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JadussD
04-14-2006, 10:23 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/national/judastxt.pdfhttp://www.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/national/judastxt.pdf</A>

Lot of hoopla about this, but I haven't seen a link to the actual text. Haven't read it yet but I had trouble finding it when I looked before, so on the off-chance that someone wants to read it, here it is.
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mrfreeze
04-14-2006, 12:17 PM
Damn I thought they were still working on translating it so I hadn't bothered to track it down. Thanks Jaduss!
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king killa
04-14-2006, 04:16 PM
Christianity is so fucking retarded.
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JadussD
04-14-2006, 04:35 PM
> Christianity is so fucking retarded.
>

Yeah, I would say so. I just read that. I think its an esoteric book that wasn't meant for the public at large, and doesn't much of it doesn't seem to mean much to anyone but a few who lived a long time ago. Although that Seth/Jesus relationship is...interesting. (Seth is an Egyptian god that's arguably the origin of the archetype that would be called "Satan")
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Fla Flash
04-14-2006, 11:35 PM
This is one of my major problems with the bible in particular, or any religious book claiming to be "God's Words".

They were all written by men.
Men. And who's to say, if they were actual events or not, they weren't either exaggerated or made to seem less important by same men.

Don't get me wrong - I think the ten commandments rule, and only one of those rules is prevelant in every single religion.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Just my .25 cents.
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Disch
04-14-2006, 11:50 PM
> Christianity is so fucking retarded.

Heh. As I've often said... it's be funny how ridiculous it is... if it weren't so frightening.

But I guess people feel better after putting their faith in <s>superman</s> Jesus. *shrug* What can I say.
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soniczip
04-15-2006, 01:27 AM
> Christianity is so fucking retarded.
>

I am a christian. Not all christians are bible beating fanatics like Jack Thompson or my dad. Wikipedia actually classifies the Gospel of Judas under <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism>Gnosticism.</a>
Calling Christianity retarded isn't nice. But I'm not gonna try to convert you or anything. That's a job for pastors.
And on a final note, can you give up Catholicism for lent?

Edit: I don't think the pastor will succeed either. Christianity is about loving your neighbor, not condemning everyone around you who doesn't completely agree with you to hell.
Edit2: Jesus didn't laugh at his disciples.
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Disch
04-15-2006, 01:39 AM
> not condemning everyone around you who doesn't completely
> agree with you to hell.

Coulda fooled me. Last I heard those who don't accept Jesus as their savior will not be saved.

I fucking hate religious scare tactics. Playing on people's fears and insecurities in order to sway their judgement is one of the qualifications for "evil" in my book.

I don't think God would be such an ego maniac as to demand worship from every human being on Earth.

I think Rufus from the movie Dogma had the right idea -- have ideas, not beliefs (then again that movie was all around smart and interesting -- amazing considering it's freaking Kevin Smith, who I normally hate). Organized religion is a bad idea for the most part. While it does do a lot of good, it also causes more problems than it's worth.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Disch on 04/14/06 08:42 PM.</FONT></P>

soniczip
04-15-2006, 02:03 AM
> Coulda fooled me. Last I heard those who don't accept Jesus
> as their savior will not be saved.

God says "Love me with all thy heart, soul, strength, and mind; and thy neighbor as thyself." I'm not too great at the first part, so I try to follow "Love thy neighbor as thyself." I believe in christianity primarily because I think the Big Bang makes no sense (and scientologists are as bad as any bible beater.)

> I fucking hate religious scare tactics. Playing on people's
> fears and insecurities in order to sway their judgement is
> one of the qualifications for "evil" in my book.

Well, that's why I hate my Dad's bible beating tactics. "When they're in hell, they will all finally see that it was all a trick. They will burn forever more, without faces or memories." When he said that, I was expecting evil laughter.

> I don't think God would be such an ego maniac as to demand
> worship from every human being on Earth.

