religious public schools

[king killa]

My school is holding a christian event, and had a flyer posted in the hallway. I posted this next to it, but my paper was taken down by a teacher.

On May 6, 2006, at 7PM, the Edgewood FCA, or Fellowship of Christian Athletes, will be holding a Christian music event at the Edgewood Senior Highschool in hopes of "saving" their peers. The ringleader, Anthony Mucci, went through some rough times, and was "saved" at a similar event in Cleveland called "Acquire The Fire." After this revelation, Mucci feels he must do his best to convert other students to the Christian Faith.
My name is Brandon Seymour, and I too had a revelation of sorts. I was raised Christian and brought up with it, but have come to the decision to believe that there is no God. I feel that the students who are constantly trying to spread the word of Christianity are wasting their time. Whether you believe there is a God or not, nothing will suddenly fix your problems, unless it is you. Mucci claims that was saved, and that his anger, abuse, and alcohol problems went away after finding Jesus. The only reason his problems went away is because he made the choice to stop doing those things. Religion doesn't affect anyone outside of their own mind. My life didn't take a turn towards drugs or alcohol when I made the choice to become Atheist, because morals and religion are two different things completely. I do what is right because I know that it is right, not because I fear eternal suffering otherwise.
I know that I am not going to convert any Christians to Atheism, and I'm not trying to. I hate when people try to convert me, so I'm not trying to convert anyone else. I am only trying to open the minds of the students who still don't know what they believe. These students who are lost and don't know which way to go, turn to Christianity because it sounds so promising. But Christianity only puts fear into people, to make them believe. "Believe or Burn in Hell" - What kind of loving and forgiving religion uses scare tactics like that to get people to believe? When I last spoke with Mucci, he informed me that he had read the Bible, but he read the version which was reworded to make it "simpler for youth". What he probably doesn't realize is that it is also reworded to take out a lot of the obvious flaws of the Bible, while it still leaves several not so obvious flaws. One thing removed from the revised version is the part that states it is ok to own slaves, and to beat them when they do not do as told. Sounds like the perfect religion if you're a racist. Also, Christianity beliefs are that the earth is between 6,000 and 12,000 years old. I'm sorry, but I thought dinosaur fossils proved that it is millions of years old. Do Christians not believe in fossils or science? Another flaw is the story of Noah's Ark. I'm sure you all know the story of Noah building the boat, and taking aboard 2 of each animal during the flood of the world. In order to take aboard that many animals, the boat would be bigger than our county. If there was food and water to last each animal, the boat would be larger than our entire state.
Please, do not waste your time being afraid of an imaginary hell. I hope that nobody actually buys into any of the preaching that goes on at the concert. If you enjoy that type of music, than have fun, but don't fall victim to all the lies that are told. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to let me know. If you'd like to contact me by email, my adress is bseymour@gmail.com.

Thank you.
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[soniczip]

> My school is holding a christian event, and had a flyer
> posted in the hallway. I posted this next to it, but my
> paper was taken down by a teacher.

Schools shouldn't fucking have religious events. Most are too busy being suck-ups(also known as politically correct.) I agree with you. Teachers are apparently being hypocritical at your school. They all talk about "religious tolerance" but can't stand it if someone exercises free speech and says they don't like it. I'd tell Anthony Mucci to fuck off.
Oh, and his situation is similar to the south park episode "Bloody Mary"

"The crowd continues to grow larger every hour, as the statue of the virgin mary continues to miraculously cry blood..... out her ass."
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[Ugly Joe]

> Teachers are apparently being hypocritical
> at your school. They all talk about "religious tolerance"
> but can't stand it if someone exercises free speech and says
> they don't like it.

Oh please, this isn't a free speech issue. Chances are high that the Christian kid went through the proper authorities to make sure it was ok to put up the posters, whereas king killa probably just pasted it up on the wall without asking anyone.

This is a church/state issue, not a free speech issue.
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[CEpeep]

> Oh please, this isn't a free speech issue. Chances are high
> that the Christian kid went through the proper authorities
> to make sure it was ok to put up the posters, whereas king
> killa probably just pasted it up on the wall without asking
> anyone.

That was my assumption too. Even at my college, you have to fill out a request to have posters put up. It has nothing to do with free speech, it's just policy. Even if it's something the school supports, they'll take down the posters unless they have the "Aproved" stamp on them.

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[Cornellius]

Agreed
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[soniczip]

> Agreed
>

God damnit, why do you people always gang up on me?
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[Vampire hunter D]

> Oh please, this isn't a free speech issue. Chances are high
> that the Christian kid went through the proper authorities
> to make sure it was ok to put up the posters, whereas king
> killa probably just pasted it up on the wall without asking
> anyone.

> This is a church/state issue, not a free speech issue.

Exactly. I agree completely.
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[The 9th Sage]

Huh, I just had a thought...it's ironic that they are preaching Christianity yet you are preaching Atheism (is this a word?). :)
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[king killa]

ok, so if I were to request permission to put it up, and I was denied, would that be an issue as far as the school allowing one religious thing and not another?
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[soniczip]

> ok, so if I were to request permission to put it up, and I
> was denied, would that be an issue as far as the school
> allowing one religious thing and not another?
>

Probably.
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[Disch]

> ok, so if I were to request permission to put it up, and I
> was denied, would that be an issue as far as the school
> allowing one religious thing and not another?

No. What you wanted to put up contained a lot of Christian bashing. Not stuff I necessarily disagree with... but my point is that schools don't like to have that stuff up, since it would just aggrivate people.

I doubt the flyer about the Christian meeting or whatever did any sort of knocking or bashing or downspeak of any other denomination. If it did... I'm sure they wouldnt've gotten permission to put it up.
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[Ugly Joe]

> ok, so if I were to request permission to put it up, and I
> was denied, would that be an issue as far as the school
> allowing one religious thing and not another?

Well, yours is demeaning to the Christian faith in that it essentially says "Christianity didn't work for me." If your message had been "Atheism works for me" instead, then I think it would be decent enough for the school to allow (assuming your school lets students post random essays on their bulletin boards).

So, if the other poster had said something to the extent of "repent from your sinful athiestic lifestyle", then I'd say the school would have been wrong for denying your poster and not theirs. Although, somehow I get the impression that the poster was simply an ad for a Christian concert and nothing more.
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[king killa]

> somehow I get the impression that the
> poster was simply an ad for a Christian concert and nothing
> more.
>

It was an article about how Mucci was falling into sin and was saved, and that the event is to save others from "bad choices"
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[Ugly Joe]

> It was an article about how Mucci was falling into sin and
> was saved, and that the event is to save others from "bad
> choices"

Hmm...there is something not quite right about that. I can understand the school's rationale as wanting to promote an anti drug/alcohol/teenage pregnancy thing, but the allowing the religious angle is odd.

Of course, public schools are very silly places. I remember this one time when the school forced my friends to remove their halloween costumes because the concept of halloween was offensive to a few students for religious reasons. I forget which religion was being offended, though. I know it wasn't one of the big three.
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[sephiroth111]

> Of course, public schools are very silly places. I remember
> this one time when the school forced my friends to remove
> their halloween costumes because the concept of halloween
> was offensive to a few students for religious reasons. I
> forget which religion was being offended, though. I know it wasn't one of the big three.

aye, had that happen also, but i refused to take mine off, stating that it was a part of my religion. it worked, cause it was true. Well its actually a part of wicca and some other paganistic religions, not sure which, but i just said that and they couldn't touch me. Also i was dressed as Ryu from Street fighter, nothing illegal.
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