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Koolboyman 02-17-2009 03:56 AM

Hack Rejection Thread
 
Admin's note: I've decided to unsticky this as it's pretty pointless to have here stickied anyway.

Name: Super Adventure Island V
Author: LUISDooMER

I really, REALLY wanted to accept this. It's hard, but it's doable, but more importantly, it's fun. However, there are problems he can easily fix.

http://i42.tinypic.com/jufif4.png
I'm sorry, but this is just a mess. Not only do you have weird colored pink tiles attempting to blend in with the blue and brown one, you have glitched up sprites.

http://i39.tinypic.com/10f0xll.png
That guy who follows you and drains your energy (I forget his name) doesn't look quite right... Plus, most cut off tiles. This entire level seems like a blatant 1-3 level edit anyway with enemies moved around.

http://i39.tinypic.com/hwdd9w.png
This was very unusual...

http://i41.tinypic.com/fd7yu1.png
I can walk right though this thing, and it never attacks me. Is there any point of this being here?

Another annoyance that can be easily fixed:
http://i39.tinypic.com/1zcjo5l.png
I can walk through one of these blocks and fall to my death, while others on the same ledge, I can't. Replace that with tiles you can't walk through, this isn't the only cave level it's happened in either.

I can understand that the spriteset declaration may cause other sprites to be glitchy while fixing the other ones, but here's a suggestion. Add your own sprite tables for specific levels that have enemies that aren't normally supposed to be together. I'm sure you can fix these problems in no time, and once you do, I'll accept it.

By the way, we do not accept ROMs. We need to get rid of that option...

Reaper man 02-17-2009 05:02 AM

this feels like a fun thing to sticky. :D

Koolboyman 02-17-2009 07:18 AM

Thanks for sticking Reaper.

---Warning: "Mature" Content---

Mario 1 Hack: Naked Headless Mario Fights the Dick Nazis
Author: HaxorKyo
Description: things get ugly when the dick nazis invade the mushroom kingdom!!! you need super mario/ duckhunt rom to play!

Obviously violates Zophar's Hacking Policy. "Mature" ROM Hacks must have a warning, and be more than simple text/graphic changes. Putting the words "f###" and "s###" in every sentence and changing all the sprites to male genitals is not a quality hack, anybody could do that in less than a day.

Naked Mario and Nazi symbols everywhere with the text "Fuck off" in the blocks. Har-de-har-har. It fits in that joke hacking site, and would be a popular ROM hack if it was made ten years ago, but does not belong here.

The 9th Sage 02-17-2009 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koolboyman (Post 86656)
Naked Mario and Nazi symbols everywhere with the text "Fuck off" in the blocks. Har-de-har-har. It fits in that joke hacking site, and would be a popular ROM hack if it was made ten years ago, but does not belong here.

In all fairness...I'm pretty sure this one wasn't supposed to be quality, but yeah.

Fla Flash 02-17-2009 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koolboyman (Post 86656)
Obviously violates Zophar's Hacking Policy. "Mature" ROM Hacks must have a warning, and be more than simple text/graphic changes. Putting the words "f###" and "s###" in every sentence and changing all the sprites to male genitals is not a quality hack, anybody could do that in less than a day.


Thank god. I used to get the "Potty Mouth" hacks a lot. Seems like when somebody learns to hack text, the first inclination is to throw some f***** s*** around.

:)

HaxorKyo 02-18-2009 02:59 AM

Don't be an immature fool. I didn't want to ban you, but that is what happens when you begin to post this BS all over the board. We don't need this, especially in threads like this. -9th Sage

Maximum Potion 02-18-2009 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaxorKyo (Post 86674)
you guys suck fuck you! you didn't even play it. you think your better than us just because you make translations and shit that nobody wants to play? your wrong! rom hacking has it's roots and its roots are in Naked Headless MariO!\
you people make me sick! you guys are a bunch of whiny little faggots.
:flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flip off::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff:: flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipo ff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::f lipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipof f::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::fl ipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff ::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::fli poff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff: :flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flip off::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff:: flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipo ff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::f lipoff::flipoff::puke:

C'mon haxor, take it like a man!!
Not everyone's going to like your hack lol.
Personally I find cheap vulgar hacks to be funny because I am extremely immature.

Also, you used the posessive ''your'' when youl should have used the contraction ''you're'', but whatever, it doesn't matter... Just throwing that out there :P

InVerse 02-19-2009 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaxorKyo
rom hacking has it's roots and its roots are in Naked Headless MariO!

