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Diskeater
09-10-2002, 12:30 AM
Let me set the scene for y'all.
Back at the end of July, I got pulled over for going a bit too fast. A cop tracked me going 57 in a 35 mph zone (oops). He said that he could give me 5 points on my license but he chose to give me 3 points instead. He didn't bother to reduce the fine so I had to pay the full $179.50.
I've moved on since then. I don't drive nearly as fast when there's a possibility of getting pulled over. I put the ticket behind me. Until a few days ago. The DMV sent me a notice that due to my 3 point ticket, my license was going to be recalled as of September 19! Needless to say, I was upset.
In VT, we have a graduated license program. Basically, I have a "junior operators" license until I'm 18. They place restrictions ondriving passengers and crap like that. Nothing states that if you get ONE speeding ticket they can take away your license. The only thing in the laws that even hints at this is the fact that a junior operators license is a "provisional" license that is eligable to be recalled. I guess this means that the can recall it for any reason at any time.
I admit, speeding isn't the smartest thing to do. But I paid my ticket on time! Why should they punish me again? <img src=smilies/2gunsfiring_v1.gif>
I realize that this isn't the most serious problem in the world right now, but it's something I don't need to deal with right now.
I just needed to bitch. That is all. Oh, and we are going to try and request a hearing.
EDIT: Alright, here's why I got the ticket to begin with. I was sitting at a red light. It was 10:30 at night. A car pulls up next to me (to make a left). They stopped about six feet from the stop line, so this caught my attention. When the light changed, the car beside me didn't move. Unfortunately, I payed more attention to what they were doing in my rear view window than to how fast I was going. This wasn't in a neighborhood or anything even CLOSE to that. I was just passed a strip mall area and I got pulled over in front of some flag shop. <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Diskeater on 09/09/02 11:13 PM.</FONT></P>
57 in a 35
Sounds like you were speeding badly in a residential neigbourhood where you could hit a kid or somthing. I may sound like an ass, but im glad your license is recalled. I may sound like an ass, but it should be. If a little kid ran out infront of you, hes dead.
I actually heard complaining about a similar but serious incident like this before. Where i was working at, epople were complaining that thier friend was charged with manslaughter. They thought the penalty was harsh He guy drove drunk, got in an accident and killed his sister. So sad to bad, he belongs behind bars. He only got 2 years..
Im sorry. Be glad you only lost your license. Dont whine about it because it was your own damn fault. Harsh, i know, but thats life.
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Vampiro
09-10-2002, 02:34 AM
> I've moved on since then. I don't drive nearly as fast when
> there's a possibility of getting pulled over.
Heaven forbid you might obey the law..
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Dosnt matter, hes still speeding badly. He deserved what he got.
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Dark Macc
09-10-2002, 02:38 AM
> Dosnt matter, hes still speeding badly. He deserved what he
> got.
Doesn't matter, you're still an ass <img src=smilies/flipa.gif>
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> Doesn't matter, you're still an ass
Boohoo hooo. I feel so bad. Read his damn post, the ass didnt learn anything. Theres a difference between going 5 mph and doing what he did.
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Dark Macc
09-10-2002, 02:48 AM
> Boohoo hooo. I feel so bad. Read his damn post, the ass
> didnt learn anything. Theres a difference between going 5
> mph and doing what he did.
I was kidding, hence the <img src=smilies/flipa.gif> smiley. Lighten up, life isn't as serious as you try and make it out to be. Jeez, live a little
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Diskeater
09-10-2002, 03:09 AM
> Sounds like you were speeding badly in a residential
> neigbourhood where you could hit a kid or somthing. I may
> sound like an ass, but im glad your license is recalled
Wrong. This was actually around a shopping mall-type area. Not a house for miles.
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Diskeater
09-10-2002, 03:14 AM
> Heaven forbid you might obey the law..
I meant that now I only speed when I'm on the interstate, and even there I only go about 5-10 MPH over the posted limit.
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ElZacho
09-10-2002, 04:07 AM
They thought the penalty was harsh He guy
> drove drunk, got in an accident and killed his sister. So
> sad to bad, he belongs behind bars. He only got 2 years..
Kill somebody with a bat or knife: 25-life
Kill somebody with an automobile: 2 years, max. (or, as it seems, kill my best friend with a car: nothing happens<img src=smilies/angryfire.gif>)
(oh boy, here comes the rant, NOT directed at anybody here)
You want to drink and drive asshole? Be my guest, it's your fucking life, why the fuck would you care about others you drunken shit. why don't you just get drunk and start shooting a gun around some people, maybe they'll die<img src=smilies/thumb.gif>! Don't bitch when you get 2 fucking years for murder, just because your weapon was stupidity and not a gun. They should take away your liscense, driving isn't your God-damned right. And if you run from the scene where you kill, I'd like to personally kill you with a broken lightbulb, you piece of shit.