He doesn't. Jesus taught love for your neighbor. "Love your enemies. Do good to those who hate you. Bless those who despitefully use you. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Now, no one in the world can follow this with ease, so I just try my best not to stab my most hated enemies.
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mrfreeze
04-15-2006, 02:33 AM
I believe in christianity primarily because I
> think the Big Bang makes no sense (and scientologists are as
> bad as any bible beater.)
So wait. Just because the official scientific theory doesn't geld for you, you make the leap to "God must've done it"? You know one of the major things that people tend to forget about science is that "Absence of evidence/proving wrong of idea A doesn't mean that idea B is automatically true". In other words, even if it turns out the big bang was utter horseshit (which I don't really think will happen anytime soon but who knows) there would still be a huge number of other ways it could have happened that have nothing to do with God or any other type of creator.

Oh and I hope you meant scientists and just misspelled. Because any semi-sane person would agree that scientologists are crackpots.
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Disch
04-15-2006, 02:34 AM
> I try to follow "Love thy neighbor as thyself."

aka "don't be an asshole"

Yeah I try to follow that too... but that's not a religious teaching really... it's just common sense. One of the falsehoods I've run into many times in the past is the believe that those who are without religion are without morals. Which is a complete crock of shit -- the two have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

> I believe in christianity primarily because I
> think the Big Bang makes no sense (and scientologists are as
> bad as any bible beater.)

The difference between religion and science is that science tries to find an answer, all while knowing it never will. Whereas religion feeds you baseless answers swearing up and down that they're the truth, but in the end you must fall back to faith.

The Big Bang theory doesn't make a lot of sense to me either. Then again I don't know much about quantum physics or any of that other crap... it's all Greek to me. But there are a whole lot of things they teach in Sunday School that make far less sense. Some of those stories REALLY stretch the imagination -- yet many people take it to heart and never doubt it.

And again remember that it's a theory. They know they're wrong. They know they don't understand everything. They're not saying that's what happened, they're saying that's what could have happened. Science never speaks in absolute truths, that's what's so great about it. It always has room to grow -- always has room to evolve.

But the way I see it is... why do we need an answer for everything. People tend to freak out of they don't know what happens after they die... or how life began... or blah blah blah. Religion is a typically great way to get baby fed some easy-to-digest answers. However I find it best if we just accept that hey... there are some things we'll never know.

> Well, that's why I hate my Dad's bible beating tactics.
> "When they're in hell, they will all finally see that it was
> all a trick. They will burn forever more, without faces or
> memories." When he said that, I was expecting evil laughter.

Heh. Yep. I try to avoid people like that. To think I actually partially grew up with that (was raised Jehova's Witness until I was like 7 or 8 -- talk about religious scare tactics... damn!)

> He doesn't.

Sure he does. If not, then what are the first 3 Commandments about? They're all about "love me, follow me, obey me". Only 1 commandment says not to kill -- but he's got a whopping 3 to talk about how great a God he is. Ego maniac.
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soniczip
04-15-2006, 02:52 AM
> Sure he does. If not, then what are the first 3
> Commandments about? They're all about "love me, follow me,
> obey me". Only 1 commandment says not to kill -- but he's
> got a whopping 3 to talk about how great a God he is. Ego
> maniac.

He's got 4 commandments telling you what NOT to do with worshipping him, and 6 commandments dealing with "Loving thy neighbor as thyself.
I'm gonna shorten these, so....

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before god.
2. Thou shalt not make a graven image and worship it.
3. Thou shalt not say "God damnit"
4. Keep the sabbath holy and shit.
5. Honor thy mommy and thy daddy, 'cuz if you do, you'll live longer.
6. Don't kill people
7. Don't do lude things.
8. Don't steal shit
9. Don't lie, or if you want to take it literally, "Bear false witness against thy neighbor. "
10. Don't covet.

8 out of 10 commandments are "Do not" commandments. The sabbath commandment is pretty much a "Do not" commandment. The only one that says to do something is "Honor thy father and thy mother."
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CEpeep
04-15-2006, 02:55 AM
You don't need religion to tell you how to act.

"Act only upon that maxim through which you can at the same time will that it should become universal law" ~Immanuel Kant
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king killa
04-15-2006, 03:05 AM
Heh, below is my version.