Actually, the roots of ROM hacking lie in the translation of MSX ROMs. Graphical hacks of Mario didn't pop up until a few years after translation hacking was in full swing.

Koolboyman 02-20-2009 12:17 AM

A great example what not to do when your hack is rejected. Please don't throw a four year old temper tantrum. Speaking of bad hacks, we have two more this time.

Ninja Gayden, and Big Bird's Sexy Strip Show b k0k0them0nkey. First of all, they're both ROMS, and we don't accept ROM's anymore. and second of all, violates that same rule as before. Enough said.

k0k0them0nkey 02-20-2009 12:39 AM

Oh I figured they'd be rejected. And I did include the .ips files along with the rom files. You should probably take out the option to submit the roms on the submission form even though it says that it is optional. Sorry to waste your time. But if anyone wants to see elmo suck his own winkle til it explodes, they'll probably know where to find it.

Reaper man 02-20-2009 05:29 AM

Jeez, I leave for 3 days and this is what happens? ;p

k0k0them0nkey 02-20-2009 06:21 AM

Elmo and winkles?

Koolboyman 02-27-2009 07:04 PM

Well koko I won't hold it against you if porn hacks are your thing. Thanks for being more mature about the situation than your little friend did.

Name: Sonic Legacy
Author: Bobesh8
Description: Sonic Legacy is a Sonic the Hedgehog hack created by Bobesh8, the leader of Team Legacy. It was originally planned to be just a simple palette and layout hack, but eventually Bobesh8 wanted to make the hack a team effort. As of now the team consists only of a few members, but Bobesh8 wants to expand it and get a group together in an effort to make something different than most Sonic hacks.

Sounds promising isn't it? Well I was dissapointed because it failed two rules in the agreement.

First off, this is a ROM. I'm working on trying to find a solution to remove that submiting option since I can't remove it myself for some reason.

Secondly, these levels are blatant level edits with barely anything edited. The most noticable thing I found was that the pallet was changed. If I want to play Sonic 1 levels, I'll play Sonic 1. See for yourself.

http://www.zophar.net/pics/593-pyjdmgqtzr.png
http://www.zophar.net/pics/593-yuqxqvxfpn.png

If you want to see more of how similar this hack is to the original game, click here.

When you come back with your own levels (not minor modifications of the old levels, but levels you built yourself.) and an IPS patch, I'll accept it. If theres anything I missed, let me know. Good luck.

Koolboyman 03-01-2009 02:32 AM

Name: Super Mario Bros 1
Author: Mariob
Description: N/A

Are you kidding me? This IS Super Mario Bros 1. I played and I saw absolutely no difference between the original game. In fact, the file he submitted (Which was a ROM), says it was last modified on Thursday, May 30th, 1996. Please don't submit unmodified ROMS here and try to pass them off as ROM hacks.

Update: He submitted it again.

Reaper man 03-01-2009 06:55 AM

hah, did you run a hash on the "hack" and the legit rom? I wonder if anything was really changed at all?

InVerse 03-01-2009 12:38 PM

Maybe he hacked Metroid so thoroughly that you can't even tell the difference between it and SMB1. Did he actually name it "Super Mario Bros 1" in the submission? If not, maybe he managed to fuck up and upload the wrong file. If so, maybe he was just trying to be polite and provide the ROM to everyone who wants to play the SMB hacks. Or maybe he forgot to take his meds. (Alternatively, he may have taken someone else's meds and now they're going to run out and submit something even more f'd up.)

The 9th Sage 03-01-2009 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InVerse (Post 87008)
Did he actually name it "Super Mario Bros 1" in the submission?

I saw it in the queue and I think he did, yes. :P

Reaper man 03-01-2009 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InVerse (Post 87008)
Maybe he hacked Metroid

CAN'T HACK METROID

Koolboyman 03-11-2009 01:05 AM

Name: Mr. T Ate My Balls
Hack of: Willow (NES)
Author: k0k0
Description: Mr. T has gone crazy and you have tried to stop him. He took your balls...eating one and holding the second. You must get your balls back and save the people from the evil Mr. T.

(hack of story, all enemies, characters, items, and some scenery)


Another "Adult" hack with naughty words put into ever sentence as well as naked sprites.

I will go out of my way though to say this hack is more original than the generic Adult Hacks, which are all about "LOL PENISES LOL F*** LOL HITLER LOL POT LOL SPERM LOL DEATH!!!!", but I still can't let this one in, besides everything is basically the same except the graphics and text. It'll make a good addition at the Joke hack site though.

k0k0them0nkey 03-11-2009 02:25 AM

Fair enough. At least each of my hacks will make an interesting read for people viewing this thread.

