Condom Help!

[StormsInHerEyes]

All Right... So yes, ZD's little girl is soon to be not so innocent anymore.. But I"m promised, so I'm going to marry the guy, and So I really want this, so don't give me any of that shit.. What I need now, is some help... I've decided yes I"m going to be responsible, so yes I bought the condoms.. That's the first step, and I actually feel proud, proud that I'm taking responsibility for what I want to do.. Like I'm taking control of my life.. So now I need instructions on the procedure.. How to do it..Best way to do it.. Least akward looking way to do it..

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[CEpeep]

There's directions on the inside of the package. <img src=smilies/laff.gif>

If you two wanna make sure it's done right, don't try to do it for him. He should have practiced on a banana plenty of times.

*Remembers awkward 8th grade sex ed class.* <img src=smilies/errrr.gif>

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[StormsInHerEyes]

I mean like special techniques.. :P

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[wingless]

> condoms.. That's the first step, and I actually feel proud,
> proud that I'm taking responsibility for what I want to do..
> Like I'm taking control of my life.. So now I need
> instructions on the procedure.. How to do it..Best way to do
> it.. Least akward looking way to do it..

You mean like, instructions on the procedure of makin' teh sex0r? or putting a condom on....?

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[CEpeep]

> I mean like special techniques.. :P
>

No such thing. There's nothing "special" you can do with them. Unless it's one of theose friut-scented ones or one with ribs, and then it's kind of obvious what else you can do with them. They're best if you act like you're not even wearing them (speaking only from a guy's point of view here) <img src=smilies/laff.gif>

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[CEpeep]

> You mean like, instructions on the procedure of makin' teh
> sex0r? or putting a condom on....?
>

if it's the first one, then I totally misunderstood what she was asking. For that one, uh... Try not to think about how much your legs hurt, and for God's sake, put a towel down. <img src=smilies/cwm27.gif>

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[The 9th Sage]

>and for God's sake, put a towel down.

Ah well, yeah, depending on the circumstances...ah....MEEP! *runs away*


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[StormsInHerEyes]

the whole condom thing >_>

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[punjman]

Peepers is right, Storms.

Honestly, the best way to do it is to let the guy do it himself. Condoms are meant to be very tight, (but not circulation-cutting tight) , so either way, there's no, like 'sexy' way to put a condom on.

That's what my wife and I found, just wait until you guys are ready to, uh.. 'hit it', and then give him a minute to put it on.

BTW - because we are helping, pictures of this memorable occasion are in order, and mandatory.









thats a joke.

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I used to like you.
Now I see your nick and all I can think of is Porkyfucking Pig. <img src=smilies/laff.gif>

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[punjman]

> God.
I used to like you.
Now I see your nick and all I can
> think of is Porkyfucking Pig.
>

ha ha ha ha awesome.

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[SwampGas]

Let the record show I'm against this.

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[Kuikorosu]

> Let the record show I'm against this.

Signed.

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[Kuikorosu]

> But I"m promised, so I'm going to marry
> the guy

Marriage? How old are you again? You want what now? Control over your life? You've sure got a funny way of going about it.

I know you asked for "no shit" but I can't keep my mouth shut. This has "bad idea" written all over it. You do realize that condoms only reduce the chance of getting, and don't 100% protect you from STDs, and there's always a chance of a break, and a kid. I know this is "common sense" type knowledge, but I wanted to give you a friendly reminder that what you're getting into can permanently fuck up your life.

Children and Marriage are a great way to forfeit any control you have over your life. Just...get out of your teenage years and get your head straight before you do shit like this. Please?

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[StormsInHerEyes]

All right, first off, I'm not getting married until after college..
I'm going to west chester for instructional technology as well as a teaching degree in history, double major and I already have enough scholarships to pay for most of it.
I'm going to govenors school during the summer this year, and going to presidential school down in dc in january..
I got into Who's Who among top american students..

So I think I"m about as close to having my head on straight as I can..


second off, there's always a chance of things happening.. A tornado could hit tomorrow and demolish my house. I could not wake up from my sleep.. I'll be 18 in a few months.. and it's not going to be an everyday thing.. and he doesn't have any std's hes a virgin too..

I've really thought about this.. Thought about what could happen.. I understand the consiquences..

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[SpaceTiger]

> I've really thought about this.. Thought about what could
> happen.. I understand the consiquences..

It's good that you're waiting till after college to get married, but I think he was referring more to your promise to marriage. If your decision to have sex is in any way predicated on that, then I agree with Kuik, you shouldn't be jumping into it. If you just want sex, then go right ahead, but don't give it away based on a four-year marriage projection. I think it's a really bad idea to promise that more than a year or so ahead of time.

