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pipes 10-29-2006 08:50 AM

Re: The "afterlife"
Wow long.
Bla, I think your thinking too much. The only reason why people feel the need to think about the afterlife is self preservation. Animals do not have this problem because of the way they evolved and we are sentient beings. We know we will die and we know we are alive. Self preservation is an animal instinct that fucks with out higher brain functions. What people do is create a world or something to help silence the instinct. When you die your brain turns off. What happens to memory in RAM when you turn off a computer. Thats whats going to happen to your memories and everything else you have "saved" to your brain. Its as simple as that. Nothing more or less. You die and life goes on.
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JadussD 10-29-2006 09:49 AM

Re: The "afterlife"
> Wow long.
> Bla, I think your thinking too much.

That doesn't do much to stifle my feelings that people are bound by making ignorant assumptions about existence which all can be shown to be inconsistent. In a way, any time you posit an absolute truth like "dead is dead, period", you negate infinite possibilties which could be demonstrated as alternatives to the absolute truth. Everything I have been doing is based on deconstructing reality by pointing out its assumptions. I could go on forever, showing how language is contradictory and creates the illusion of an objective reality which has "truths". If people believe in this take on reality, they've totally closed themselves off to infinite possibilties.

HINT: There is a higher self, difficult to reach, which has NOT done this, and is the part of you that has constructed the world you are a part of, and you are distanced from it by your belief that you are not, in fact, the universe. We all are. You are in essence conversing with yourself in this conversation, just as I am conversing with myself when I speak to you. In this way, we could be seen as part of something no different than the part of a brain that sends one signal to another part of the brain, and allows ideas to be formed. Without the higher self, this seems absurd. However, with the higher self, existence and choices could be seen as a way of seamlessly moving through an infinite consciousness, of in effect, choosing where in reality we go. If we go to the part where we gain the knowledge of this higher self, we can consciously change the position within the infinite that we occupy. This is the "big secret" that people don't know about, because they're in a part of the infinite where the higher self has created something that's detached from it by being a consciousness heavily reliant on means of understanding itself that are inaccurate. Since it doesn't know that there's something else it can tap into, to allow it to change reality not just through moving its physical body, but by merely THINKING about stuff, one totally misunderstands their full potential. The more people who are around you, the more people who are you. :)

However, the more people who think that they're just "me", the less control "you" have. Now, in thinking about negative thoughts, that things are negative, one actually _creates_ a negative reality (which would be the case in "this" reality as I see it now, as the higher self is mysterious, and us physical beings are controlled by fear of what we can't wrap our senses around).

The higher self hates fear though. Fear dissipates the higher self. Ask it to do something that doesn't benefit anyone but yourself, and whatever it takes from others to create in your reality will probably come back to bite you in some way. In other words, "be careful what you wish for" and "don't be self-centered"

And another thing, since the higher self is the creator of infinite things both perceivable and unseen, it considers "not wanting" something, as in, focusing on something you don't want as the same thing as wanting it, since the image in your head of what you don't want causes it to exist, as in reality there's no real division between you and anything else, and not wanting it brings you to a place in the infinite that people who "want it" would go to.

This is the source of all "magic", supernatural phenomena, paranormal stuff, alien abductions, and other weirdness: people creating a reality bound by slightly different, non-absolute rules co-existing with people who believe that reality is "objective", or that scientfic laws determine the nature of the reality experienced, rather than the other way around. So that's why none of that shit can be proved: the people who want the proof exist in a reality where its not possible to prove it, as they've made it objective while the others made it subjective.

These are the big secrets about existence. Quit thinking you're a puny limited powerless being. You're only that if you think you are, which you do. Get over your "self".
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pipes 10-29-2006 01:43 PM

Re: The "afterlife"
Say there is a cat in a box. You walk past the box and had no idea the cat was in there. Does the cat exist? Ripples through the universe. Cause and effect. Your compost thar buddy! You exist you have always existed and will forever exist. Not in the form that you know but as a wave. Ride the wave.<img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>
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punjman 10-29-2006 04:21 PM

Re: The "afterlife"

> I do believe that there is a problem here. If most people
> think that hell is a fiery torment place that they go to,
> won't the "definition" found when it is "looked up" reflect
> this perception?

Using long drawn out sentences does not a learned person make.

Here's a hint in your search for the real hell.


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punjman 10-29-2006 04:22 PM

Re: The "afterlife"
> Hell would be a place where I was forced to read your shitty
> non-funny comics and listen to you're retarded rants for all
> of eternity.
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icenine0 11-01-2006 11:18 PM

In the afterlife...
you could be headed for the serious strife
now you make the scene all day
but tomorrow there'll be hell to pay

people listen attentively
i mean about future calamity
i used to think the idea was obsolete
until I heard the old man stamping his feet.

this is a place where eternally
fire is applied to the body
teeth are extruded and bones are ground
then baked into cakes which are passed around.
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JadussD 11-02-2006 02:59 AM

Re: The "afterlife"
> Using long drawn out sentences does not a learned person
> make.
> Here's a hint in your search for the real hell.

> "Sheol".

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Porchmonkey 11-02-2006 03:31 AM

Re: The "afterlife"
> "Sheol"

Wow, throw around a Hebrew concept you absolutely no idea what it actually means. Sheol is figurative for the desolation of the grave, death itself. Not an actual place.

Unless of course you think the afterlife we're all doomed for is sleeping in some giant underground cave for all eternity,

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punjman 11-02-2006 04:49 PM

Re: The "afterlife"
> Wow, throw around a Hebrew concept you absolutely no idea
> what it actually means. Sheol is figurative for the
> desolation of the grave, death itself. Not an actual place.

lol@wrasslers trying to be smRt.

Sheol is the direct word for 'grave', not the desolation of such. Moron.
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punjman 11-02-2006 04:50 PM

Re: The "afterlife"
> > wah!


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