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carmelandrews1
02-21-2005, 08:44 AM
I guess that the US patent office has or had never heard of intellectual property rights, or alternatively the internet (which, correct me if i'm wrong, the Americans co-invented)

Then they will have known that someone else (namely the mame and mame32 dev. teams) had prior usage of the mame name and logo

Or is the collective element known as 'humans' who proport to work for the US patent office totally devoid of the 'human' substance called 'brains' or 'braincells' or havent they been trained how to use it or them yet

Whilst it's true (according to the american's) that posession is 9 tenths of the law, lest we forget that In English law, theft is still regarded as a criminal offence, it would seem that this CEO bloke at ultracade, seems to have unlawfully copied (from the internet) the mame name and logo

Perhaps the intenet team behind mame and mame32 or ZD itself should educate those individuals at the US patent office how to use the internet

I'm assuming the laws or act's of parlaiment (US and UK) in relation to the internet, covers this area quite adequately

Why don't we send the CEO bloke from Ultracade, a joint email telling him what we think of what he's doing....

your input is greatly appreciated

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SirDaShadow
02-21-2005, 06:36 PM
> Why don't we send the CEO bloke from Ultracade, a joint
> email telling him what we think of what he's doing....
>
> your input is greatly appreciated
>
I'm sorry but I have been unable to check the website on a daily basis, would someone please clue me in on what he's talking about?

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SwampGas
02-21-2005, 06:59 PM
> I'm sorry but I have been unable to check the website on a
> daily basis, would someone please clue me in on what he's
> talking about?

Moogle is a mame contributor and posted how some guy attempted to trademark "mame" and the mame logo with the us patent office. It got on slashdot last night.

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SirDaShadow
02-21-2005, 09:33 PM
> Moogle is a mame contributor and posted how some guy
> attempted to trademark "mame" and the mame logo with the us
> patent office. It got on slashdot last night.
>
I just saw the post on ZD. This is going to be interesting...what kind of license does MAME has? (I mean, does it allow to do what this guy did?) Do you think the courts will dismiss it?

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SwampGas
02-21-2005, 10:16 PM
> I just saw the post on ZD. This is going to be
> interesting...what kind of license does MAME has? (I mean,
> does it allow to do what this guy did?) Do you think the
> courts will dismiss it?

First use law says that mame is protected from this guy suing them...but since nicola isn't in the us, it complicates things.

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hcs
02-22-2005, 01:38 AM
Although this guy does have some nerve attempting to trademark something he didn't create if you read his response to the accusation (which was posted on /. and elsewhere) he doesn't intend to attack the freeware MAME community, just those selling arcade machines with illegal ROMs and cutting into his profits. So on the off chance that he actually gets this trademark it shouldn't directly affect the developers of MAME. It'll still be complete BS, though.

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The 9th Sage
02-22-2005, 01:56 AM
> So on the off chance
> that he actually gets this trademark it shouldn't directly
> affect the developers of MAME. It'll still be complete BS,
> though.

I dislike this man completely on principle now. I don't believe it's his right to copyright something that he has NOTHING to do with and had NO hand in creating no matter what his spin doctors, er, he says his reasoning is.


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SwampGas
02-22-2005, 02:14 AM
On December 24th, 1996, Nicola Salmoria began working on his single hardware emulators (for example Multi-Pac), which he merged into one program during January 1997. He named the accomplishment by the name of Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator, or MAME for short (pronounced as the word 'maim' in English, other languages may differ).

Source: mame.net

In other words, Nicola has prior art rights to it. He is the trademark/patent holder. He should "own" it (although I think the best option would be to have an organization formed with the highest mame devs and have the trademark/patent belong to that organization with Nicola named as the creator).

This business of some guy trying to go after the illegal rom sellers is BS. That's not his job, nor his fight. It sounds like some stupid excuse he made up after this got such mainstream attention. The owners of the games (aka Capcom, et al) should go after someone illegally selling their software.

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Murray
02-22-2005, 02:49 AM
Ultracade CEO David Foley broke the law!

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anti-corporate
02-26-2005, 02:10 AM
damn anyone for screwing with MAME

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The 9th Sage
02-27-2005, 02:58 AM
> Ultracade CEO David Foley broke the law!

Mostly where my dislike is coming from is thus (in simple mathematical terms):

X + Y/B = Z

With X = David Foley, Y = Copyrighting MAME, B = fucktardness, and of course Z = God Damn Asshole.

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