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[Danoz]

Just be careful. Sex tears more young relationships apart than it brings them together, just remember that. You can say "Oh, a tornado could hit my house", but the fraction isn't the same. Condoms break all the time. Think of whether or not, after sex, you're going to have a constant worry of being pregnant-- a worry that could take you over. Most girls become become obsessed with the idea the first time they get "close" and thier period comes a day late.

In the end you make your decisions, just know what's involved. The fact that you even suggested "planned marriage" has me believing that it's your main justification-- and it's a bad, very unrealistic one. I know this advice sounds crazy, but the people here pulling you back a bit only hope you don't end up regretting what should be something important.

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[IceWolf20]

> the whole condom thing >_>

Usually the there's rather detailed instructions with images on the inside of the box.....make him read that and understand the proper procedures before engaging in coitus.

But not to be an asshat.....but shouldn't he be the one buying these? I know you're being responsible, but damn yo, he's the one wearing the things, and if he wants to make with the love, then he should have the balls and responsibility to go to CVS and pick up a box (and NO, those cheapos in the shitty gas stations don't count!).

And remember, in the end....make sure you are doing this because you wholeheartedly want to do so....there can be no pressure from any outside parties, and think that in the days ensuing....will you have made the same decision? So, advice is as follows: Be sure, Be careful, Be orgasmic!

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[shawn]

> How to do it..Best way to do
> it.. Least akward looking way to do it..

If your not shy then you could try putting the condom in your mouth and then slowly get it on him. I'm not exactly sure of the specifics but he sure won't loose his erection if you use this technique, but it probably takes some skill so you don't accidentally swallow the condom. <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

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[wingless]

> Marriage? How old are you again? You want what now?
> Control over your life? You've sure got a funny way of
> going about it.

are you saying that marriage automatically means giving up control of your life? if so, that isnt true at all.

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[wingless]

> Condoms break all the time.

what are you basing this statement on? i know that they sometimes break, but i've been using condoms consistently since i was 16. i'm now 22, and i've never had a condom break. that isn't to say that it doesnt ever happen to people, but i've never even spoken to anyone who has had a condom break on them.

> or not, after sex, you're going to have a constant worry of
> being pregnant-- a worry that could take you over. Most
> girls become become obsessed with the idea the first time
> they get "close" and thier period comes a day late.

true, this definitely becomes a significant concern after you become regularly sexually active, but if you're taking the necessary precautions (condoms, other forms of birth control, etc), it shouldnt wear on your mind too much. granted, i've wasted money on pregnancy tests in the past. all negative, of course.

> In the end you make your decisions, just know what's
> involved. The fact that you even suggested "planned
> marriage" has me believing that it's your main
> justification-- and it's a bad, very unrealistic one.

the thing is... she shouldnt have to justify this to anyone here. she knows what she wants to do, and she has her reasons. that's pretty much all that matters.

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[IceWolf20]

> If your not shy then you could try putting the condom in
> your mouth and then slowly get it on him. I'm not exactly
> sure of the specifics but he sure won't loose his erection
> if you use this technique, but it probably takes some skill
> so you don't accidentally swallow the condom.

You're a dirty old man, you know that <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

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[shawn]

> You're a dirty old man, you know that

It wouldn't be any fun if I wasn't. <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

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[The 9th Sage]

> what are you basing this statement on? i know that they
> sometimes break, but i've been using condoms consistently
> since i was 16. i'm now 22, and i've never had a condom
> break. that isn't to say that it doesnt ever happen to
> people, but i've never even spoken to anyone who has had a
> condom break on them.

I'm hoping more than anything they're saying just don't jump into things. Jumping into something like this wouldn't be good, but actually it sounds to me like she's thought about it a lot, and I know she's a smart gal.

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[The 9th Sage]

> You're a dirty old man, you know that

Ahahahaha! <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

Hell yeah he is, he used to send me pr0n. :P I used to just go O_O on a daily basis.

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[shawn]

> Hell yeah he is, he used to send me pr0n. :P I used to
> just go O_O on a daily basis.

Except that one time I sent you that video of the old lady having sex that I had just sent to mushroom blue, I thought you were gonna cut your own eyes out from disgust. <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

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[The 9th Sage]

> Except that one time I sent you that video of the old lady
> having sex that I had just sent to mushroom blue, I thought
> you were gonna cut your own eyes out from disgust.

If you had told me what it was before I opened it, instead of going like "Oh, it's such a great clip" I wouldn't have opened it. <img src=smilies/laff.gif>

She was like...aaaaah! <img src=smilies/errrr.gif>

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[shawn]

> If you had told me what it was before I opened it, instead
> of going like "Oh, it's such a great clip" I wouldn't have
> opened it.

