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Danoz
10-15-2004, 04:16 PM
What a horrible bitch. (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041015/D85NRAOG0.html)
Nobody comes BACK to work for somebody who sexually harasses them in a number of repeted ways. The fact is, O'Reilly filed for extortion before she could ever charge him with sexual harassment...

This is nothing more than a blatent attack on the credibility of O'Reilly and the FOXNews network. It makes me sick.

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CEpeep
10-15-2004, 04:33 PM
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I totally agree with you on this one though. Bill O'Reilly is a horrible bitch. <img src=smilies/laff.gif>

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SwampGas
10-15-2004, 04:50 PM
...or is this a carefully crafted publicity stunt just to get his name in the mainstream news so his republican views are brought to the forefront?

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Danoz
10-15-2004, 04:54 PM
> ...or is this a carefully crafted publicity stunt just to
> get his name in the mainstream news so his republican views
> are brought to the forefront?

He's already the #1 show <img src=smilies/thumb.gif>

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SpaceTiger
10-15-2004, 04:56 PM
> He's already the #1 show

Yeah, but that's only with looney conservatives. This gives him more widespread attention.

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Danoz
10-15-2004, 05:38 PM
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Yeah, but that's only with looney conservatives. This gives him more widespread attention.

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You think so, too? Everybody knows who O'Reilly is. A man of his credibility and clean record would only stand to lose from something like this. The number one news program is hardly one for "loony conservatives". I don't always agree with him, but it's obvious to me that he's honest and straight forward-- he doesn't let people spin the truth. It's nice that you want to label millions of viewers into one neat category (which you accuse me of all the time), but Bill O Reilly is quite the moderate. Just because the far-left calls him a conservative, I assure you, does not make it law. Friends of mine who support Kerry don't even slight him, because he's honest. You don't think he pissed off his Republican base when he called the war a mess, and a "gross mistake"? I really don't believe you've watched him, or Fox News, enough to formulate your own opinion on this one. When I ask other students at school to justify the idea that FoxNews is "right-wing", they have nothing to say. It's another example of people trying to shut down what is as close to balanced as news has ever been. It was nice that the liberal media dominated for so long, but FOXNews has grown in power because it does give a voice to those viewpoints which have been ignored.

How do you answer to the fact that FoxNews has far surpassed the other stations? If you think they have a solely republican fanbase, you're very mistaken.Why do I watch it? Because I like to see intelligent conservatives debate intelligent liberals on a fair playing field. FoxNews most certainly isn't my only news source, but it's my favorite above all. It's nice to see guys like Sean Hannity and Alan Colmes be polarized politically but still get along.

I wonder if anybody here will defend good ol' Dan Rather. Ah, and I always love to hear that only "international" news is reliable from the socialist nations in Europe that hate us. A person should rely on more than one news source, yes. But to not give FoxNews the credit it deserves is ridiculous and unjustified. Now, I probably read more Newsweek than everybody here, and more often than not it's been called a "liberal" source-- but I don't call it's fanbase "loony liberals".


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SpaceTiger
10-15-2004, 05:52 PM
> You think so, too? Everybody knows who O'Reilly is. A man of
> his credibility and clean record would only stand to lose
> from something like this.

I don't really think it's a stunt, I'm just explaining the rationale that SwampGas was using. It's not really far-fetched.


> Bill O Reilly is quite the moderate.

Oh my god. You scare me sometimes.

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IceWolf20
10-15-2004, 05:53 PM
> I totally agree with you on this one though. Bill O'Reilly
> is a horrible bitch.

I agree.....for the sake of appeasing t3h Danoz, I'll leave out the right wing label on O'Reilly. He's straight up a complete inconsiderate prick of an asshole....yes I've watched him, and I can't fucking stand the man....HE IS AN ASSHOLE.

