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JadussD
12-21-2005, 10:52 PM
I'm against Christianity, utterly, but I also believe that reality should be adhered to:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

The key word here is....Congress.

I hate to add fuel to the fire, but If we are to take the constitution literally, guess what this means?

It means that anyone who isn't congress (ie, the states) are theoretically free to pass any law respecting religion that they want, and that they also can tell us what to say, and where we can assemble.

Shitty :(
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Dark Knight Kain
12-22-2005, 01:37 AM
I'm not really opposed to creationism as long as they don't stop teaching evolution. Put it this way, creationism consists of "God created everything", that's not even a minute of bullshit. Of course, I'm sure they'll stretch it out to a year-long thing...
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The 9th Sage
12-22-2005, 02:34 AM
> I'm not really opposed to creationism as long as they don't
> stop teaching evolution. Put it this way, creationism
> consists of "God created everything", that's not even a
> minute of bullshit. Of course, I'm sure they'll stretch it
> out to a year-long thing...

The whole argument brings to mind the http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/scopes/scopes.htmScopes Monkey Trial</a> for me whenever I hear about it on the news. I wonder if this will have any influence on the proceedings?
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SpaceTiger
12-22-2005, 02:41 AM
> I'm not really opposed to creationism as long as they don't
> stop teaching evolution. Put it this way, creationism
> consists of "God created everything", that's not even a
> minute of bullshit. Of course, I'm sure they'll stretch it
> out to a year-long thing...

The problem is not with teaching kids about creationism, it's with miseducating them about science. "Creation science" is not science because they're just setting out to prove something that they've already decided is true. It's based on faith and tradition. It's based on spirituality. Hell, I think they're even doing themselves a disservice treating it like science. It simply does not belong in a science class alongside evolution. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be taught in social studies or sunday school, just that it has an entirely different purpose and structure from something we study with the scientific method.

Technically, these creationists should have learned that in grade school, but I suspect they weren't paying attention.
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Dark Knight Kain
12-22-2005, 10:05 AM
> The problem is not with teaching kids about creationism, it's with miseducating them about science.

Oh, I agree, it's just some things aren't worth fighting. Like I said, creationism consist of a single phrase, there's no more you can teach than that phrase, no matter how hard you try.
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