> She was like...aaaaah!

Sorry, I was really stoned and mushroomblue kind of encouraged me just a little because he thought it would be funny but I thought it would be funny to. If I knew how shocked you were after I never would have done it. <img src=smilies/cwm11.gif>

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[The 9th Sage]

> Sorry, I was really stoned and mushroomblue kind of
> encouraged me just a little because he thought it would be
> funny but I thought it would be funny to. If I knew how
> shocked you were after I never would have done it.

I've since recovered, but I'm sure you and MB found it hillarious. :P

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[Octocrook]

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[Lobster Cowboy]

> the thing is... she shouldnt have to justify this to anyone
> here. she knows what she wants to do, and she has her
> reasons. that's pretty much all that matters.

thank goodness. someone with sense

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[wingless]

> thank goodness. someone with sense

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[mFC]

i didn't know we were getting married! ::rimshot::
not to sound like a jerkass, but first times are almost intrinsically awkward so just go with the flow i guess

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[phonymike]

you're gonna give it up to him in hopes you two will be together forever, but sorry to say, the way you briefly talk about him, you guys aren't gonna get married. so go ahead and give it up, but don't dilude yourself on hopes of marriage.

p.s. until you see the ring or he pops the question and you accept, nothing's gonna happen. promises mean nothing, millions of them get broken every day. especially promises from guys.

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[StormsInHerEyes]

I love how you judge without even knowing me or him or our relationship...

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[shawn]

> Heh.

That's just not right. lol <img src=smilies/laff.gif>

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[MooglyGuy]

> I love how you judge without even knowing me or him or our
> relationship...

Yeah, because you sure haven't given us anything to go on with the way you kind of textually brush him off. <img src=smilies/upeyes.gif>

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[wingless]

> you're gonna give it up to him in hopes you two will be
> together forever, but sorry to say, the way you briefly talk
> about him, you guys aren't gonna get married. so go ahead
> and give it up, but don't dilude yourself on hopes of
> marriage.

lol!!! that's fucking hilarious. she doesnt have to explain her entire fucking relationship to you or anyone else... she was just asking for a little advice. she wasnt asking "hey, guys... what do you think about my situation with my boyfriend?". why the fuck would you go into detail about a guy if you're just wondering the best way to bring a condom into bed? why would you be anything but brief?

you have no idea how long she's been with this guy. you have no idea how they feel about eachother. you have no idea what their situation is. you know nothing of her or her relationship... so dont fucking pretend like you're all-knowing on the subject.

> p.s. until you see the ring or he pops the question and you
> accept, nothing's gonna happen. promises mean nothing,
> millions of them get broken every day. especially promises
> from guys.

what the hell do you think a proposal with a ring is? it's a promise and an intention to get married. personally, i'm getting married in august of 2005.... but there's no ring on my finger. my fiance didnt get down on one knee or ask me: "will you marry me?". we just had a mutual understanding and decided to start making plans to get married. i know many other couples who did it this same way. when you know, you just know. you dont have to go through textbook formalities if you both know what you want.... you just go with the flow and do what makes you both comfortable.

i heard somewhere that you dont have to be an asshat, asshat.

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[JadussD]

> you're gonna give it up to him in hopes you two will be
> together forever, but sorry to say, the way you briefly talk
> about him, you guys aren't gonna get married. so go ahead
> and give it up, but don't dilude yourself on hopes of
> marriage.

I apologize in advance to anyone else who is named Mike, but is it just me or is everyone named Mike a fucking asshole? Seriously, every Mike I've ever met is a high-fiving, prima-donna fuckhead. I'm sure some are cool, but Mikes like you don't do much to change my perception of the situation..

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[phonymike]

yeah it was off topic, oh well. she just doesn't sound in love. seems like she's giving as much thought into this marriage as she would choosing which shoes to wear in the morning. maybe it's just me, but I like the policy of cash on the barrel head, which turns into "sorry honey, no pussy until our honeymoon."

not to further derail this train anymore, but finding a virgin whom you 'love' and will eventually marry is hard to find these days, you know what I mean? so if she doesn't marry this guy, then her whole (and very good moral) ideal of purity would be lost for the one she does. and I don't know anything about this guy, but I could only guess it's not his first, so it's not like he deserves it or anything. and if it is his first, then he's lying :)

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[phonymike]

maybe it'd be better if I could just delete these posts. they are kinda mean, I just like giving a heads up for things that will happen, such as 'bush will win this election (even though he's not getting my vote)" and "she's not gonna marry this guy" that way in the future people will realise how I'm never wrong.