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Danoz
10-15-2004, 05:56 PM
> Oh my god. You scare me sometimes.
http://www.littlefriendsranch.com/Daisy3new.jpg
Well then, elighten me! What is he? A loony conservative? :\



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SpaceTiger
10-15-2004, 06:01 PM
> Well then, elighten me! What is he? A loony conservative? :\

Of course. You think I haven't seen his show? It's one of the most disturbing and blatant displays of extreme conservative mentality that I've ever seen. He's worse than an extremist, he's a demagogue. Next you're going to tell me that Rush Limbaugh isn't a conservative.

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Danoz
10-15-2004, 06:18 PM
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Of course. You think I haven't seen his show? It's one of the most disturbing and blatant displays of extreme conservative mentality that I've ever seen. He's worse than an extremist, he's a demagogue. Next you're going to tell me that Rush Limbaugh isn't a conservative.

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Even Al Franken called the O'Reilly factor a thinly-hidden conservative agenda. I just don't know how you can make such a claim. I would love to see some examples.

Rush Limbaugh is very, very conservative. I mean, he's not a vicious, welfare-hating homophobe like Michael Savage- but while Rush puts forth some good ideas, he's so offensive sometimes that his rhetoric can't persuade, it can only polarize people further (pissing off the opposition and making his fan base equally as pissed off at the opposition). He has this idea that all liberals are scheming and immoral, whereas I believe both liberals and conservative have a genuine desire to make America better. He's a pessimist; Clinton is evil. Kerry is evil. Democrats are evil. That, and Rush is so caught up in party doctrine that he forgets to be an American before he's a Republican. Overall, Rush makes me laugh, but I don't take him all that seriously-- and I'm failing to see how you can make any valuable connections between his show and the factor.
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SpaceTiger
10-15-2004, 06:21 PM
> I'm failing to see how you can make any
> valuable connections between his show and the factor.

Well, I admit that I haven't seen his show for something like a year, so if he's changed a great deal, I wouldn't know. I find it hard to believe that he would have changed that much in the intervening time, however.

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MooglyGuy
10-15-2004, 06:41 PM
> Now, I probably read more Newsweek than
> everybody here, and more often than not it's been called a
> "liberal" source-- but I don't call it's fanbase "loony
> liberals".

Sure you don't. You use every other negative adjective to describe liberals, but not loony, nope.

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puduhead
10-15-2004, 07:29 PM
> What a horrible bitch.

and there's lots of bitches out there. maybe Monica was a bitch for telling people she sucked Clinton's dick. maybe that Anita Hill was a bitch to poor mr. Thomas.

doesn't this post have more to do with the fact that you're a right-wing-fox-news-o'reilly fanboy?

don't get into flame mode. y'all don't even see through the mist.

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IceWolf20
10-15-2004, 07:29 PM
And now....for something completely different....


O'Reilly fucknig pw0nd (http://media.ebaumsworld.com/jackmehoffer.wmv)

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puduhead
10-15-2004, 07:39 PM
> How do you answer to the fact that FoxNews has far surpassed
> the other stations?

They gained face for being the first to report Bush's victory in Florida. Every other major news source "fucked up" the answer by declaring Gore the winner, those stupid bastards! /wwwthreads/images/icons/wink.gif Of course the guy behind the Fox News desk was Bush's cousin so you know how we like to do it with insider info. word.

As for shutting fox news down? I don't give a shit if it's the most popular or not. It's just a news channel, not a means of instructing me how to think. But for the record I think Chris Matthews is one of the more "balanced" reporters I've seen on the news. Although the idea of balance in this repub/democrat system of ours is complete bullshit anyway. If any of these news channels were really balanced maybe they'd be going to bat more for the other political parties out there. But that's just not big enough news unfortunately and it all really *is* about the ratings now isn't it?

So good job fox news with having the ratings. That truly must mean you are the most balanced news source! <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

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Danoz
10-15-2004, 08:52 PM
> O'Reilly fucknig pw0nd

...how do you figure? O'Reilly countered it perfectly.