.> 1. Thou shalt have no other gods before god.
.> 2. Thou shalt not make a graven image and worship it.
.> 3. Thou shalt not say "God damnit"
.> 4. Keep the sabbath holy and shit.
.> 5. Honor thy mommy and thy daddy, 'cuz if you do, you'll
.> live longer.
.> 6. Don't kill people
.> 7. Don't do lude things.
.> 8. Don't steal shit
.> 9. Don't lie, or if you want to take it literally, "Bear
.> false witness against thy neighbor. "
,> 10. Don't covet.

1. Love me and only ME
2. #1 reworded
3. Don't disrespect ME
4. Keep MY stories alive
5. Honor the people I created BEFORE you
6. Keep MY creations alive
7. Be good
8. Be good
9. Be good
10. I wish this said "Don't convert"
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soniczip
04-15-2006, 03:07 AM
> 1. Love me and only ME
> 2. #1 reworded
> 3. Don't disrespect ME
> 4. Keep MY stories alive
> 5. Honor the people I created BEFORE you
> 6. Keep MY creations alive
> 7. Be good
> 8. Be good
> 9. Be good
> 10. I wish this said "Don't convert"
>

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Edit: By the way, I have violated the first commandment, because I consider CEPeep a deity. HELL! BURN! AGONY! DIE!!
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Fla Flash
04-15-2006, 04:05 AM
The burning in hell thing has nothing to do with you worshipping Peep.
It has to do with you microwaving food in a gaming system.
I'll bet Sony's on that copyright right now.
Drive thru please.
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Diskeater
04-15-2006, 04:10 AM
I gotta say that everytime I read one of your posts, I think your sig is a part of what you are saying and I get a lil confused.

But thats me being dumb, so whatever.
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Dark Knight Kain
04-15-2006, 04:17 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr>

The Big Bang theory doesn't make a lot of sense to me either. Then again I don't know much about quantum physics or any of that other crap... it's all Greek to me.

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It doesn't make sense, period. You need some almighty creator for it to begin (Where did that matter come from in the first place?) and you need to break the laws of physics for it to work. I really think they should stop trying to get it to work and admit that, confined here on a tiny rock, they really don't know. As for quantum physics, I'm not going to pretend to know a damn thing outside of the most basic aspects, but to me it seems like it's a way to justify anything and everything we don't (or can't) understand. Particles in an atom move faster than our fastest computers can calculate? They must move randomly.
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Ugly Joe
04-15-2006, 04:47 AM
> I fucking hate religious scare tactics. Playing on people's
> fears and insecurities in order to sway their judgement is
> one of the qualifications for "evil" in my book.

I really don't get how "religious scare tactics" work on adults. I mean, if you tell an 8 year old that he'll burn forever in Hell if he doesn't believe in Jesus, then I can understand the kid being swayed. If you try that stuff on an adult, I don't see that as too persuasive an argument.

I'm convinced that if there's one thing the mature human mind can do, it's dismiss the concept of Hell. Non-Christians are convinced that they're not going to Hell since they believe "I'm a good person" or simply because they don't think it exists (though not all will dismiss Heaven as well).

The mature Christians that I know aren't fearful of their every thought and action because of Hell. To them, it's all about having a relationship with God. They don't maintain that relationship because they think they'll go to Hell otherwise, they do it because it's a relationship they want to be in.

The few adults that I've seen converted (seriously, who chose that word...) didn't do it because they suddenly believed that they were going to go to Hell. They did it because they lived a secular life and they found that it really really sucked. They saw Christians who weren't doing the things that they were doing and who appeared to be enjoying their life quite a bit more, so they decided to give religion a chance.

I just really can't see adults succumbing to the fear of Hell. Adults choose to be Christian because they want a better life and they see their religion as a way of getting it. If there's an adult out there who believes in Christianity simply because they were frightened into it when they were young, then they still have *a lot* of growing up to do.
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Disch
04-15-2006, 05:05 AM
> You need some almighty creator for it to begin (Where did that matter come from in
> the first place?)

You can trace everything back to a "where did it come from" question. Even God had to come from somewhere. It's just as easy to assume the Universe always was as it is to assume God always was. Yet somehow that doesn't occur to people.

> and you need to break the laws of physics
> for it to work.

It wouldn't be the first time. The thing about science (physics) is that it's just observations which can be proven through re-enactment. It's very possible the laws of physics are WRONG... and in fact I'm certain most of them are. Or rather... it's not so much that they're wrong as it is they're only right under certain circumstances.