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SwampGas
09-10-2002, 08:50 PM
GOOD. now your speeding dumbass won't have the possibility of wrecking into me. <img src=smilies/headshake.gif>
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Diskeater
09-10-2002, 09:11 PM
> GOOD. now your speeding dumbass won't have the possibility
> of wrecking into me.
Are you going to tell me that you've never gone 5 mph over the speed limit? That's how fast I drive now (especially around kids and in town). I just don't think it's right for them to take away my license after I've paid my penalty.
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SwampGas
09-10-2002, 10:20 PM
> Are you going to tell me that you've never gone 5 mph over
> the speed limit? That's how fast I drive now (especially
> around kids and in town). I just don't think it's right for
> them to take away my license after I've paid my penalty.
you losing your license IS your penalty. the money is just half of it.
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Diskeater
09-10-2002, 10:33 PM
> Um. You don't know SwampGas, do you.
My point was that he shouldn't get on my ass about speeding when he is guilty of the crime himself.
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Diskeater
09-10-2002, 10:36 PM
> you losing your license IS your penalty. the money is just
> half of it.
There is nothing in the law that states I should lose my license on account of getting 3 points on my license. The cop never said anything about a possible recall. This is the same state which finally revoked the license of a convicted DWI felon after DOZENS of offences.
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Vampiro
09-10-2002, 11:13 PM
> Are you going to tell me that you've never gone 5 mph over
> the speed limit? That's how fast I drive now especially
> around kids and in town). I just don't think it's right for
> them to take away my license after I've paid my penalty.
You just dont make any sense!!
ok if you got a speeding ticket because you accidently drove to fast, yeah that sucks
But you are driving too fast ON PURPOSE!!!!!<img src=smilies/errrr.gif>~
and you pretend you dont do anything wrong..
yeah sir the speed limit is 50, but i always drive faster then the speed limit.. why? well thats just who i am!
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SwampGas
09-10-2002, 11:40 PM
> There is nothing in the law that states I should lose my
> license on account of getting 3 points on my license. The
> cop never said anything about a possible recall. This is the
> same state which finally revoked the license of a convicted
> DWI felon after DOZENS of offences.
you broke the law. you pay the price. driving is a privilege..not a right.
i had 77 in a 55 in august of 2000...that's like 4 or 5 points. i paid my fine and never heard about it again...but apparently i didn't get the message.
i totalled the car in october on a deer...but apparently i didn't get the message.
i hit another deer with the new car. i got the message.
i drive 80+ on the deserted highway at 6 or 7am on a sunday morning...otherwise, i don't speed at all. it's stupid and it's not worth it.
i'm not sure whether my "incidents" influenced my mindset or i just grew up...but you need to do the same.
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Octocrook
09-10-2002, 11:42 PM
> Are you going to tell me that you've never gone 5 mph over
> the speed limit? That's how fast I drive now (especially
> around kids and in town). I just don't think it's right for
> them to take away my license after I've paid my penalty.
A. Fines are rarely ever the only penalty. A lot of times they make people take traffic school or revoke the license or put limitations on the license or other things. Since you are on a provisional license, you had to expect something beyond just a ticket.
B. It's good that you've learned to slow down, but it's better to learn not to let something take your focus off your surroundings and your speed, because I'm sure if you saw the cop, you wouldn't have gone that fast. The car that stopped 6 feet behind the line took your focus, which apparently caused you to not watch your speed too, although frankly, if something in my rear view mirror was taking my focus, it would cause me to drive slower rather than faster.
C. Swampy undoubtedly drives <= the speed limit 100% of the time. Trust me on that.
D. I admittedly have driven as much as 25 MPH over the speed limit. I am VERY careful about it though. If there is any chance of a cop seeing me go that fast, I don't, and if I can't drive safely while going that fast, I don't....simple as that. Just like in NFL...many penalties never get noticed because the players know when they can do it and get away with it....such as life.
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> Wrong. This was actually around a shopping mall-type area.
That means there will be even more pedestrians, even worse.
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Your lucky - if you were up in norther n ontario, you could of ran into a moose and be dead right now!
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Vampiro
09-10-2002, 11:54 PM
> That means there will be even more pedestrians, even worse.
>
http://www.sci.co.uk/games/data/carmageddon/tdr_2000/Renders/08.jpg
Pedestrians = Bonus!
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> Pedestrians = Bonus!
True, true - how much do you get for hitting that old lady with the walker!