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IceWolf20
10-15-2004, 08:55 PM
> > O'Reilly fucknig pw0nd
>
> ...how do you figure? O'Reilly countered it perfectly.

Yes...he countered the question properly....but the NAME of the person writing in? Jack Mehoffer? I dont think he countered the name, he just didn't realize what it said.

I'm surprised that his staff, and himself didn't catch that....but its not as bad as if he would've said "Haywood Jablowme"

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Danoz
10-15-2004, 09:17 PM
Oh, guess I didn't catch the name- either. Maybe his name is actually jack meheroff ;)

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prisonpants
10-15-2004, 10:30 PM
<a href=http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=bill_oreilly>maddox should be president</a>

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JadussD
10-15-2004, 10:52 PM
> So good job fox news with having the ratings. That truly
> must mean you are the most balanced news source!

Especally with the majority of Americans being intelligent, discerning, individuals who analyze news carefully and definitely don't like it when major media outlets put a nice jingoistic spin on things in order to make them feel good. Americans see through things like that and feel that their intelligence is insulted such idiocy.

Oh wait!

I believe something like 40% of Americans think Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11.

My experience is that msot Americans not only buy whatever spin their news source puts on things without question, but usually mangle that and come up with a whole slew of misinterpretations of the news that go well with their world-views. Fuck America.

And don't call me a liberal because I hate this country, I'd like to see most of you thrown into a pit of boiling acid. That's not very bleeding heart of me. That's pretty damn cruel actually. Maybe I should run for President on a "KILL THE MASSES" platform.

Ahem....hyperbole, people.

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maq112k2
10-15-2004, 11:43 PM
> You think so, too? Everybody knows who O'Reilly is.

Yes, a man who invites people on his show, and let's them speak. Then, as soon as they hit on a point O'Reilly missed like a bullet from one of the Matrix movies, his screeching yells drain out the guest, and he makes useless comments to try and change the situation. Ask Jack Mehoffer.

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Octocrook
10-16-2004, 02:11 AM
Question: Who do you think is more conservative: Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh? I would almost say Hannity because I don't think I have EVER heard him take anything but the Republican viewpoint on something, whereas Limbaugh does at least believe in right to privacy, even if he did come to be that way because of his drug problem.

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Danoz
10-16-2004, 02:47 AM
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Question: Who do you think is more conservative: Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh? I would almost say Hannity because I don't think I have EVER heard him take anything but the Republican viewpoint on something, whereas Limbaugh does at least believe in right to privacy, even if he did come to be that way because of his drug problem.

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They're both conservative. Hannity is totally against the president's immigration plan.

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Fla Flash
10-16-2004, 10:50 PM
I see it different.
Limbaugh, while he makes me laugh, also makes me cringe when he starts downplaying the female role in society. He only uses it for an upside when he can attack the democrats. (Kerry's wife was a recent target of his).
Hannity, I believe, could be a dangerous man if he ever ran for office and got elected. One policy disagreement does not make one that much less conservative. Jeez.
I think they're both a couple of bigmouths who got lucky enough to jump on the talk radio bandwagon (Although, I find Rush so dumb sometimes, he's actually amusing).
As far as the jackass from Fox news, O'Neill, is concerned, screw 'em.
You do something wrong, it will eventually come out.
I don't care about the girl trying to extort money from him at this point. He's using that to make himself look like the victim.
He's getting what he deserves.
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Danoz
10-17-2004, 04:47 AM
Wow, I guess the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing means nothing when you dislike somebody.

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Mr. Saturn
10-17-2004, 05:15 AM
> Wow, I guess the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing
> means nothing when you dislike somebody.
>

Or if they're liberal. <img src=smilies/thumb.gif>

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Lenophis
10-17-2004, 09:15 AM
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Or if they're liberal.

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Man am I glad I didn't stick my foot in this one. From the discussion that I've read, this looks like a situation similar to Kobe Bryant's recent ordeal. (And no, I'm not talking about Shaq vs Kobe.)