Maximum Potion 03-11-2009 02:28 AM

Sure does lol.
I like stupid text hacks :P

The 9th Sage 03-11-2009 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0k0them0nkey (Post 87259)
Fair enough. At least each of my hacks will make an interesting read for people viewing this thread.

You know, that's true. lol

Koolboyman 03-21-2009 08:30 AM

Name: Super Impossible Bros
Username: graham mod
Description: a hack of mario 1 and it is hard

No, this is not a hack of Mario 1. It's the original Mario Bros with nothing changed. What's worse, this is a ROM.

As a reminder if you made a mistake submitting your real ROM hack, I won't accept it if its one of those "Hard" hacks that require pixel perfect jumps and loading save states hundreds of times. Hacks are supposed to be fun, not brag that it's "hard".

InVerse 03-21-2009 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koolboyman (Post 87631)
No, this is not a hack of Mario 1. It's the original Mario Bros with nothing changed. What's worse, this is a ROM.

Out of curiosity, did you do a compare between the submitted ROM and the original to make sure there wasn't some underlying code changes that weren't immediately apparent when playing the game? (A really simple way to do this is to use Lunar IPS to create a patch and select the same file for both the original and edited files, it will tell you to try using different files.) You're probably right, but it seems odd that an unmodified ROM would be submitted twice in such a short period of time. (I really need to finish my document on how to properly release a hack, not only how to create a patch but how to write a useful readme file as well.)


Quote:

As a reminder if you made a mistake submitting your real ROM hack, I won't accept it if its one of those "Hard" hacks that require pixel perfect jumps and loading save states hundreds of times. Hacks are supposed to be fun, not brag that it's "hard".
Quite a few people find those sort of hacks to be fun. Now, I would still require such hacks to involve interesting (in this case, damn near ingenius) level design, but I wouldn't absolutely refuse all such hacks automatically. (Have you ever played I Wanna Be The Guy? The creators request that you download the demo first before downloading the full game, based on the assumption that most people will get frustrated and quit before the third room, so no reason to waste their bandwidth on the full game. I'm stuck in the third room. :( )

Koolboyman 03-21-2009 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InVerse (Post 87636)
Out of curiosity, did you do a compare between the submitted ROM and the original to make sure there wasn't some underlying code changes that weren't immediately apparent when playing the game? (A really simple way to do this is to use Lunar IPS to create a patch and select the same file for both the original and edited files, it will tell you to try using different files.) You're probably right, but it seems odd that an unmodified ROM would be submitted twice in such a short period of time. (I really need to finish my document on how to properly release a hack, not only how to create a patch but how to write a useful readme file as well.)

I forgot to mention, the zip came with a readme that said where to get ROMS, had some stuff about how there's satanic messages on the $1 bill, and the ROM itself said it was last modified in 1996 (again).

Quote:

Originally Posted by InVerse (Post 87636)
Quite a few people find those sort of hacks to be fun. Now, I would still require such hacks to involve interesting (in this case, damn near ingenius) level design, but I wouldn't absolutely refuse all such hacks automatically. (Have you ever played I Wanna Be The Guy? The creators request that you download the demo first before downloading the full game, based on the assumption that most people will get frustrated and quit before the third room, so no reason to waste their bandwidth on the full game. I'm stuck in the third room. :( )

Well the majority of Youtube "hard" hacks just use ideas from other games with poor level design. People make crap like this every single day, just trying to copy Kaizo. Youtube gives an unfortunate stereotype to hacks.

Kaizo was a good game, because it used original ideas to overcome obstacles. If Kaizo was submitted here, I would accept it. Now, everyone just uses the ideas from that game into theirs because they have none of their own. If it is done right, with original ideas, is FUN, and has at least C- level design, I can accept it.

Maximum Potion 03-21-2009 06:03 PM

Kaizo was fun.
Hard hacks are on occasion fun when you get your rewind, save and load state buttons on your ps2 usb controller and take turns with friends and stuff...

InVerse 03-22-2009 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koolboyman (Post 87644)
If Kaizo was submitted here, I would accept it.

Just so you know, Kaizo was apparently released with a caveat not to post it on sites other than the Japanese site on which it was posted. As the original distribution site is 2ch, you might want to honor those wishes, as a pissed off 2ch is not fun. (Also, Kaizo just means "mod", the actual name is apparently Super Mario Mix 4 or some such.)

