she called

[SwampGas]

she keeps calling me...stupid excuses to talk to me.

but this morning she called me at the station (where i am now). she wants to still be my friend.

i totally let her have it. all the hurt and suffering i've been going through the last few days...man...if the former zd staffers thought my verbal abuse was bad, that was nothing. i was practically foaming at the mouth after this. i let it all out.

i finally asked "why did you get the tattoo?"

and in a sobbing, timid voice she says "i guess it was a test to see if you'd actually leave".

after that, i screamed "OF COURSE I WOULD. I'VE BEEN SAYING IT SINCE BEFORE WE EVEN WENT OUT. YOU'RE NOTHING TO ME NOW..A COMPLETE PIECE OF TRASH. FORGET LOWER CLASS. YOU'RE BELOW THAT..YOU'RE THE DIRT I WALK ON. I HAVE TO GO BYE." *click*

hasn't called back yet. i'm still SO hurt by this...i'll never get over her...

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[SwampGas]

i'm home now...6am.

she calls.

"hey. i have some stuff for you can i drop it off?"

"no. go away"

"look i'm just gonna fucking leave it in your mail box if you don't take it"

and i proceeded to hang up.

she's such a piece of trash now. filthy mouth, filthy body, filthy everything. god help her to get back to the way she used to be.

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[icenine0]

DO NOT get sucked into that shit again.

> i'm home now...6am.
>
> she calls.
>
> "hey. i have some stuff for you can i drop it off?"
>
> "no. go away"
>
> "look i'm just gonna fucking leave it in your mail box if
> you don't take it"
>
> and i proceeded to hang up.
>
> she's such a piece of trash now. filthy mouth, filthy body,
> filthy everything. god help her to get back to the way she
> used to be.
>


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[SwampGas]

> Also, from my interpratation, you have had some pretty
> immature reasons for breaking up with her, I know it's the
> principal and all, but if you truely loved her as much as
> you're saying, you wouldn't care what she did to her body,
> as long as it's not hurting her (Alchohol, drugs, wounds and
> such) I would stop her from damage, but if she wants to get
> piercings or tatoos, why do you care? You need to think this
> over some more, I can tell you love her, you are just angry,
> and unstable right now. I would call her and say, " wanna be
> with you, I love you, but we need to stop acting this way
> towards eachother, visible things will not change my love
> inside you, just I wish you wouldn't do it. We need a little
> time away from eachother, I say two weeks, to see if we DO
> truely love eachother, and just to relax. No phone calls, no
> physical contact, no voice message or text messages. And
> afterwards if we are still together, we should see a
> counciler, I'll talk to you in two weeks."

i DO NOT want to be with someone who does those things. simple as that. she admitted the ONLY reason why she did it was because i didn't want her to. as a test.

THAT is not love. THAT is fucked up.

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[Octocrook]

> > > Also, from my interpratation, you have had some pretty
> > > immature reasons for breaking up with her, I know it's
> the
> >
> > > principal and all, but if you truely loved her as much
> as
> > > you're saying, you wouldn't care what she did to her
> body,
> >
> > > as long as it's not hurting her (Alchohol, drugs, wounds
>
> > and
> > > such) I would stop her from damage, but if she wants to
> > get
> > > piercings or tatoos, why do you care? You need to think
> > this
> > > over some more, I can tell you love her, you are just
> > angry,
> > > and unstable right now. I would call her and say, "
> wanna
> > be
> > > with you, I love you, but we need to stop acting this
> way
> > > towards eachother, visible things will not change my
> love
> > > inside you, just I wish you wouldn't do it. We need a
> > little
> > > time away from eachother, I say two weeks, to see if we
> DO
> >
> > > truely love eachother, and just to relax. No phone
> calls,
> > no
> > > physical contact, no voice message or text messages. And
>
> > > afterwards if we are still together, we should see a
> > > counciler, I'll talk to you in two weeks."
> >
> > i DO NOT want to be with someone who does those things.
> > simple as that. she admitted the ONLY reason why she did
> it
> > was because i didn't want her to. as a test.
> >
> > THAT is not love. THAT is fucked up.
> >
>
> Yeah, y'see a test. If you did love her, you wouldn't really
> care. If I were you I'd be like, "I really wish you didn't
> do that, you know I told you not to, and I told you before
> that I'd break up with you if you did. I won't though, but
> if you test me like this again, I will break up with you and
> never talk to you again, besides to say fuck off."
>
> It may be fucked up what she did, but it's her body, you're
> being too possessive. If I were a girl and some guy said
> "I'll break up with you if you get a tatoo." I'd say "Oh
> really? How about we break up now, you cock?"
>

So then....if your girlfriend had a horrible headache and she decided she wanted to take a big bottle of tylenol pills to "relieve it", you'd let her? It's her body.

Would you let your girlfriend be a cokefreak? Needle junkie? Would you let her self-mutilate herself? Would you let her down a 40 of jack in less than an hour? I can go on and on. It's her body, it's her mind, she can do whatever she wants. Seriously, everyone has their limits, and you should respect them! Sam's limits might be stricter than some, but that doesn't mean he isn't allowed to have them. If she really loved him, she would have listened to him for the 2 years they had been going out. She obviously didn't listen if that whole time, he was so obviously against tattoos and piercings. Doing something just to see if it will piss him off isn't love. The people I hate most are the people who see if they can piss me off.