You can try to solve an equation knowing only some of the variables... and you'll get a result which is more or less predictable. Doing the math backwards from your solution to "double-check" your problem will show you that you did the problem correctly under the assumptions you made. However that all changes as a new variable is introduced, and it throws the whole equation out of whack.

Existing science makes a lot of assumptions based on observation. We can only observe so much -- there are some things we can't predict, forsee, or even understand. Those are the unknown variables which leave holes and room for error in our understanding.

Quantum Physics, for example, plays by a whole different set of rules. And following those rules, it's possible to bypass some of the "normal" laws of physics.

> I really think they should stop trying to
> get it to work and admit that, confined here on a tiny rock,
> they really don't know.

Umm... it's a THEORY. Re-read my earlier post. They're not claiming that's what happened... they're saying that's what <u>could have</u> happened. They know they're wrong. And they know it's not absolute.

But does that mean they should stop trying to learn? I certainly don't think so. Science is just an endless quest for knowledge and understanding. The impossible goal is to be able to predict everything by understanding the behavior of everything. Of course we'll never understand everything, but the more we understand, the better off we'll be.

> As for quantum physics, I'm not going to pretend to know a damn thing outside of the most
> basic aspects, but to me it seems like it's a way to justify
> anything and everything we don't (or can't) understand.
> Particles in an atom move faster than our fastest computers
> can calculate? They must move randomly.

I don't know much about it myself. But I'd imagine it's just like any other science. Hypothesise, Experiement, Observe, Conclude. When you're able to reliably reproduce X behavior, you're that much closer to understanding it.
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Disch
04-15-2006, 05:20 AM
> I really don't get how "religious scare tactics" work on
> adults. [snip] If you try that stuff on
> an adult, I don't see that as too persuasive an argument.

I'm sure people aren't living in fear of going to hell. And I'm sure it's not the only motivating factor for their beliefs. But it's still some kind a motivating factor. Whether or not its absence would have made the difference isn't really my point. The mere fact that you're threatened into doing something appauls me. Even if it's something you'd do anyway... or even want to do.... to say that if you don't do it you're going to burn in hell for eternity? Give me a fucking break.

I'm still freaked out by the term "God-fearing" and how it's used as a POSITIVE thing. IE to call someone God-fearing being a complient. Fuck that. You shouldn't have anything to fear from God.

> I'm convinced that if there's one thing the mature human
> mind can do, it's dismiss the concept of Hell.

I find the concept of Hell no easier to dismiss than any other divine or religious concept. It's all just as supernatural and all just as ridiculous.

> To them, it's all about having a relationship with God. They don't maintain
> that relationship because they think they'll go to Hell
> otherwise, they do it because it's a relationship they want
> to be in.

I never meant to say religion is without merits. It definately has its upsides. Though I generally find it to be good for the individual, but bad for the masses. And like I said... the downsides associated with organized religion really don't make up for its perks in my book.
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SwampGas
04-15-2006, 05:57 AM
> Christianity is so fucking retarded.

Agree 100000000000%. When someone uses the phrase "good christian" when describing someone, I don't trust them.

Generic reply to all:

- There is no "hell", as in devil with pitchfork poking your ass for all eternity.

- Life isn't about spreading the word of Gd by converting everyone you meet and condemning those who refuse.

- A particular goodie: the 'cross', images of jesus and confession. I will never, repeat, NEVER, confess anything to another human and have him absolve me of sin; nor will I kneel for another human or an idol (cross).

- Make a mockery of the sanctuary by running around singing and dancing, applauding for people or (what pissed me off the most when attending a church) wearing torn jeans and a dirty t-shirt.

- When praying, you do so directly to Gd. Not an angel, not a dead relative, not that jesus guy, not the supposed mother. He will delegate as necessary to accomplish the job.

