Downloading rom legally for nOObs

[CROcOp]

I got tired of stupid nOObs not reading the 1. rule and looking for roms here, at wrong place. So i decided to introduce them to p2p and get rid of them :) ...Hopefully.
So, nOObs, read this:
ASKING FOR ROMS HERE IS AGAINST THE RULES YOU WILL BE BANNED.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Fla Flash on 08/11/05 09:24 PM.</FONT></P>

[Ugly Joe]

Um...in what way is any of that legal?

[Cornellius]

> Um...in what way is any of that legal?

Well, in theory, downloading a rom is legal for 24 hours and/or if you own the cartridge, but I agree with you.

[Disch]

> Well, in theory, downloading a rom is legal for 24 hours
> and/or if you own the cartridge, but I agree with you.

Nope -- a copy being distributed illegally is illegal -- for even 1 second... and even if you own the cartridge.

The only real way to have a legit copy of a ROM is to dump it yourself from a physical copy of a game you own.

[JCE3000GT]

> The only real way to have a legit copy of a ROM is to dump
> it yourself from a physical copy of a game you own.

Nope, the act of making the copy is also illegal. <img src=smilies/eek13.gif>

[Disch]

> Nope, the act of making the copy is also illegal.

[packardmelan]

Only for newer games that display "Do not make any backups of this product" on the opening screens. ;)

[punjman]

> I got tired of stupid nOObs not reading the 1. rule and
> looking for roms here, at wrong place. So i decided to
> introduce them to p2p and get rid of them :) ...Hopefully.
> So, nOObs, read this:
> http://free-zd.t-com.hr/crocop/guidenoobs/index.html
>

OK no offense, but you're a n00b too, Mr. 189 Posts to His Name. That said, it is also against the rules to post WHERE you can find ROMs and ISOs.

It would be in your best interests to remove that link.

[The 9th Sage]

Even if it was I'd still do it...I should be allowed legal backups of my games, for MY use. There's a difference there between distributing these backups and making them for my own use.

I'm glad I have a means to do this for my PSX, GBA, SegaCD (I paid more than I was expecting for Popful Mail on eBay...damned if I'm gonna scratch up that CD), and NDS games....oh yeah, and the one Saturn game I have. :P

[The 9th Sage]

> OK no offense, but you're a n00b too, Mr. 189 Posts to His
> Name.

Ah be quiet Mr. 2013 Posts to His Name.

[Cornellius]

He's right though. He IS telling how to get roms, even if most people already know to use P2P for roms.

[Cornellius]

PSX ModChip is legal for backup needs.

[The 9th Sage]

> PSX ModChip is legal for backup needs.

? I don't have a modded Playstation.

[The 9th Sage]

> He's right though. He IS telling how to get roms, even if
> most people already know to use P2P for roms.

Yah, he's right in that part but I just thought the "I have more posts than you so you are my bitch" mentality was kinda dumb. <img src=smilies/laff.gif>

[Cornellius]

No, I was just using an exemple. You were talking about making backups and I though of this, because it's what I did with my PSX disks, after I lost FF7 in a car crash :-/

[The 9th Sage]

> No, I was just using an exemple. You were talking about
> making backups and I though of this, because it's what I did
> with my PSX disks, after I lost FF7 in a car crash :-/

Oh...I just use my computer usually since it means I don't have to dig out the Playstation. Man, I'm glad of the backups....I can't find my copy of WarioWare for the GBa anywhere, but I have a backup on my computer.

[king killa]

> Ah be quiet Mr. 2013 Posts to His Name.
>

you too mr. 12549 posts to his name. (you whore <img src=smilies/thumb.gif>)

[Goku]

> Yah, he's right in that part but I just thought the "I have
> more posts than you so you are my bitch" mentality was kinda
> dumb.

Ofcourse you do, but that is because your nobodies bitch! You are the post pimp!
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[Audigy]

why hasn't this thread been BALEETED yet?

[The 9th Sage]

> Ofcourse you do, but that is because your nobodies bitch!
> You are the post pimp!

Hey, that's why I can call him Mr. 2013 Posts to His Name.
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[ShadowMage]

Anyone who needs a guide to find ROMs doesn't deserve to have them.

[punjman]

You DORk thats not why I was saying it. it's obvious the guy is a newbztor to this site and he's trying to get pissed off at people that are new for asking for ROMs. All 1 of them in the past few months.


Some day im gonn have 103132040223423488384698345.W posts to my name and I WILL lord it over all.. BWA HA HA AHA HAHAAAHA HAHA!!! SANDWICHES!

[CEpeep]

fux u ghey warez kidie f4g

[CROcOp]

> OK no offense, but you're a n00b too, Mr. 189 Posts to His
> Name. That said, it is also against the rules to post WHERE
> you can find ROMs and ISOs.
>
Shut the fuck up.

> It would be in your best interests to remove that link.
>
Sry but i got bored of the noobs looking for roms at wrong place (http://www.zophar.net/wwwthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=romhack&Number=268086&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=0∂=) (http://www.zophar.net/wwwthreads/showthreaded.php?)Cat=&Board=romhack&Number=268085&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=0). But if everyone agrees I'll delete it.
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[CROcOp]

> Um...in what way is any of that legal?
>
Its sharing man. Noone takes any responsibility for what you download but yourself. In most perfect world everyone would own cartridge before downloading via p2p, but not everyone has that much money. Heck, I cant even find cartridges avaliable on stores.

