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Jathys
01-04-2005, 10:13 AM
For those of you who don't know, Metroid Arena is just a mini-hack used to test SMILE and ASM coding. The project is fairly large (especially Ceres) and getting larger, but the time is coming to move onto the "real" project.

I've got an idea (don't we all) for a very in depth Super Metroid hack. There's going to be a lot of ASM coding to be done (I'll be doing the bulk of this). Graphics and level data are the main things I'll need help with . . . Enemies are going to be completely redrawn.

What I'm thinking:
-ASM core of changes available to anyone working on the project
-each person would be assigned a specific area to hack
-each person would be assigned certain banks/groups of enemies to be responsible for changing properties of
-someone would be responsible for enemy graphics, which will be redone almost completely (the hack is not on Zebes)
-after SMILE makes it possible to edit the graphics in TLP, someone will get those graphics too
-(if anyone wants to be responsible for the graphics for their specific area/enemies, that would be great)

There would, of course, be certain "rules" with how areas are put together, to allow the ASM to be best integrated throughout the game. Sorry I can't get into the details of the hack here, but I will be glad to give more info to anyone who is seriously interested in helping . . . This is going to be a very unique metroid game. If you don't like change, don't bother<img src=smilies/puke.gif>

*If interested in helping, either post here or PM me.*

BTW- Any of you who downloaded my gravity patch would have noticed that it is flawed (seemingly seriously, but an easy fix). It has been fixed and will be updated soon.

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Latest from Arena... *Not* in the hack mentioned above.

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CROcOp
01-04-2005, 07:35 PM
I would like to help you, but I can`t provide much help.
I could hack the text, but I think that is what anyone can do.


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GreatWhiteDope
01-04-2005, 11:27 PM
>
> I could hack the text, but I think that is what anyone can
> do.
>

Hmmm are you talking about the story or just text in the game, like when you get a power-up?

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CROcOp
01-04-2005, 11:37 PM
> Hmmm r u talking about the story or just text in the game,
> like when you get a power-up?
>
Well, if it is needed, I could do both.

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GreatWhiteDope
01-04-2005, 11:40 PM
In a hex editor??? I want to edit the text in my Super Metroid hack, but I suck at hex, the only thing I can do is count in hex.

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One part the Fuehrer the one part the Pope.
It's the inevitable return baby of the Great White Dope.
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CROcOp
01-04-2005, 11:59 PM
> In a hex editor??? I want to edit the text in my sm hack,
> but I suck at hex lol the only thing I can do is count in
> hex -_-
>
It is hard at the begining, but once you get used to it, then it is very easy.

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GreatWhiteDope
01-05-2005, 12:11 AM
> It is hard at the begining, but once you get used to it,
> then it is very easy.
I dont think I'll ever get used to it, I don't even understand it
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CROcOp
01-05-2005, 12:16 AM
> I dont think I'll ever get used to it, I don't even
> understand it
>
Heh, I was no better. I did not even know what hex means.<img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

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GreatWhiteDope
01-05-2005, 12:21 AM
> Heh, I was no better. I did not even know what hex means.
>
lol How did you learn though? If theres a tutorial online somewhere, I could use one =\

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One part the Fuehrer the one part the Pope.
It's the inevitable return baby of the Great White Dope.
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CROcOp
01-05-2005, 12:34 AM
I started by reading all tuto (http://www.zophar.net/tech/transdocs.html)rials (http://www.romhacking.com/docs/gendocs.php) I could find. Then I started to play around with some simple games.


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GreatWhiteDope
01-05-2005, 12:56 AM
You like to read huh? Thanks for the docs, maybe I could get better now, somewhat. =D

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One part the Fuehrer the one part the Pope.
It's the inevitable return baby of the Great White Dope.
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CROcOp
01-05-2005, 01:00 AM
> u like to read huh? lol thnx for the docs, maybe i could get
> better now, somewhat =D
>
You will like those docs. They will teach you all the basics.

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MooglyGuy
01-05-2005, 02:01 AM
> u like to read huh? lol thnx for the docs, maybe i could get
> better now, somewhat =D

You might work on your command of the English language before you work on a ROM hack - typically people don't want to have characters saying things like "omg u r wtf lol ne1 got 2 lol rotfl thnx."

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GreatWhiteDope
01-05-2005, 02:01 AM
> You might work on your command of the English language
> before you work on a ROM hack - typically people don't want
> to have characters saying things like "omg u r wtf lol ne1
> got 2 lol rotfl thnx."
>

I just talk like that because I'm used to it, here I'll edit all my posts, is that better for you?! -.- asshole <img src=smilies/flipa.gif>

> You will like those docs. They will teach you all the
> basics.
>
They helped alot =D except I can't make a table for Super Metroid =\ For some reason I can't run most DOS programs...

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Fla Flash
01-05-2005, 04:00 AM
Hey, I don't care if you're the president of Cornholio.
Don't call other people assholes. He didn't deserve that.
Mkay?

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Jathys
01-05-2005, 08:27 AM
SMILE will soon have a text editor in it... one that will be better than the irritable one from SABS.

As for whether or not I'll need someone to do the text editing, I can only say (and I try to say this without giving *too much* away):
Each person will be responsible for the text in their area.

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Chill Penguin
01-05-2005, 08:39 AM
Funny I haven't seen this until just now.

If I'm given what to do, I can do it. Mainly areas though.

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GreatWhiteDope
01-05-2005, 03:43 PM
> Hey, I don't care if you're the president of Cornholio.
> Don't call other people assholes. He didn't deserve that.
> Mkay?
>
I just got pissed off at him, but I think he deserves to be called an asshole. He told me off, he could of said it in a nice way but he didn't.

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One part the Fuehrer the one part the Pope.
It's the inevitable return baby of the Great White Dope.
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CROcOp
01-05-2005, 07:35 PM
> I just got pissed off at him, but I think he deserves to be
> called an asshole. He told me off, he could of said it in a
> nice way but he didn't.
>
Just cool down a little.<img src=smilies/angryfire.gif>

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GreatWhiteDope
01-05-2005, 08:01 PM
> Just cool down a little.
>
I am, I just hate it when people say stuff like that, you have to admit he could of put that a little nicer =P

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CROcOp
01-05-2005, 09:23 PM
> I am, I just hate it when people say stuff like that, you
> have to admit he could of put that a little nicer =P
>
Well, being nice always pays back.<img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

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GreatWhiteDope
01-05-2005, 09:31 PM
> Well, being nice always pays back.
>
I treat others the way they treat me. =]

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king killa
01-06-2005, 02:41 AM
> I treat others the way they treat me. =]
>

heh, it's a good thing you never went into the military.

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SpaceTiger
01-06-2005, 04:23 AM
> I treat others the way they treat me. =]

So, in a way, you're acting like Jesus.

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MooglyGuy
01-06-2005, 04:43 AM
> > I treat others the way they treat me. =]
>
> So, in a way, you're acting like Jesus.

I really hope that was sarcasm.

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SpaceTiger
01-06-2005, 05:49 AM
> I really hope that was sarcasm.

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Madeye
01-07-2005, 02:17 PM
I'd love to see a Metroid hack that makes use of the sprites and tiles of the Wonderboy series, and vice versa for Wonderboy III: Dragon's Trap.

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metbot
01-07-2005, 07:54 PM
ill help
I dont get much time to though

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