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lord_steak
03-06-2003, 08:48 PM
This is odd.

A couple of weeks ago, I got an E-Mail from a particular ex- of mine. She & I hadn't talked in two years, since things had gone explosive in the worst possible way at the end. I got the E-Mail on a Tuesday, my favourite day of the week (most of the nasty shit in my life happens on Tuesday). She said she wanted to talk. Well, the next week, on Wednesday, we did. For nearly three hours. Most of that time, we were catching up. We exchanged E-Mails again later, and the next week, we got lunch. We seemed to be beating on some kind of barrier or something. Later, my best friend asked me if she & I were gonna get back together. I was adamantly opposed to that.

Last night, we were on AIM. We chatted about various whatnot, and seemed to hit that barrier again. After a bit, I told her that we were hitting a barrier. She agreed, and we quickly figured out that meeting up brought old feelings back to the surface. I knew she didn't just want a hug when we departed the last two times. She didn't deny that. We decided to meet up again today.

Today, was...strange. We met up after my 19<sup><u></u></sup> Cen. Brit. Lit. class. We hit Wendy's (not literally, but it is a tempting thought <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>), and drove to another part of town to eat. We talked. She was driving the old minivan, what she drove when we had been dating. Memories flooded me. After eating, we began talking again. I remembered tickling her knees a number of times while she was driving. Gave it a shot, she defended herself (something she had much more difficulty with while driving <img src=smilies/thumb.gif>). We continued talking. Cycle repeats, and we found ourselves holding hands again. And, we wound up kissing again, after which we held eachother tight, just sitting there, in a minivan, in a movie store parking lot. I felt like I had finally made it home. We spent the rest of the afternoon together, before she had to go to class and take a test at 4. We're going to see Gods & Generals Saturday night.

I'm so confused. I spent two years in silent, bitter anger toward her, only to find that those feelings I had for her never left. And what's most strange to me is how we fell right back into our old habits, without a miss. Shortly before I walked her to class, I asked what we are now. She said she doesn't know (inconvient, I was asking 'cuz I don't know either). I'm not sure what to make of this.

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CEpeep
03-06-2003, 08:53 PM
> This is odd.
>
I'm not exactly an expert, but I'd say that unless you're currently involved with someone else, ride with it. It may not re-blossom into anything romantic again, but you could end up with a really great friend.

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lord_steak
03-06-2003, 09:10 PM
> I'm not exactly an expert, but I'd say that unless you're
> currently involved with someone else, ride with it. It may
> not re-blossom into anything romantic again, but you could
> end up with a really great friend.

I hope so. Friends are something I can use right about now. And yeah, I am availible. I'm just not sure if I want to go back down that road, yet, I know I do.

One of these days, I'll figure out that trying to figure out how I work DOESN'T WORK, and just leaves me staring vacantly semi-skyward on my knees.

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SwampGas
03-06-2003, 09:29 PM
my ex cheated on me several times...not kiddie high school cheating...i'm talking about adultery (read: SEX). haven't spoken to her in almost a year now. i'm sure that if we met up again the same thing would happen which happened to you. hatred may temporarily blind a person, but the true feeling never really die.

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WhyteKnight
03-07-2003, 02:43 AM
Hmmm. The best advice I could give you? Slow, friend, very slow. Coming back into contact with an old ex can be similar to rebounding in some ways. Its been a couple years. Take the time to get to know each other all over again, a little bit at a time before you get too far. Things could work out well if you have the will and patience to let them happen rather than make them happen.

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shawn
03-07-2003, 01:44 PM
I'ld just take it slow, but if she called you maybe she knows she and you breaking up was a mistake and wants to correct it, and it sounds like you are feeling the same from this post. <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

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lord_steak
03-07-2003, 02:56 PM
> I'ld just take it slow, but if she called you maybe she
> knows she and you breaking up was a mistake and wants to
> correct it, and it sounds like you are feeling the same from
> this post.
>

I don't know what to make of it all. Yeah, this is kinda like cross-posting (sorta, but not exactly), but, this is that girl that got the abortion. Things, obviously, went super-kablooie then, that pain lingers (the child would've be able to form some syllables by now), and I don't know if I want to go back down this road a second time. Both of us think that if we hadn't split then, we probably wouldn't have at all.

