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punjman
08-20-2005, 05:57 PM
What in the hell is the deal with people naming stuff so retardedly? I got tons of ROMs for a Visualboy Advance, and they are all named

"castlevania - circle of the moon _us_proper)js@#3w23ssworthlessinformation>>>erughsert/.zip"

and there's about 3 copies of each and every damn game!

I mean seriously, if you're going to have a collection of ROMs available for download, why not name them normally?

Metroid Fusion US.zip
Castlevania CotM US.zip
Metroid Zero Mission US.zip

Is it that hard? Now I have to install a renamer and remove all of the worthless junk that's put in front of these names, and find all of the worthless copies of games that are in freakin Portuguese or Hindu and delete them.

Wren
08-20-2005, 06:06 PM
I like the convention of...

ActRaiser (J).jma
Another World (E).jma
Axelay (U).jma

But that's mostly because I see a lot of SFC and MD ROMs named that way.

-Wren

Mephistopheles
08-20-2005, 06:36 PM
> I like the convention of...
>
> ActRaiser (J).jma
> Another World (E).jma
> Axelay (U).jma

That's the way CherryROMs always did it... seems to be the best.

I think the problem is that a lot of servers, to protect their sources, tend to use CGI scripts to link you to your destination file. So, when you download it, the filename gets mangled somehow. Come to think of it, that wouldn't even explain it... I think the people who rip ROms are just really, really lazy-ass retards sometimes...

sephiroth111
08-21-2005, 01:55 AM
> Is it that hard? Now I have to install a renamer and remove
> all of the worthless junk that's put in front of these
> names, and find all of the worthless copies of games that
> are in freakin Portuguese or Hindu and delete them.

the goodset is named worthless. the GBAREN version is better. the numbers are really really great. (really easy to remember) but i digress.

Kitsune Sniper
08-21-2005, 02:20 AM
> the goodset is named worthless. the GBAREN version is
> better. the numbers are really really great. (really easy to
> remember) but i digress.

Well, it would be really good if only the people behind the numbered romsets would NOT ALLOW FUCKING HACKED INTROED ROMS.

That seriously pisses the shit outta me.

The 9th Sage
08-21-2005, 03:56 AM
> Come to think of it, that wouldn't
> even explain it... I think the people who rip ROms are just
> really, really lazy-ass retards sometimes...

Nevermind the fact that they're just pirates out to get their names published first for the most part.

Lillymon
08-21-2005, 06:34 PM
> the goodset is named worthless. the GBAREN version is
> better. the numbers are really really great. (really easy to
> remember) but i digress.

I hate those numbers.

"OK, so I'm looking for Metroid Zero Mission, now I'll just look at the 'M' ROMs and... DAMMIT!"

Ugly Joe
08-21-2005, 07:02 PM
Is it really that big of a deal? I mean, oh no, you have to load three whole roms just to find the game you want. Is that really too big a price to pay in order to not shell out $30 for a gba game?

Kitsune Sniper
08-21-2005, 08:05 PM
> Is it really that big of a deal? I mean, oh no, you have to
> load three whole roms just to find the game you want. Is
> that really too big a price to pay in order to not shell out
> $30 for a gba game?

$30? Where? The three games mentioned routinely go for $50 or more, USED. ;_;

punjman
08-21-2005, 08:14 PM
Oh I'd say it's a big enough deal to be annoyed. Do I really need 10 copies of a game? I could understand TWO copies, a US and a JPN version, but 10? come on. Here's a quick example of some of the 6 gigs of Genesis ROMs I have.

C:Serverxampphtdocszopharoldwwwthreadsattachmentsg enesis.jpg

Kitsune Sniper
08-21-2005, 08:31 PM
> Oh I'd say it's a big enough deal to be annoyed. Do I
> really need 10 copies of a game? I could understand TWO
> copies, a US and a JPN version, but 10? come on. Here's a
> quick example of some of the 6 gigs of Genesis ROMs I have.

That's Cowering's fault. He's the one that adds all those roms in his goodtools.

MegaManJuno
08-21-2005, 09:28 PM
Although, you may already be aware of this from reading the Cowering docs on the ROM nomenclature meanings, it's worthwhile to mention for those who don't know as well.