- Another word for the 'trinity' is paganism. The transliteration sucks, but it goes something like "shema yisrael adonai eloheinu adonai achad," which means "hear o israel the Lord is our Gd the Lord is <u>ONE</u>. And doesn't the 10 commandments state there will be no other gods?

christianity is control. It's comparable to those amway meetings...they meet once per week to talk about how great <strike>the product</strike> Gd is, what amazing things will happen <strike>a year later</strike> in the afterlife if you abide by these 10 <strike>standards of selling</strike> commandments. Then every summer they have a big gathering of fun and excitement to talk about their non-existent success, rationalized by 10 very wealthy people (aka people high up in the church) encouraging them to stick with the program. You MUST convert X amount of people otherwise you're a bad member.

Do me a favor and show me these type of flaws in judaism. Especially the intolerance to other religions and converting people part.
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Diskeater
04-15-2006, 06:12 AM
Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on Christian Zionism, if any?
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Mikey
04-15-2006, 12:04 PM
> Do me a favor and show me these type of flaws in judaism.
> Especially the intolerance to other religions and converting
> people part.

I'd say the flaws are more in those who interpret what Christianity was originally meant to be.

Some believe that Christ was meant to be merely a path to God. That is to say, believers should strive to reach the ideals that he personified, and not to worship him personally. The goal being to live for the ideals that he taught, in order to serve God.

But, of course, the vast majority* of Christian sects have misinterpreted Christ's purpose and opted to worship him directly.

<font size="1">*The "vast majority being wrong" is a statistical fact, when considering that only one of them could truly be right.</font>
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juggaleaux
04-15-2006, 12:36 PM
> - Life isn't about spreading the word of Gd...
> - When praying, you do so directly to Gd.
> ...israel the Lord is our Gd the Lord is ONE.
> ...the product Gd...

why do you spell God this way?

I'm not trying to troll or anything. I really am curious.

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Mr. Saturn
04-15-2006, 04:33 PM
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SwampGas
04-15-2006, 05:28 PM
> why do you spell God this way?

Because if someone were to print the page, I don't want the name disrespected.
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Fla Flash
04-16-2006, 03:41 AM
Our founding fathers had a less than favorable view on religion....including Washington, and most notably, Ben Franklin.
Franklin once wrote, "I don't believe Jesus is the son of God. I believe in his ideas.

The 9th Sage
04-16-2006, 05:47 AM
> It doesn't make sense, period. You need some almighty
> creator for it to begin (Where did that matter come from in
> the first place?)

Well...this'll probably sound stupid, but it could just have existed. Heh, I knew it would sound weird, I can't explain my thought on this too well. It's not like anyone will really ever truly know anyway with no doubt how the universe 'started'.
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04-16-2006, 05:50 AM
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Narvick
04-19-2006, 03:14 AM
The Book of Judas is not cosidered canonical by any stretch of the imagination.
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Narvick
04-19-2006, 03:29 AM
Oh wow. This needs to be addressed.

- Agree 100000000000%. When someone uses the phrase "good
- christian" when describing someone, I don't trust them.
Every person, whether Christian or not, is a sinner in the eyes of the Lord.

- Generic reply to all:
-
- - There is no "hell", as in devil with pitchfork poking your
- ass for all eternity.
Hell is mentioned in the Bible many times, by God in the OT and Jesus in the NT as well as the prophets.

- - Life isn't about spreading the word of Gd by converting
- everyone you meet and condemning those who refuse.
Christians are commanded in the Great Commission to make disciples of all nations. Don't get me wrong though, a lot of people do it very if not completely wrong.

- - A particular goodie: the 'cross', images of jesus and
- confession. I will never, repeat, NEVER, confess anything
- to another human and have him absolve me of sin; nor will I
- kneel for another human or an idol (cross).
You confess your sins to God. Jesus died for your sins and nowhere does it state you need to kneel before anything to do so.

- - Make a mockery of the sanctuary by running around singing
- and dancing, applauding for people or (what pissed me off
- the most when attending a church) wearing torn jeans and a
- dirty t-shirt.
Church has gotten pretty secular here in the last while, but God doesn't care what you wear to church. Dancing and applauding are different issues...what kind of church did you go to? Pentecostal?

- - When praying, you do so directly to Gd. Not an angel, not
- a dead relative, not that jesus guy, not the supposed
- mother. He will delegate as necessary to accomplish the
- job.
Yes, dead relatives cannot hear prayers, nor angels. Only God, praying to Jesus is the same as God and Jesus are the same entity.