Some day, I'll finish my SMB hack, if only to use the one "trap" I devised that I rather enjoy. While you're pretty much guaranteed to die the first time you encounter it, it is completely obvious how to pass it after that, it's just a matter of getting your timing right. (It usually takes me 4 or 5 tries, but my reflexes aren't particularly high caliber when it comes to that sort of thing.) I had originally designed the level for the Super Mario Remix, but they deemed it too difficult for official inclusion. :(

jarethhx 03-22-2009 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximum Potion (Post 87645)
Kaizo was fun.
Hard hacks are on occasion fun when you get your rewind, save and load state buttons on your ps2 usb controller and take turns with friends and stuff...

LMAO! I do the exact thing. I just bought this thing called: UNIVERSAL USB CONVERTER, works like a charm! I set save state 0 on L1, Load state 0 on
R1, fast foward on my L3 and rewind on R3. XD L2 and R2 are my default SNES "L&R" buttons. :P Sorry I'll shut up now.

Koolboyman 03-24-2009 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InVerse (Post 87657)
Just so you know, Kaizo was apparently released with a caveat not to post it on sites other than the Japanese site on which it was posted. As the original distribution site is 2ch, you might want to honor those wishes, as a pissed off 2ch is not fun.

Sounds reasonable enough. If people don't want their work here, it doesn't have to be.

More ROMS submitted!

Username: gsavage
Name: SK1
Description: Knuckles In Sonic 1
This is a ROM. Submit an IPS file.

Name: Very Tricky Levels
Username: kamilek7173
Description: N/A
This is also a ROM.

Koolboyman 03-31-2009 10:05 PM

Name: Super Kevin World
Hack of: Super Mario World
Author: BloodyBanana
Description: A short, 8-level hack with moderate to hard difficulty. Graphic changes. Completely re-done overworld.

It's a fun hack if you can get into it.

Why it was removed:
- Bad Level design
- Using ideas from Kazio (Which almost every Youtube mario hack does).
- Easy to get lives
- Have to abuse glitches to complete a level
- One level you need a fireflower to destroy blocks with. Problem is, a floating chomper is blocking one of the blocks that you need to destroy to pass, and you can't destroy that block unless you get hit by the chomper and run over it, where you lose your fireflower ability and the only way to exit the level is to die on purpose.

k0k0them0nkey 04-20-2009 12:33 AM

My hack was rejected and I'm not sure why. *whine* *calls waaaambulance and orders some waaamburgers and french cries*

k0k0them0nkey 04-20-2009 09:03 AM

Here, I'll do your work for ya ;-) You're welcome buddykins.

Name: Red Rocket
Hack of: Earthbound Zero
Author: k0k0
Description: In the early 1900’s, a brutal series of animal rapes occurred which took a small rural town in China by storm. As quickly as the rapes started, they stopped and all was peaceful…until now.

69 years later, it’s happening again. Animals are going fucking ballistic and rampaging in the streets. You must stop them in the only way possible.. by raping them into submission! Seek answers as to why these animals are going insane and put a stop to it.

Features: All text is edited/replaced with comical and inane dialogue. All enemies are changed for the better! An all new story. Scenery is changed to fit the story. Main character’s starting stats have been overhauled to prevent having to grind enemies for hours.


Another "Adult" hack with naughty words put into ever sentence as well as fighting animals with penises using various sex toys. It could be the most innovative game of the year on any console due to the fact that it contains many dirty words, but not one instance of the word "Pube" and today I'm only passing hacks that have the word "pube" in them or hacks that use level editors that keep the same sprites and dialog, just with a changed looking level.


I'm just messing with you koolboyman. I know if you were to let my game through, it'd be the end of the world and dogs would be our masters, filling out requisition forms to purchase humans. I do wonder what people food would taste like from a dog's manufacturing plant. Anyways, anyone who finds Red Rocket, enjoy! I tried to make something special with my hundreds of hours of work. ;-)

Isildur 04-20-2009 11:29 AM

. . .

. . .

. . . Every day a little bit of my faith in humanity dies.

InVerse 04-20-2009 11:40 PM

Hell, I'll give you big props simply for the title. If I didn't greatly dislike Earthbound, I might actually give it a try.

Reaper man 04-21-2009 01:32 AM

*looks at title*

:lol:

I didn't even notice that before.

videogamefan65 02-05-2010 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koolboyman (Post 87986)
Name: Super Kevin World
Hack of: Super Mario World
Author: BloodyBanana
Description: A short, 8-level hack with moderate to hard difficulty. Graphic changes. Completely re-done overworld.

It's a fun hack if you can get into it.

Why it was removed:
- Bad Level design

Exactly what constitutes "bad level design"?