Personally, I don't watch any of them. Or in the case of Rush, listen. I have nothing invested in this either way. Whatever happens, happens. And yes, "innocent until proven guilty."

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Octocrook
10-18-2004, 03:28 AM
> What a horrible bitch.
> Nobody comes BACK to work for somebody who sexually harasses
> them in a number of repeted ways.

The part I love most: "unwanted phone sex"

How the hell do you FORCE someone to have phone sex? I guess maybe he would say he would fire her if she didn't, but jeez...it's just hard for me to picture a kind of "phone rape" situation.

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Danoz
10-18-2004, 03:29 AM
All of the situations she names involve times where she could have easily removed herself from the situation. The entire claim is ridiculous. But because people here dislike Bill O'Reilly, he's automatically guilty. Go figure.

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puduhead
10-18-2004, 04:11 AM
> All of the situations she names involve times where she
> could have easily removed herself from the situation. The
> entire claim is ridiculous. But because people here dislike
> Bill O'Reilly, he's automatically guilty. Go figure.

nah, we just like to see him face the same shit that so many others have. <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

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Fla Flash
10-18-2004, 11:49 AM
It's actually pretty fun to do. Half of 'em are tryin' to hide behind either their money or reputations, and in a few cases, neither will help.<img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

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Fla Flash
10-18-2004, 11:53 AM
Especially when that someone is a person in a position of great responsibility. That comes with the job of reporting the news - correctly. Not with a right/left slant.
Reporters, both written and live news, are supposed to be objective. Good luck convincing me he's that.
As far as Crooky said, I can't see the forced phone sex thing either. All I can do is see the Sprint guy holding a gun to her head saying, "Take the call".<img src=smilies/laff.gif>

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Danoz
10-18-2004, 03:53 PM
I suppose Dan Rather is objective.

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Fla Flash
10-18-2004, 04:06 PM
And what, pray god, gave you the idea I thought he was any less slanted than any of 'em?
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MooglyGuy
10-18-2004, 04:09 PM
> And what, pray god, gave you the idea I thought he was any
> less slanted than any of 'em?

Reporters report...

...the copy that is handed to them before the newscast or shown to them via the teleprompter. If you're going to accuse anyone of being slanted, accuse the copy writers.

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IceWolf20
10-18-2004, 05:11 PM
> Reporters report...
>
> ...the copy that is handed to them before the newscast or
> shown to them via the teleprompter. If you're going to
> accuse anyone of being slanted, accuse the copy writers.

Hence, why its Rupert Murdoch's fault....

But still....I'd think that O'Reilly would at least have some say as to the content of his show.

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SpaceTiger
10-18-2004, 05:18 PM
> But still....I'd think that O'Reilly would at least have
> some say as to the content of his show.

I would hardly call O'Reilly a reporter.

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IceWolf20
10-18-2004, 06:20 PM
> > But still....I'd think that O'Reilly would at least have
> > some say as to the content of his show.
>
> I would hardly call O'Reilly a reporter.

Hahaha....I guess this is true....more like tabloid journalist?

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puduhead
10-18-2004, 07:02 PM
> Reporters report...

> ...the copy that is handed to them before the newscast or
> shown to them via the teleprompter. If you're going to
> accuse anyone of being slanted, accuse the copy writers.

that's only true to a point. like saying soldiers soldier. But this soldier wouldn't be caught dead or alive in iraq cuz i don't believe in the war. it's always a choice. and by the same token, i think it's fair to say some reporters may have got in the business thinking they'd do some good with their fairness and objectivity. but they're never spoon-feeding us more than the commonly accepted truth which means they're part of the problem.

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Fla Flash
10-18-2004, 08:28 PM
When I went to broadcasting school, the first class was writing your own news copy. Every reporter starts off writing their own. Now, I'm sure there are staff copy writers at Fox news, but if you're gonna tell me O'Neill doesn't edit any of it....well, I've gotta disagree. They all do.

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