- - Another word for the 'trinity' is paganism. The
- transliteration sucks, but it goes something like "shema
- yisrael adonai eloheinu adonai achad," which means "hear o
- israel the Lord is our Gd the Lord is ONE. And doesn't the
- 10 commandments state there will be no other gods?
Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit are one being. The trinity is one of
the absolute most fundamental beliefs of Christianity.

- christianity is control. It's comparable to those amway
- meetings...they meet once per week to talk about how great
- the product Gd is, what amazing things will happen a year
- later in the afterlife if you abide by these 10 standards of
- selling commandments. Then every summer they have a big
- gathering of fun and excitement to talk about their
- non-existent success, rationalized by 10 very wealthy people
- (aka people high up in the church) encouraging them to stick
- with the program. You MUST convert X amount of people
- otherwise you're a bad member.
That type of church is a corrupt church, if you ask me. That kind of church is certainly not what God intended. The church today is highly flawed. Personally, I don't go to church for reasons just like this. It's not supposed to be a social club, but everyone seems to make it that way (especially here in the south)

- Do me a favor and show me these type of flaws in judaism.
- Especially the intolerance to other religions and converting
- people part.

Christianity and Judaism are incompatible religions. Jews are not Christians.

If you want the truth, you need to read the Bible. No matter what anyone else says about anything, it all goes back to the Bible. And if you study it enough, you'll come to realize just about everything mainstream society is exposed to about Christianity is a lie.
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phonymike
04-19-2006, 03:46 AM
the main problem with judaism is that you have to be a tight ass money grubbing jew to get in. plus I've never met a black jew, I would assume jews don't want blacks in their religion.

in my opionion I'd rather be a christian than a jew. at least that way you have tons of people around to chat about it any time you want (like all those white trash people who voted for bush.) and because most people think jews are tight ass money grubbing jews so why pick a religion that most people hate anyway.
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The 9th Sage
04-19-2006, 03:47 AM
> Church has gotten pretty secular here in the last while, but
> God doesn't care what you wear to church. Dancing and
> applauding are different issues...what kind of church did
> you go to? Pentecostal?

So God doesn't like dancing and applauding? I would think any god would be happy to see his followers worshipping in a way that is truly joyful.
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SwampGas
04-19-2006, 03:53 AM
Because everything you say about Jews is true. We're more educated and successful than the average joe...therefore, we know how to handle money and have plenty in reserve.

I believe the proper word for that comeback is.....PWNT. <img src=smilies/thumb.gif>
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Diskeater
04-19-2006, 04:48 AM
> I believe the proper word for that comeback is.....PWNT.

And you control the media and the banks and whatnot, apparently.

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Narvick
04-19-2006, 07:30 PM
> So God doesn't like dancing and applauding? I would think
> any god would be happy to see his followers worshipping in a
> way that is truly joyful.
>

Some churches applaud after a performance or after some other event. This issue splits people sometimes. The main argument is that you do
not applaud for something in a church after a performance because the
performance was to God, not for your entertainment. Some sects believe dancing is sinful (some fundamentalists) in any form. Some Churches of Christ believe that any dancing or musical instruments used in worship is inappropriate.

It's inside you that really counts whether or not you're doing these things inappropriately.
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Vampire hunter D
04-19-2006, 08:55 PM
> Some sects believe dancing is sinful (some fundamentalists) in
> any form.

I know someone like that, I even told him that David once danced for the lord, but he still says dancing is wrong. His reason is "How do you know what dance is wrong, and what dance is right? Would God be appreciative of you doing the pelvic thrust for him?". Personally, I don't see getting excited and dancing a bit in honor of God offensive in the slightest bit. Unless you did that stupid dance where you squat down and shake your ass, I HATE that "dance". I use the term dance loosly, because it looks like someone created it when they were trying to take a dump and couldn't get it out so they started wiggling.

Some Churches of Christ believe that any dancing
> or musical instruments used in worship is inappropriate.

I find that ridiculous. But I'm not them, so whatever.

> It's inside you that really counts whether or not you're
> doing these things inappropriately.

Agreed.

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SwampGas
04-19-2006, 10:46 PM
> And you control the media and the banks and whatnot,
> apparently.