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puduhead
09-11-2002, 03:05 AM
Wow. A lot of passionate anti-speeders here.
Well, I speed when I feel like it so kiss my - <img src=smilies/moon.gif>
I've had my share of speeding tickets. No accidents. Naysayers that wish to preach "my time will come", don't bother. Refer to part above about my <img src=smilies/moon.gif>
Some of you talk as if streets were created for pedestrians. Um.. we have sidewalks. And I don't know what backwoods places you guys live, but most the places I've been only have crosswalks at signals. So if some dumbass is smart enough to walk into the middle of the road and I hit him, I'm probably just doing my part to thin the heard. <img src=smilies/thumb.gif>
People. we are talking bout regular streets here! not the walmart parking lot. <img src=smilies/flipa.gif>
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StormsInHerEyes
09-11-2002, 03:56 AM
That's against the Ex Post Facto law..
They can't bust you for a crime you commited that long ago.. there's a certain grace period.. I'd bitch to them that it's unconstitutional and you'll sue their asses man!!
Communist bitches..
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StormsInHerEyes
09-11-2002, 04:01 AM
> > Are you going to tell me that you've never gone 5 mph over
>
> > the speed limit? That's how fast I drive now (especially
> > around kids and in town). I just don't think it's right
> for
> > them to take away my license after I've paid my penalty.
Since you're posting the penatly, at least the ticket and that was better then having a cop lecture you for a half an hour.. ugh.. I hate Pigs..
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StormsInHerEyes
09-11-2002, 04:25 AM
> Pedestrians = Bonus!
>
The great thing about Grand Caymen:
Street Signs:
Pedestrians, Next 500 Yards
Kirsten: BONUS ROUND WHOO!!! <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>
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shawn
09-11-2002, 12:32 PM
> Wow. A lot of passionate anti-speeders here.
> Well, I speed when I feel like it so kiss my -
Hell yeah, I love speed when I know I won't get busted for it, had my monte carlo ss going up a 30 degree hill going 50mph and the 15 265 50 series *real wide* were still spinning, and thats a 30 mph zone, and I had a station wagon about 3 years ago and I was on interstate 93 and got it going over 130mph at 2 am, was with my uncle in his corvette and the speedometer goes to 160mph and he buried it, thought I was gonna piss my pants at that speed. <img src=smilies/cwm11.gif>
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Diskeater
09-11-2002, 06:25 PM
> > Wow. A lot of passionate anti-speeders here.
> > Well, I speed when I feel like it so kiss my -
Amen, brother! <img src=smilies/laff.gif>
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Diskeater
09-11-2002, 06:27 PM
Read my main post again, I explained why I got the ticket.
If a person I didn't see walked in front of my car, I would kill them at (basically) any speed.
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Diskeater
09-11-2002, 06:31 PM
> That means there will be even more pedestrians, even worse.
At 10:30 on a Sunday night, when everything is closed?
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puduhead
09-11-2002, 07:37 PM
> > That means there will be even more pedestrians, even
> worse.
> At 10:30 on a Sunday night, when everything is closed?
Yes. Zombie pedestrians. In which case, it doesn't matter because you have to cause them severe head trauma to die. I've seen plenty of Zombies get hit by vehicles and live to groan about it.
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Wha.......
Give me a break - the guy deserved his license was taken away, plus it was likely in the paper work when he applied for his license. SO he can sue, and there is nothing communist about this. Hell, go read somthing on Marx before you even dare make such an ignorant statment.
> Communist bitches..
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Diskeater
09-12-2002, 02:14 AM
> Give me a break - the guy deserved his license was taken
> away, plus it was likely in the paper work when he applied
> for his license.
Nope, nothing explicitly stated that having more than 3 points on my license would be grounds for a recall.
>SO he can sue, and there is nothing
> communist about this. Hell, go read somthing on Marx before
> you even dare make such an ignorant statment.
True. I wasn't going to comment about the communist thing, but I thought it was kind of dumb.
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Are you sure?
I thought with the demerit system you license was able to be taken away any time. Im pretty sure what happen to you is when your ticket went into the computer, it was automatically flagged for how many demerit points you recieved and you lost it when the pencil pusher checked the amount you were speeding and recalled it.
Also, with that loss, i cannot imagine how much your insurance is going to go up! Your already getting screwed because of your age,sex and experience, but the insurance companies are going to plug both holes now.....<img src=smilies/erm.gif>
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Diskeater
09-12-2002, 07:49 PM
> Also, with that loss, i cannot imagine how much your
> insurance is going to go up! Your already getting screwed
> because of your age,sex and experience, but the insurance
> companies are going to plug both holes now.....
I'm a 17 year old male with a record and I'm driving an SUV...ouch!
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