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[Isildur]

> > Also, from my interpratation, you have had some pretty
> > immature reasons for breaking up with her, I know it's the
> > principal and all, but if you truely loved her as much as
> > you're saying, you wouldn't care what she did to her body,
> > as long as it's not hurting her (Alchohol, drugs, wounds and
> > such) I would stop her from damage, but if she wants to get
> > piercings or tatoos, why do you care? You need to think this
> > over some more, I can tell you love her, you are just angry,
> > and unstable right now. I would call her and say, " wanna be
> > with you, I love you, but we need to stop acting this way
> > towards eachother, visible things will not change my love
> > inside you, just I wish you wouldn't do it. We need a little
> > time away from eachother, I say two weeks, to see if we DO
> > truely love eachother, and just to relax. No phone calls, no
> > physical contact, no voice message or text messages. And
> > afterwards if we are still together, we should see a
> > counciler, I'll talk to you in two weeks."
>
> i DO NOT want to be with someone who does those things.
> simple as that. she admitted the ONLY reason why she did it
> was because i didn't want her to. as a test.
>
> THAT is not love. THAT is fucked up.
>

Agreed.

Sezeroth, if <u>she</u> loved him, she wouldn't "test" <u>his</u> love.

Anyone woman who pulls that kind of crap is just selfish: she only cares about how attached the guy is to her, and couldn't care less whether her stupid games are tearing him in two.
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(Just so no one mistakes me for a misogynist: Obviously, the same goes for any man who does that to a woman.)

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[GamerX]

Bottom line - A relationship isn't just about "love." It irritates me whenever I hear someone say "well, yeah, she cheated on me, but I still LOVE her." Whoopdy-fucking-doo. A relationship is just that - a RELATIONSHIP. It needs to have mutual respect, trust, honesty, and cooperation. Yes, love is important, but not more important than any of those other things.

Sam - she obviously does not respect you (or she wouldn't have done something you were so adamant about her not doing). She doesn't trust you (or she wouldn't have to 'test' your love). She seems like an honest girl, but uh, not the type of honesty I'd want to hear. And she obviously has no IDEA how to compromise with you. Trash her and don't look back. Not because she got a fucking tattoo - that's immature - but because of what that tattoo represents.

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[GamerX]

For your sake I hope you NEVER get married. Your wife will push you around constantly. She'll be sleeping with another guy within a month. Hey, maybe that'll be a 'test' too.

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[Danoz]

> Bottom line - A relationship isn't just about "love." It
> irritates me whenever I hear someone say "well, yeah, she
> cheated on me, but I still LOVE her." Whoopdy-fucking-doo.
> A relationship is just that - a RELATIONSHIP. It needs to
> have mutual respect, trust, honesty, and cooperation. Yes,
> love is important, but not more important than any of those
> other things.
>
> Sam - she obviously does not respect you (or she wouldn't
> have done something you were so adamant about her not
> doing). She doesn't trust you (or she wouldn't have to
> 'test' your love). She seems like an honest girl, but uh,
> not the type of honesty I'd want to hear. And she obviously
> has no IDEA how to compromise with you. Trash her and don't
> look back. Not because she got a fucking tattoo - that's
> immature - but because of what that tattoo represents.
>
Exactly. Look at the time of your life you will never get back, don't waste another hour on her. Like that time I watched "Harriet the Spy" while babysitting 3 baby cousins for free... I will never get those hours of my life back, and it haunts me to this day. So I've decided to live 3 extra hours... that's slightly off subject though.

SwampGas: You'll get over her man. She's just trying to take a piece of your life, don't let her.

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[shawn]

Good for you Sam, girls who do that testing shit are usually confused about who they are and besides the whole foundation of love is trust and just by testing you like that proved she didn't trust you, find a beautiful woman that has faith in your feelings and judgement and put this part of your life behind you. :)

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[SwampGas]

> In my honest opinion Sam u did the right thing.. A
> relationship should not be based on tests (and i don't think
> that her reason for a tattoo was logical) I considered it to
> be an excuse and as coolieranx (i think i spelt it right)
> said don't drag yourself with her..

1) no tattoos = YOU CAN DIE FROM IT! ever hear of hepetitus? aids? hiv? not only does it scar and ruin the perfect body, but it can kill you. don't give me this "they sterilize the needles" crap. pamela anderson, in all her hollywood and agent protection, got hepetitus from it.
2) no smoking = YOU CAN DIE FROM IT! no explanation required.
3) no drinking = she cannot handle it. she's on medication, plus she's never been able to handle it in the past. every time she does, she fucks up.
4) no "clubbing" and that bullshit = YOU'RE IN A SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP! why would you go flaunt yourself to other guys? pfft...please.

i would say i have very valid reasons.

of course, today wasn't as bad as previous days...i have my moments of freedom and integrity again. but i still feel like bawling.

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[SwampGas]

you don't have the background.

1) she's already cheated on me 3 times
2) she flirts with every guy she sees
3) i don't want some other guy touching MY girl.

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[GamerX]

> 1) she's already cheated on me 3 times

It never should have gotten past one. That's your bad. You've given her waaaaaaaay more chances than she deserves. How can you honestly MISS that? Don't say that the good outweighed the bad. There shouldn't ever have to be anything THAT bad to outweigh in a relationship. In a month (if you don't cave again) you'll realize that her tattoo was the best thing that ever happened - because it will have made you finally wake up.

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[shawn]

> 1) no tattoos = YOU CAN DIE FROM IT! ever hear of
> hepetitus? aids? hiv? not only does it scar and ruin the
> perfect body, but it can kill you. don't give me this "they
> sterilize the needles" crap. pamela anderson, in all her
> hollywood and agent protection, got hepetitus from it.

Right, tattoos, more likely her and Tommy Lee were booting coke with someone else and a shared needle, and that tattoo story was probably for PR purposes, hell Motley Crue was going through millions of dollars worth of coke during the 80's. :)

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