Media....we spread FUD. That spells control. While people argue and fight over pointless crap, we continue our conquest of world domination.

Banks...we already covered money <img src=smilies/cwm11.gif>
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phonymike
04-20-2006, 02:33 AM
world domination, racism, supremacist attitude. you sound like a hitler wannabe. maybe he was on to something after all... <img src=smilies/upeyes.gif>
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SpaceTiger
04-20-2006, 07:21 AM
If I were a Jew, I'd put a propeller on my yarmulke. That would rule.
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SwampGas
04-20-2006, 06:19 PM
> world domination, racism, supremacist attitude. you sound
> like a hitler wannabe. maybe he was on to something after
> all...

It's the ultimate irony, ain't it?
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JadussD
04-20-2006, 08:47 PM
> http://www.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/national/judastxt.pdf
>
> Lot of hoopla about this, but I haven't seen a link to the
> actual text. Haven't read it yet but I had trouble finding
> it when I looked before, so on the off-chance that someone
> wants to read it, here it is.

So to sum up this thread:

[Ancient esoteric Christian text summons forth demons of discord]

Branch 1:

- Christianity sucks
- Judaism rules
- Judaism sucks
- Judaism is an esoteric religion for the Jewish people
- SwampGas is Hitler
- LOLLERCAUST:
- You don't understand Christianity
- Christianity rules
- Christianity still sucks anyways
- Dancing sucks.
- Dancing rules.
- Here is an explanation of dancing and Christianity
- It's all in your heart bro!

I couldn't have predicted this outcome if I tried.
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Diskeater
04-20-2006, 08:55 PM
> - SwampGas is Hitler

Hey man, the post was clearly "Swampgas wants to be Hitler." Try and get that right next time.

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The 9th Sage
04-21-2006, 02:51 AM
> It's inside you that really counts

Well yes, that's true of anything though, not just religon.

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phonymike
04-21-2006, 06:28 PM
> It's the ultimate irony, ain't it?

no, it's just funny when you see a stereotype become real. this guy was hired into my previous job as a manager. he wasn't an asshole, he wasn't rude, you just knew something was shitty about him. turns out he's a jew. nobody liked him, and I told people "he gives jews a bad name" because I assumed jews can't all act like this. after a week he was let go, what a dolt.

and here you are acting in the same exact manner. I'd rather hang out with a bible thumping bitch than hang out with a jew. that's the problem with judaism, nobody likes you guys.
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Disch
04-21-2006, 09:55 PM
Goddamn I hate seeing a combination of ignorance and hate.

Unless you have some super-human jew radar ability which subconciously and uncontrollably makes you hate jews, you're full of shit. If you didn't like the guy, it was either because of something else not listed (was he condescending? arrogant?) or because of your own prejudices. The thing about this though.... is that if it's the latter, you're an asshole... but if it's the former, blaming it on him being a jew makes it a combination with the latter, which still makes you an asshole.

Seriously... think about what you just said in that post. You scapegoated an entire denomination because you didn't get along with one guy. I swear it's like you flashed back to Nazi Germany.
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CEpeep
04-21-2006, 10:16 PM
> world domination, racism, supremacist attitude. you sound
> like a hitler wannabe. maybe he was on to something after
> all...
>

http://www.zophar.net/wwwthreads/attachment.php?Cat=&Board=backroom&Post=284447

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Vampire hunter D
04-22-2006, 12:57 AM
Bwahahahahahahhahahaha.... Damn that picture's funny.
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The 9th Sage
04-22-2006, 04:07 AM
> this guy was hired into my previous job as a manager. he
> wasn't an asshole, he wasn't rude, you just knew something
> was shitty about him. turns out he's a jew. nobody liked
> him, and I told people "he gives jews a bad name" because I
> assumed jews can't all act like this.

So he wasn't an ass, he wasn't rude...so the problem was what exactly? <img src=smilies/retard.gif>
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SpaceTiger
04-22-2006, 10:47 AM
> Unless you have some super-human jew radar ability

He certainly has a gift for trolling, at least. Whatever his reasons for posting things like that, I get the impression there's some serious personality disorder shit going down here.
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