Let's see here...I'm 21, just getting over adolesence, still all emotion and no brain, confused about the world, don't know how I'm gonna get through college, and this comes along. I've been told the Father Almighty doesn't send any more to anybody than what they can handle...if that's so, what can I not handle? I'm up to me neck as it stands right now.

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shawn
03-07-2003, 06:46 PM
I believe a woman has the right to make a choice like that, her body and it's a HUGE responsibility, she might have thought it was to big a responsibility at the time she had the abortion and knew she couldn't handle it.
You should talk to her and get that out there calmly and just talk, don't try to justify either side, just talk about it, she might be worried about this to and if you don't talk about it the thoughts in the back of your mind will always pester you and that'll be like an invisible wedge in your relationship. Remember, communication is the key to a good relationship. <img src=smilies/thumb.gif>

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lord_steak
03-07-2003, 07:19 PM
> Remember, communication is the key to a good
> relationship.
>

Here's the problem though. I'm not sure if this is a relationship or not. I asked her what we should call ourselves now, and she said she doesn't know either. I don't know if I really want to stick around in this situation, really. Kinda funny, really, most of the time, I'm thinking "this isn't a good idea." As soon as she comes around, I can't fight the emotions that flood my mind. I try to avoid identifying with songs, but, unavoidable this time; the Tool songs H and Parabola effectively sum up how I feel about this madness.

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shawn
03-07-2003, 07:34 PM
Mybe she's afraid to say anything because she's afraid of getting hurt but you seem to have the same problem which means you both mean enough to each other to make that a definite posibility, so go for it, but go slow because your both a little different now that your older but that might be a good thing and both of you still have feelings for the other and that's a great thing, don't remember the last time I was really in love but I know I blew a lot of chances because of pure stupidity and being scared of having a real relationship so don't you be a moron like me, she's there waiting and she made the first move so you might as well go with it till something besides fear of a possible future problem comes along, it sounded all good for the most part, just a little awkward at times but that's to be expected. <img src=smilies/liefde.gif>

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lord_steak
03-07-2003, 07:51 PM
> Mybe she's afraid to say anything because she's afraid of
> getting hurt but you seem to have the same problem which
> means you both mean enough to each other to make that a
> definite posibility, so go for it,

I'll give it a shot, though, I'm gonna have to be careful. Like, about everything. Another her ex-'s (before my time) is obsessed with her, and is trying to get her back. He's in Maine. She'll be going to Maine again sometime in the relatively near future. That's a huge reason for my reluctance.

I suppose I should've put that down on the table earlier, huh? <img src=smilies/erm.gif>

And, the best part of it all: her parents hate me, and my parents hate her. Of course, her parents were particularly fond of me back then, though.... Heh. I'll figure something out.

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SpaceTiger
03-07-2003, 10:38 PM
> I'm not sure what to make of this.

Give it another shot. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't hurt nearly as much the second time. Keep an open mind to other relationships, though.

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WhyteKnight
03-08-2003, 07:19 AM
> I'll give it a shot, though, I'm gonna have to be careful.

Good man. Just take it slow and easy brotha.

> She'll be going to Maine again sometime in the
> relatively near future. That's a huge reason for my
> reluctance.

If he's not the reason for her going then no big deal. if it is, maybe she is going to go beat his ass :)

> I suppose I should've put that down on the table earlier,
> huh?

nah no big deal.

> And, the best part of it all: her parents hate me, and my
> parents hate her. Of course, her parents were particularly
> fond of me back then, though.... Heh. I'll figure
> something out.

yeah you will. and ya know what? fuck what people think about you or the people you're involved with. If it's right for you then its right, and thats all there is to it.

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lord_steak
03-09-2003, 02:43 AM
> > I'll give it a shot, though, I'm gonna have to be careful.
>
> Good man. Just take it slow and easy brotha.
>

That didn't work. The "slow and easy" bit of it. She dropped by today. Instead of doing a paper due on Monday....yeah. Not good (well, that's not true in most respects; 'twas very nice). You guys know how one thing leads to another, and then, eventually...we said weren't gonna do that, but..., oops. I didn't mean to put that in there. <img src=smilies/cwm27.gif> <img src=smilies/erm.gif> *drops head like a guilty dog* *hides under large blanket*

> If he's not the reason for her going then no big deal. if it
> is, maybe she is going to go beat his ass :)
>

That'd be nice.

