Antidepressants?

GeminiMan

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So, basically, I've had depression for... pretty much too long for me to know when it actually started. It's been several years, at least; perhaps since middle school, or maybe only about three years. I really can't say for sure. I've had obsessive-compulsive disorder my entire life, but it wasn't until probably 8th grade or so that it actually became a real anxiety issue (particularly revolving around having a tight enough t-shirt collar). I now have major anxiety problems when people open their mouths at all when they eat or smack their lips (to the point where I have to relieve anxiety through physical pain--usually squeezing an ice cube as hard as I can for a while, or if it's bad and I just can't handle it I might hit myself or my head on something in a potentially more destructive manner). I also tend to feel a lot of irrational anxiety when family members are around and I have highly recurrent thoughts of suicide/death. The fact that I've been living with Crohn's disease since I was 12 doesn't help with any of this, either.

I finally talked to my doctor about some of this (mostly just my OCD) a few weeks ago, and he said he'd be "happy to prescribe" me antidepressants on a low dose. I declined for the time being; I'm fairly reluctant to take anything that will change me mentally. Does anyone have experiences with antidepressants, good/bad/otherwise? I really don't know what to do. They might benefit me (both for OCD and depression), but they might change me a bit.

I really have never told anyone how badly depressed I am, or how much I'm losing control of my OCD. I'm perfectly fine and feel great when I'm with friends, but five minutes of being alone puts me into a sort of state of despair. I feel pretty guilty about even being depressed... which is maybe why I don't talk about it. I'm intelligent, get perfect grades, people like me, I get high praise and recognition from the school and community, and yet I just feel like a miserable wreck. Even as I write this I feel like a whiny attention seeking child. I don't even know if that's a rational thought at this point or not.

Well... anyways. If anyone can offer any advice or insights, it'd be very much appreciated. I've wanted to be able to take care of this without medications (I'm on enough pills and whatnot already), but I just don't know if that's a real possibility at this point. I value my intellectuality and creativity probably more than anything--what are the chances that antidepressants might alter any of this? I also do have a family history of depression and anxiety, further indicating the whole messed up seratonin levels thing. Meds have helped make my mom feel "better" for the last 15 years or so, but if they're the reason why she so often seems so clueless and ultimately fails at any sort of abstract reasoning, I think that I would want no part of that.

Hopefully this all makes sense. This post has become far more random and reflective than initially intended. Thanks for reading.
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JadussD

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> I finally talked to my doctor about some of this (mostly
> just my OCD) a few weeks ago, and he said he'd be "happy to
> prescribe" me antidepressants on a low dose. I declined for
> the time being; I'm fairly reluctant to take anything that
> will change me mentally. Does anyone have experiences with
> antidepressants, good/bad/otherwise? I really don't know
> what to do. They might benefit me (both for OCD and
> depression), but they might change me a bit.

I might get flames for this, but in my experience, anti-depressants can save your ass if you're in dire peril, full of strong self-destructive impulses you can't control, but are an impediment to getting to the underlying root of your problems. If you feel you have an emergency situation, seek help, don't even pay heed to this, but do not view them as a permanent solution. Believe in yourself; do not view your complexes and psychological problems as insurmountable, or yourself as a robot who is a slave to them. You are a mind with more strength hidden within you waiting for you to tap than anyone around you probably realizes, especially pill dispenser shrinks; don't turn your definition of self into a series of textbook disorders and self-fulfilling prophecies which state that you must be dysfunctional. Overcome your personal weaknesses, force them to obey you, get on top of them, don't let your mind be come a series of labels of what your personal weaknesses are given to you by pill dispensers, and don't think that biology has rendered them unconquerable. Believe in your self!
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The 9th Sage

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Well...I don't have experience with it myself, but I do know of this girl I dated for a good while. She had depression and it got horribly bad. I tried to help her, but it didn't seem like I could no matter what I did because it was just that bad. She got on some medicine to help her deal with it, and the difference was amazing. It was like I had her back again, it lifted her up enough to where she could deal with it a lot easier.