First off, delete all the worthless overdumps ([o1], [o2], etc.) and bad dumps ([b1], [b2], etc.]). There's really no point in keeping them (especially the bad dumps). I still to this day don't understand the people who collect those on purpose... and furthermore, bother to include them in the renamer listings in the first place...? Why anyone would want an improperly dumped image just occupying space is beyond me. <img src=smilies/retard.gif>

That right there will cut down the number of ROMs in your list tremendously, not to mention some of the others you can discard right offhand too if you don't care about them. Trained ([t1], [t2], etc.) (also worthless in my opinion), hacks ([h1], [h2], etc.) that don't bother to specify what was hacked (if it's a worthwhile hack, it's bound to list a different name, or something specific that was hacked... hell, even not-so-worthwhile ones specify in a lot of cases), & translated ([T-whatever] or [T+whatever]) come to mind (at least for translations to languages you don't speak anyway).

RaiBlastoise
08-21-2005, 09:50 PM
I got an SNES collection in which every game had the correct name, but the extensions were all deleted. No double-clicking on them! Also, there are 20 or so "games" that are just hentai pics where you press "B" to go to the next pic. What's worse, they're already on CD.

Kitsune Sniper
08-21-2005, 10:00 PM
There's a few "bad dumps" that are actually the correct dumps.

I think one of the RBI Baseballs that GoodNES marks as bad is a proper dump. Not sure which.

punjman
08-21-2005, 10:16 PM
> Although, you may already be aware of this from reading the
> Cowering docs on the ROM nomenclature meanings, it's
> worthwhile to mention for those who don't know as well.


Actually I didn't know this, so I'll keep this in mind. Thanks for the info.

The 9th Sage
08-22-2005, 02:27 AM
> There's a few "bad dumps" that are actually the correct
> dumps.
>
> I think one of the RBI Baseballs that GoodNES marks as bad
> is a proper dump. Not sure which.

Probably are a few...some of the Good sets have some weird stuff. For example, I downloaded a ROM that was supposed to be the japanese version of Illusion of Gaia (by the GoodSNES name)...but it was a beta version of the US version. O_o What the hell is up with that? I mean, it's so obvious that's what it is if you play it for a second.

The 9th Sage
08-22-2005, 02:28 AM
> $30? Where? The three games mentioned routinely go for $50
> or more, USED. ;_;

What games are they?

king killa
08-22-2005, 02:42 AM
REN * *.smc

oh wait, you use mac, don't you?

RaiBlastoise
08-22-2005, 03:32 AM
> REN * *.smc

Thanks, I could just make that in a batch and run it from Windows.
I just don't want to copy the collection off the CDs.

> oh wait, you use man, don't you?
Huh? Are you referring to Mandrake Linux? I use Windows.

king killa
08-22-2005, 03:45 AM
> oh wait, you use man, don't you?
> Huh? Are you referring to Mandrake Linux? I use Windows.
>

I meant mac. I fixed my post.

RaiBlastoise
08-22-2005, 03:47 AM
And even so, there's still AppleScript.

Kitsune Sniper
08-22-2005, 03:56 AM
> What games are they?

Whoops, sorry.

Metroid Fusion US.zip
Castlevania CotM US.zip
Metroid Zero Mission US.zip

They go for $30 cart only, and a shitload more complete. >_<

And I know there's cheap copies on eBay... but 90% of those are bootlegs. ;_;

CEpeep
08-22-2005, 04:01 AM
> They go for $30 cart only, and a shitload more complete. >_<
>

o rly?

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=1953854
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2553866

And all I had to do was look at WallyWorld.

packardmelan
08-22-2005, 05:56 AM
Yeah, it's funny as hell that people won't just, you know, go to THE STORE when things are on the current market. The stores are usually cheaper.

Kitsune Sniper
08-22-2005, 06:32 AM
> Yeah, it's funny as hell that people won't just, you know,
> go to THE STORE when things are on the current market. The
> stores are usually cheaper.
>

Too bad the local stores won't STOCK THEM. I'm stuck going to the shitty Gamestop nearby, or go to San Diego, which is like four hours away by car. Which I would do, if I could drive.

Kitsune Sniper
08-22-2005, 06:33 AM
> And all I had to do was look at WallyWorld.