Maximum Potion 02-05-2010 08:30 PM

I think that it implies things like being bland, not changed enough, areas that can trap you forcing you to reset, things that are impossible (literally) to dodge, too many holes or enemies, generally boring to play to name a few.

videogamefan65 02-05-2010 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximum Potion (Post 97666)
I think that it implies things like being bland, not changed enough, areas that can trap you forcing you to reset, things that are impossible (literally) to dodge, too many holes or enemies, generally boring to play to name a few.

So basically stuff like "muncher hell" then?

Maximum Potion 02-05-2010 08:34 PM

I guess so... We're really looking for hacks that you can pick up and play, that are fun and original, and that (though they can be hard) are still playable without cheating (i.e save states).

videogamefan65 02-05-2010 08:39 PM

So where would you recommend I go if I wanted to wind one of these hacks for whatever reason.

Also, when you submit a hack, how long does it take until it is accepted or rejected?

Maximum Potion 02-05-2010 08:45 PM

You mean the hacks that we have here? Or the bad ones that we were talking about?

When you submit a hack, it gets added when either Flash or myself sees it in the submissions.

videogamefan65 02-05-2010 08:48 PM

I meant the hacks hosted here, just because I recently uploaded my first hack, and I was wondering if it would get accepted or not. Probably not, as it is noobish :)

Maximum Potion 02-05-2010 08:51 PM

Unfortunately that is not enough of a change to the game itself to qualify (though it sounds pretty funny to me).

Of course, if you are working on a full level hack of Megaman II, then that will probably be accepted as long as it works and is playable. Don't forget to make backups as you progress!!

videogamefan65 02-05-2010 08:58 PM

Figured, I'll probably go back and add more stuff then re submit it.

To be honest I only really made the hack because I was bored. Oh, and because the red mage's hat is f***ing awesome:).

Maximum Potion 02-05-2010 09:03 PM

Hahaha red mage rules.

videogamefan65 02-05-2010 09:17 PM

So, out of interest, any ideas of what I could add to make the hack less crap?

GamerTony 02-06-2010 09:59 AM

How exactly are save states cheating?

videogamefan65 02-06-2010 02:05 PM

Well it's not really skill if you just keep reloading savestates until you win.

Maximum Potion 02-06-2010 02:20 PM

There's a difference between saving a state because you have to go do something and there is no save point around and saving sate every time you dodge something or hit a boss. In the second scenario, it becomes nearly impossible to die, it's like a rewind key.

robbysheldon 02-26-2010 04:01 PM

I am confused; the ROM hack policy states that if my hack isn't accepted, to check the hack rejection thread. But, in the first place, there must be hundreds of hacks a month (maybe thousands?) and the rejection thread would be much bigger with the many rejected hacks.(not all of them pass, right?[mine didn't:thumb up:])
So why is there a hack rejection thread if it isn't updated, and if the reasons the hack wasn't accepted are not posted in the rejection thread, shouldn't they be at least PM'd to the submitter of the hack? Or did I miss something...:confused:

Maximum Potion 03-01-2010 01:10 AM

This thread was started by Koolboyman a while back (who is no longer in charge of the hack moderation). I prefer to PM people when their hacks aren't accepted. As for your hack, I must have forgotten, and for that I am sorry.

The reason that your hack was not accepted is because it did not have enough changed in the game to qualify (I assume that yours was the Mario Bros. Hack). A few graphics changed with some minor text edits isn't enough to qualify, sorry.

If you were to replace every level with one of your own, however, provided that they were well designed, your hack probably would have passed.

The 9th Sage 04-20-2010 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pattywick (Post 98831)
Hello

This isn't the place for links to your site, it's a thread that's meant to explain hacks that weren't accepted. If you want to tell people of your site then go ahead I suppose, but make your own thread instead of bumping old threads and posting it in this one.

Gotgull 04-30-2010 02:58 AM

okay read all 6 pages just to find out that I'll get an email if my hack isn't accepted, laughs..

I did make a mistake in the description, there are not 6 characters in my hack it only has the usual 5, Mario, Mallow, Geno, Princess, and Bowser. So can I edit the description if it is accepted or well afterwords.

Maximum Potion 04-30-2010 04:37 AM

Don't worry, I'll take care of it in the morning.

Gotgull 04-30-2010 12:31 PM

Okay thanks, I don't know if it'll be accepted or not, It is a easy type hack, I played through the game and was able to max out the levels for all the characters and beat the game in a few hours, normally it takes about 15 hours of level grinding and you get bored of the game by then. fighting smithy was still hard though and I barely beat him. The stat changes are kind of minor but they do balance out when all the characters reach there max level.


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