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SharkESP
06-06-2003, 03:58 AM
I wnet and bought St. Anger at exactly 10:05 this morning. I took it home, and opened up. First impression: Very nice art, an 11 track cd, and an additional dvd with all 11 songs played live in studio. Excited am I, to start.

So let's do this in the manner of Good, Bad, and Ugly. THen I'll wrap it up by typing out all my notes as I listened to the album through for the very first time.

Good: This album is loud and very fast. On a decent Stereo ($1200) everything pops out. Kirk and James still seperate each other one left and right. There are no ballads, mid tempo songs, or cheesy "hey hey hey"s

Bad: THier tone has been revamped, trading loud and clear for loud and muddy. The tone is so harsh that it warps the sound of the chords themselves. The drums have and guitars have been pushed to the front, drowning out the bass for most of the tracks (a.la. And Justice for all) . The snare drum feeds back.

Ugly: There is one bass solo and no guitar solos. Kirk's greatest appearence is some wah-accompanied pic-scrapes on the best song of the album, track 7 (Shoot me again). The time changes are abrupt, seemingly unnessecary, and don't always apply to all the instruments (think Megadeth on a harsher scale). THere is one song that is a perfect Korn Song (Invisible Kid) and Sweet Amber (8) is the only one that fails to drag on, at 5+ minutes long. Several songs in this album (1,3, 4, 11) become little games of "How can we fuck up this great groove/riff"

Ugliest: James, you are 40. You have been through therapy. You do not need to sing about everything you felt tthe last three years in a tense growl that would be harsher than your first album, if your body had that kind of strength. As it is, listening to the whole album makes you an old man that we all want to slap and tell to shut up by the time we get to Purify.

"Frantic tick tick tick tick tick tock..." This, made me want to puke. Here's my song notes...enjoy.

Frantic: Great grooves, Kill the snare, James is a shitty clock... (7 mins)

St. Anger: MIxed better than the radio cut. BUt repetitive and redundant (madly in anger with you? say you're pissed and shut the fuck up already...). Has grown on my since radio release.

Some Kind of Monster: Awesome start, then instruments swap double time and half time randmoly and seperately. In between is the most god awful excuse for a melody riff ever created. Let the Lyrics Breathe for Christ Sake...this song ends the first 20 mins of the album, and james has been silent for 3...

Dirty Window: Thank GOd a good song...of the breadfan/Prince/Killing Time vein. Sounds great through first 3 minutes. Should have stopped...doesn't. 7 minutes. James repeats single adjectives at random. Doews so high...GRRRR!!!

Invisible Kid: Good, fast groove. James stops straining, finally. Would make an awesome Korn song...vocal harmony? OOh! Sounds like a well produced soulfly song with Jon Davis on vocals. At this point, 5 tracks in, i haven't heaard one decent song throughout. Sad...

My World: Album drags on like a dead mu;le's ass...good song on it's own. Good mosher, and no little annoyances here...

Shoot me again: Good riff, nice pick sctratch lead. Best Song so far.

Sweet Amber: Good melody. Softest part of whole album. First signs of Kirk's pulse...3/4ths of the album in.

The Unnamed Feeling: Kirk playing Arpeggios an overlapping rhythm...on THIS ALBUM? GOD HELP US ALL!!!
doesn't suck. Four unison bends could be confused for a ramones solo...

Purify: Suimple formula - James plays riff, Lars overhits drums, Kirk plays doubling complimentary friff for thickness, James howls. Rinse, lather, repeat.

All within My hands: I'm focusing on Kirk now because James has pissed me off by now. 70 mins of the James and kinda Lars show... Kirk plays melody throughout the verses. Ends with nice feedback reminiscent of Garage Days...Album ends.

The DVD and watching them play makes things more bearable, but as a full Audio CD, don't torture yourself. I only reccomend for the DVD, barely, and that's cause both discs are 14.99 together.


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JCE3000GT
06-11-2003, 03:16 AM
Having read your supisition...I will refrain from buying the album if it's not vintage Metallica...I appreciate the time you spent telling me (a hardcore old school fan) the bits and details of the new album. I'm rather disgusted that the music went from clear to "muddy"...being the high quality nut that I am that sickens me.

Again thanks for the info.

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SharkESP
06-11-2003, 04:59 AM
I'd suggest you test otu a few songs on thier own. The easiest old school comparison I can make is to take kill em all and Justice, and make a bastard child without any lead guitar.

The album is best viewed with the free dvd that comes with it.

The new tones on everything does take a good long time to get used to...especially the drums. and they aren't really improvements.

If you want single songs to listen to, i'd jsuggest Shoot me again, Dirty Window, and maybe Invisible Kid.

There are some songs that would be quite good if you hadn't just heard 10 songs just like them before them.

and thanks for the kudos :)

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Octocrook
06-11-2003, 09:27 AM
I am in complete agreement with my 2 friends. I pretty much dislike Metallica and they pretty much love Metallica. Our thoughts on St. Anger? Wow...it took only 15 years for another great album.

There's a lot of old Metallica I haven't heard. A lot of it is hard rockin and fast apparently. I really don't know cuz I haven't heard. What I have heard is what they've done in the last decade and a half, and everytime someone touted Metallica up as some kind of larger than life band, I wondered aloud "what the hell makes them so special? I heard all these rock ballads by 80s hair bands". Finally...they return to what started them out in the first place. As much as I don't like Metallica...I like this album a lot. I might even buy the damn thing....how bout that?

Oh yea, and solos and whatnot are trivial. Most of my favorite songs don't have solos...instead, they have good music. Solos are for "wow, that's bad ass...I wish I could do that" kind of stuff, but I never got into that mindset. Instead it's like "ok...when's the song gonna come back". Very few drum solos are exceptions to this, but guitar and bass...yipdeedoo.

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JCE3000GT
06-12-2003, 02:08 AM
> I like guitar solos because it's like wordless voice singing
> a melody in the song.
> Kinda like a saxophone solo in a good jazz song or a violin
> solo in an orchestra or somethin'.
> There are no words, but you can still sing it and feel it.

> Good stuff if done right.

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SharkESP
06-12-2003, 05:01 AM
A guitar solo is a break for the singer and a showing of extra effort for the lead guitarist.

If you're willing to sit there and figure out how to play over the rhythm, enhancing the melodies and driving the song to a place and making a strong statement, then I really appriciate what you've made.

Trust me, it is very difficult to create a balls to the wall, make this song awesome solo: THere are literally billions of ways to fuck up the song.

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JadussD
06-12-2003, 06:51 AM
> "what the hell makes them so special? I
> heard all these rock ballads by 80s hair bands".

Dude, Metallica was never a "hair band"...they were a metal band. Hair bands are mistakenly labelled "metal", when in fact they are hard rock. In Metallica, the distant roots of Florida death metal bands like Death, Deicide, Cannibal Corpse, et al...the same cannot be said for hair metal bands. Most hair bands used guitar solos strictly for the glamor and "whoa cool" aspect of it...good metal bands use them in such a way that they are in musical context with the theme of the song, and serve a purpose, whether they are highly technical or not. If you want an example of a real metal band using a guitar solo to great effect, get the song Angel of Death by Slayer. It sounds incredibly, chaotically violent, which fits the theme of the song perfectly, and you can just see the image of death, destruction and murder taking place in the creator's mind when he devised it...

This ends my arrogant rant about metal.


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