No, she's going to visit old dear friends. She's lived around there for years. No big.

And here's the funny part of this blurb: she tells me he's handy with a sword. I'd certainly like to see this; so am I. I've handled a variety of melee weapons for many years now (pyschotic older brother, he liked to make edge-less models and use them; I either had to learn how to fight with the damn things or get bruised regularly).

> yeah you will. and ya know what? fuck what people think
> about you or the people you're involved with. If it's right
> for you then its right, and thats all there is to it.
>

I keep telling myself that, but, I never seem to get the point.

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WhyteKnight
03-09-2003, 02:58 AM
> I didn't mean to put that in there.

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ah, don't worry about it. It happens. Just take it slow FROM NOW ON ;)

> I keep telling myself that, but, I never seem to get the
> point.
>
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blackize
03-09-2003, 03:39 AM
Dude, I've been going through a similar experience with Laura for the past few months. I know how much it sucks when you ask what's going on between the two of you, and she doesn't seem to know. One question, how explosive did things end for you? For me and Laura, she called me from work and I sang my hate song for her. One verse went like, "Hope her grandfather drops dead."

Long story short, Laura and I reconciled our differences and are starting over again. Don't know whether or not we're friends or in a relationship, but going back to the hate song and that specific verse, her grandfather died two days ago. She called me at work and told me, "You got your wish, Chuck, my grandpa died yesterday." I never meant what I said in the song at all, I was just venting. Now I feel like the biggest piece of shit ever, I feel somewhat responsible for the man's death. I hate my life.

I don't know what to do, but I want to make everything up to Laura. Everything I said to her, every fight we had, every negative thought I had towards her and her family, I want to take it all back and make everything up to Laura. Any suggestions?

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lord_steak
03-09-2003, 03:56 AM
> I don't know what to do, but I want to make everything up to
> Laura. Everything I said to her, every fight we had, every
> negative thought I had towards her and her family, I want to
> take it all back and make everything up to Laura. Any
> suggestions?

Apologizing profusely, while it feels like you're accomplishing something, annoys the hell out of nearly everyone. Yeah, I may sound like Cpt. Obvious with that, but, lots of people do that initially. My suggestion would be to give a sincere, concrete apology of the appropriate length, and ask her how to make it up to her. Build her a house if need be (that's gonna suck the big one if that's what it comes down to).

And in the future, don't wish the death of anyone close to someone you're angry with, for the freak chance of what happened to you possibly happening again. It's not your fault, in any way at all, that he died (doesn't feel like, I imagine, but, human beings cannot manipulate the strings of fate as much as we'd like to), and you must keep that in mind. Don't think that there's any one individual thing that'll take care of it all; that doesn't happen this side of reality. How you got about this problem is, by most respects, more important than the end outcome (means are justified by the means, not the ends). Regardless of what you decide to do, be sincere about your ends and means.

Hang tough, and keep us updated.

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SpaceTiger
03-09-2003, 10:37 PM
> I no longer have strong feelings of
> love or hatred towards her, but they're still there, deep
> down inside. I cannot deny that. Things like this have a
> lasting impact on you.

I really hear that. I have a girl sitting in that exact same position in my heart. You're right, it would be a terrible thing to start up again, but it does stay with you.

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SharkESP
03-10-2003, 01:00 PM
Say it once, be sincere and honest, and move on from it. If you're forgiven, then you're forgiven: There's no need to bring it up in a remorseful manner again.

If the same thing that's happening to me happens to you, You'll both end up bringing up all of the good memories of those times and lose all of the bad times.

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lord_steak
03-10-2003, 09:13 PM
> Sounds like a good sign to me man... I mean you were
> obviously happy with her.

Yeah. I was with her for 14 months; my longest relationship. She...well, I don't know what all to say about her. A fair amount of it probably is a bit on the private side, and I don't know anyone here well enough to confide those kinds of deeper secrets (let alone post it for all the world to see).

Everything has to happen at once, ya' know? Car wreck, parents go balistic, I seek new place to stay, grades go to crap, I seem to be falling back to an ex- I've hated for the last two years, suicidal episodes, and yet, because of her, I can smile. I don't get it, but I don't mind.

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