The local stores only stock GBA Videos, crappy licensed games, and newer first-party Nintendo releases. No chance of me getting any more recent games than those.

Lenophis
08-22-2005, 10:02 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr>

Yeah, it's funny as hell that people won't just, you know, go to THE STORE when things are on the current market. The stores are usually cheaper.

<hr></blockquote>
The Best Buy up here stopped selling FFX and Kingdom Hearts. So when I got my PS2 last month, good old Wally World bailed me out with one copy left of each. Games get ever so rare as time passes. So get the goods while they last!

pipes
08-22-2005, 12:11 PM
> Games get ever so rare as
> time passes. So get the goods while they last!

Thats why I am collecting NES carts. Not to mention they are cheap as dirt. <img src=smilies/thumb.gif>

Fla Flash
08-22-2005, 12:34 PM
Yeah - unless you're buying them at EB. Better bring a spare arm and leg with you. <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

MegaManJuno
08-22-2005, 02:21 PM
> And all I had to do was look at WallyWorld.

...and got them myself on eBay for under $15 each (including shipping).

MegaManJuno
08-22-2005, 02:23 PM
> There's a few "bad dumps" that are actually the correct
> dumps.

> I think one of the RBI Baseballs that GoodNES marks as bad
> is a proper dump. Not sure which.

Come to think of it, I think I've heard this before, but never really knew of a list of such mis-marked ROMs.

Ugly Joe
08-22-2005, 03:17 PM
> Yeah - unless you're buying them at EB. Better bring a spare
> arm and leg with you.

You just have to wait for the right deals. They had buy two get one free and half off at one point. I ended up paying around $6 for stuff like MegaMan 2 and Ninja Gaiden 3. Of course, so few of them carry NES games anymore that it's barely an option.

Fla Flash
08-22-2005, 03:56 PM
Hell, I went in there looking for a used copy of Pokemon Sapphire this weekend (so I could finish up my pokedex in Ruby) and the bastards want 30 bucks for that. Game's three years old...and they had like fifteen copies of it. Guess I know why.
None of the other GBA used games were as expensive as anything in the Pokemon series.
I've seen NES carts priced at $ 35. (I think it was FF1).

packardmelan
08-23-2005, 02:17 AM
Yeah, this one EB I went into wanted about $40 for a NES copy of Mega Man 3. And about $30 for Mega Man 6. I asked the guys what the fuck was wrong with them - when the Anniversary collection had just come out, and was on their shelves. The guy behind the counter laughed and said it was up to 'coporate', and that I could always just buy the DVD with the emulation anyhow.

I threw the cart into the bin in disgust, went to my car, and walked back in with my top-loading NES. I shoved in in their faces and screamed, "YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT REAL POWER IS, ASSHOLE? I AM. I HAVE THE FUCKING TOP-LOADING NES."

And then I walked back out, got in my car, and drove home.

The 9th Sage
08-23-2005, 03:47 AM
> Metroid Fusion US.zip
> Castlevania CotM US.zip
> Metroid Zero Mission US.zip
>
> They go for $30 cart only, and a shitload more complete. >_<

Huh? Everbody and his brother owns Circle of the Moon, Metroid is relatively new, and Fusion shouldn't be uncommon either since it's made by Nintendo. O_o

The 9th Sage
08-23-2005, 03:50 AM
> "YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT REAL POWER
> IS, ASSHOLE? I AM. I HAVE THE FUCKING TOP-LOADING NES."

NOW you're playing with power.

Ugly Joe
08-23-2005, 05:34 AM
> The guy behind the counter laughed and said it was
> up to 'coporate', and that I could always just buy the DVD
> with the emulation anyhow.

At least they have some kind of pricing guidelines. This one small game store around here had a copy of Dragon Quest VI with no price tag on it. One of my friends asked them how much they wanted for it and the guy behind the counter said, "Hold on, let me look it up." So the guy walks over to the computer on the other side of the store (it's not behind the counter, so you can see the screen over the guy's shoulder). He opens up Internet Explorer, goes to eBay, and looks it up there. He adds a few bucks to the most recent finished auction and quotes that as the price. Needless to say, my friend passed on their offer.