I mean, they shouldn't be used as an end-all, be-all 'cure' or something like that I feel, but they can really help if used in the right way. Most people still have some issues I think, but at least this way it can lift them up enough to where they can properly work on those issues and get better on their own, eventually.
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puduhead

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i used anti-depressants on the reccomendation of my shrink. they got me from point A to point B. then i took myself off them and began approaching my problems from other angles:

a steady diet of good friendships, activities, a loving woman, and nature's own relief aid, marijuana.

that being said, there are no cure-alls. you do what you have to to get by, always looking to the next stage of evolution, however long that may take.

i believe that progression is the key. learning to understand yourself and the environment around you. too much self-blame or society-blame can take you down bad paths. only what is necessary to move on is required.

don't beat yourself up or those around you. remember you are fragile. realize so are many others. humanity is a huge sinking ship. the captain is teh evil powers that be. they generally only care about health and whole being as it relates to monetary. remember that and you'll fare better than the fool who genuinely believes this world and its social systems legitimately gives a shit about him/her. because thats a fallacy engineered for greater profit margins.

a crutch isn't bad if you need it

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hcs

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I've been on prozac for a few years now, there is a strong correlation between when I stop taking it and when I melt down (lose jobs, fail classes, sleep in for a week). Not sure if there's a causal relationship here but I've been sticking with it for a few months.
I don't feel any different, I just tend to be more useful.
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GeminiMan

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Do you feel worse when you stop taking it than you did before you even started, or is it more of a reversion to how you were before you started taking Prozac?
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hcs

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I don't think I'm any worse when I come off it than before it, but I don't think I'd still be in school without it, and I'd never have been able to hold down a job in the state I was coming out of high school.
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shawn

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> a steady diet of good friendships, activities, a loving
> woman, and nature's own relief aid, marijuana.

Got ok friendships, this is my activity, I haven't got any pussy but I got 2 strong hands and a shitload of pron, and I make up for it all with smoking a 1/4 in the past 3 days. <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>
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Fla Flash

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Anti=depressants are not as healing as something else.
Forego the medicine.
A kitten or a puppy. It's a great tranqulizer. Believe me.
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shawn

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> Anti=depressants are not as healing as something else.
> Forego the medicine.
> A kitten or a puppy. It's a great tranqulizer. Believe me.
>

I would have said pussy but sometimes the side effects are worse than the cure. <img src=smilies/retard.gif>
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puduhead

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> Got ok friendships, this is my activity, I haven't got any
> pussy but I got 2 strong hands and a shitload of pron, and I
> make up for it all with smoking a 1/4 in the past 3 days.

well i haven't gotten any either. my woman just gave birth and doctors have to give her the green light before proceeding with teh sex.

as for the pot, i regulate like a psychiatrist would prozac. so i'm on about 1/16 ounce per month. just a little bit does me. i rarely even get "high" anymore. my goal is just to try and keep my brain chemistry in check. left unchecked and i can become listless and without concern for myself and others.
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shawn

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I'm going to quit again very soon, so I'm just letting it happen for a while just to have good memories before letting it go. That is what life is going to be from now on, just good memories when at all possible. No more worrying about shit for no reason other than to worry and just make my brain tired and depressed from all that shit. I'm just going to do my thing and never look back. Took my entire life to learn that lesson and it was just sitting right there in front of me the entire time. <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>
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icenine0

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If you're interested in alternative methods of treatment, I've found the http://www.hriptc.org/Pfeiffer Clinic</A>, a non-profit org, to be very interesting.

They theorize that many mental illnesses are caused by nutritional deficiencies or excesses in the methylation cycle (which, amongst other things, produce the big three neurotransmitters targeted by antidepressants: dopamine, serotonin, and norepinephrine), and claim to have successfully treated nearly 20,000 patients using blood tests and vitamin/mineral supplements.

Articles:
http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/articles/pfeiffer.htmThe Critical Role of Nutrients in Severe Mental Symptoms</A>
http://www.nutritional-healing.com.au/content/articles-content.php?heading=Major%20Mental%20Illness%20Biochemical%20SubtypesBiochemical Subtypes</A>
http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/articles/walsh.htmCommentaries by Willam Walsh, Ph.D., Senior Scientist</A>
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