mental Midget Slayer 06-14-2010 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lillymon (Post 81190)
I made my own as well. I believe I was still using Paint Shop Pro 7 back then. I think I did a decent job considering my own lack of artistic talent.

Wow I still use that and 4. Beats todays Corel additions.


SZabadság!

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS NECROPOST)

Reaper man 06-14-2010 07:42 PM

You were already told once not to necrobump threads. Hopefully this 3 day ban will teach you to NOT be a retard on the forums.


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