[punjman]

> Shut the fuck up.


You should have said STFU. That's cooler. <img src=smilies/upeyes.gif>

I won't be the one getting banned for posting something against the rules. If you got tired of them looking the wrong places, then PM them, don't post stuff that's against the rules, and then bitch about someone posting something that is against the rules. Noob.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by punjman on 08/10/05 02:43 AM.</FONT></P>

[Fla Flash]

It's not. Not in any way shape or form.
However the guide is borderline. I think instructing people on breaking the law has been going on for eons.

[The 9th Sage]

> Its sharing man. Noone takes any responsibility for what you
> download but yourself. In most perfect world everyone would
> own cartridge before downloading via p2p, but not everyone
> has that much money. Heck, I cant even find cartridges
> avaliable on stores.

Uh...not having enough money doesn't make it legal. By that logic I could go rob a bank, then say "Well I did it because I had no money!" and that would automatically make it legal.

[Ugly Joe]

> Uh...not having enough money doesn't make it legal. By
> that logic I could go rob a bank, then say "Well I did it
> because I had no money!" and that would automatically make
> it legal.

No, no, it's sharing. Like, if you borrowed money from a guy you knew robbed the bank, there'd be no problem with it because he's sharing.

(btw, <img src=smilies/upeyes.gif>)

[punjman]

> No, no, it's sharing. Like, if you borrowed money from a
> guy you knew robbed the bank, there'd be no problem with it
> because he's sharing.


roffles.

[CROcOp]

> I won't be the one getting banned for posting something
> against the rules. If you got tired of them looking the
> wrong places, then PM them, don't post stuff that's against
> the rules, and then bitch about someone posting something
> that is against the rules. Noob.
>
Im the one bitching????????
<img src=smilies/retard.gif>
S T F U.<img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

[CROcOp]

> Uh...not having enough money doesn't make it legal. By
> that logic I could go rob a bank, then say "Well I did it
> because I had no money!" and that would automatically make
> it legal.
>
Man you are always right. Damn :)
But anyways i read somewhere that p2p sharing goes by some laws. I dont know anything about so im not writing anything and be stupid later.

[CROcOp]

> Um...in what way is any of that legal?
>
And in what way is legal when you download a rom from some site, change it and distribute the patch over the internet?
Now all rom hacking is a question of legalness.

[Disch]

Theoretically the patch contains no copywrited data, only original data that the hacker created. Therefore it can be freely distributed by the hacker however he sees fit -- since he created everything in it, it belongs to him.

However this isn't true for people who rip graphics from one game and put them in another.

[The 9th Sage]

> roffles.

Wheee!


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[punjman]

> Im the one bitching????????

> S T F U.


I guess you forgot you typed this:

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr>

I got tired of stupid nOObs not reading the 1. rule and looking for roms here, at wrong place. So i decided to introduce them to p2p and get rid of them :) ...Hopefully.
So, nOObs, read this:

<hr></blockquote>

translation:

bitch bitch bitch bitch n00bs bitch number 1 rule. so here i am to break the rule im bitching about. bitch bitch bitch.

[punjman]

> > roffles.
>
> Wheee!
>

id hit it.

[KingMike]

> Only for newer games that display "Do not make any backups
> of this product" on the opening screens. ;)
>
I believe the (American at least) law is still that you can make one backup copy, from your own legally-obtained copy, for yourself only. And you must erase/destroy the backup if you no longer own the original.

Nintendo also says it's games are "for sale and use only in [Japan/USA, Canada, Mexico, and Latin America/whatever the Pal region boxes say. :) ]", but last I knew, it was legal for me to import and play genuine copies of foreign games if I feel like it.

[sephiroth111]

> http://free-zd.t-com.hr/crocop/guidenoobs/index.html

got a better one, you can download all the roms you want from http://www.google.comhere</a>!

edit: the link didn't work right, but oh well, you get the idea =) seems like i need to work on my html again. <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by sephiroth111 on 08/11/05 12:38 AM.</FONT></P>

[king killa]

> got a better one, you can download all the roms you want
> from here!
>

congratulations, you posted a broken link to google.

[CROcOp]

> got a better one, you can download all the roms you want
> from here!
>
Ye, i agree. Google IS your friend. :) Close the thread.

[Fla Flash]

Don't post links like this anymore. Ever.Please.

[Blade556]

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[Slayer7.666]

like to start with (or end sins its late to talk about that) half of you are probaly rom hackers, so in other words if having a ROM or copy of a game is illegal well you can't hack or make a patch for a game with out the ROM unless you know the whole ROM in your headl<img src=smilies/upeyes.gif>

so instead of arguing if its legal, just say its a automatic ban if you bother more than 2 time for a rom (as in after being asked you say: didnt you read the rules? if you ask again you are banned and next time he would get banned sins he has been directly told and advised about this) like to start with, if any one can't search by there own on the net well they are likely to ask more than 2 times cos even if you search for "bikini" im shur you will have at least one site that has ROM in it so...... well any ways shut up slayer7.666! sins im off subject lol<img src=smilies/upeyes.gif>

[Blade556]

Since downloading, owning, copying, or sharing ROM's is illegal PERIOD (Except for those designated as PD), I don't see why it was necessary.

Just tell them they'll get caught by the man eventually and they'll regret it when that day comes. Thats what I tell everyone who emails me from my website.