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[wingless]

> yeah it was off topic, oh well. she just doesn't sound in
> love. seems like she's giving as much thought into this
> marriage as she would choosing which shoes to wear in the
> morning. maybe it's just me, but I like the policy of cash
> on the barrel head, which turns into "sorry honey, no pussy
> until our honeymoon."

dude she's just asking for condom advice... how would that make anyone sound like they're in love? that's like saying: "well, when she said that she wanted eggs for breakfast, i could tell that she wasnt in love with her boyfriend". you made some pretty harsh assumptions based on just a few sentences, too.

> not to further derail this train anymore, but finding a
> virgin whom you 'love' and will eventually marry is hard to
> find these days, you know what I mean?

well, that's the beauty of individual preference and emotions. if someone really loves another person, it shouldnt matter if they're a virgin or not. honestly, who cares? it's all based on personal preference. if a guy thought that there was something wrong with me because i wasnt a virgin, our relationship definitely wouldnt last long. i refuse to be with a guy who looks down on me, ESPECIALLY if it's for something that has nothing to do with our relationship.

if you meet someone who you feel is truly your soulmate, are you going to toss them to the side if they arent a virgin? i dont think it should matter if they're someone you're madly in love with on every level. would you really throw that away based on one little detail?

> marry this guy, then her whole (and very good moral) ideal
> of purity would be lost for the one she does. and I don't
> know anything about this guy, but I could only guess it's
> not his first, so it's not like he deserves it or anything.
> and if it is his first, then he's lying :)

there you go making assumptions again, and treating them like fact. you know nothing. stop pretending that you do.

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[Kuikorosu]

> she wasnt asking "hey, guys... what do you think about my situation
> with my boyfriend?".

Then why did she give us a lot of unneeded detail, about how she felt she was getting in control of her life, and how she was going to marry him? Why didn't she just ask "What's an erotic way to put a condom on my significant other?" The shaky way that the post was written, along with the seemingly half-hearted self-reassurances contained within raised a red flag with some of the people here.

Mike might have been a tad ass-hatted with that post, but some of the people posting here are genuinely concerned. So get a fucking grip.

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[wingless]

> I just like giving a heads up for
> things that will happen, such as 'bush will win this
> election (even though he's not getting my vote)" and "she's
> not gonna marry this guy"

i can understand that... but do you really think that she hasnt thought it through? why just assume that she hasnt?

> that way in the future people will realise how I'm never wrong.

no, they'll just think you're a fucking idiot. <img src=smilies/thumb.gif>

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[phonymike]

> there you go making assumptions again, and treating them
> like fact. you know nothing. stop pretending that you do.

I know guys. I KNOW ALL ABOUT GUYS. I AM a guy. You've MET guys, and every word out of their mouth has been a lie to you. you don't know this of course, because you don't know guys. you think you do, you tell yourself you do, but sorry, you don't. I know guys, and this guy is gonna get her virginity without marrying her. time will tell I'm right, because I know guys.

as for condom advice, if the girl puts it on, make sure to squeeze the tip before putting it on, even leave some slack at the end, cause when the baby batter comes rolling out, and there's not enough room for it, it doesn't feel all that good. it doesn't feel bad, it's not even worth mentioning during the act, but it's nice to have some room there. it's like trying to blow up those really skinny long baloons that you had to use a tire pump to inflate for your birthday parties. only it's not using air, and you can't stop it.

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[wingless]

> I know guys. I KNOW ALL ABOUT GUYS. I AM a guy. You've MET
> guys, and every word out of their mouth has been a lie to
> you. you don't know this of course, because you don't know

> guys. you think you do, you tell yourself you do, but sorry,
> you don't. I know guys, and this guy is gonna get her
> virginity without marrying her. time will tell I'm right,
> because I know guys.

Wow, I finally see the light! You were right... now I know that you are always right no matter what!

Just a thought.... just because you're a jerk doesnt mean that all guys are. I know better than to agree with broad sweeping generalizations. You're giving guys out there a bad name. I hope they thank you for that.

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[wingless]

> Mike might have been a tad ass-hatted with that post, but
> some of the people posting here are genuinely concerned. So
> get a fucking grip.

I can understand how people are concerned, but it seems like she's getting shit for something that she's already made up her mind about. i seriously doubt anything you guys say will change the decision she's made.


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[StormsInHerEyes]

The worse part about all this..
is if I were a guy

nobody would give a damn..
everyone would be high fivin and shit


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[wingless]

> The worse part about all this..
> is if I were a guy
> nobody would give a damn..
> everyone would be high fivin and shit

very good point. that's probably why i'm so frustrated over it.

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[icenine0]

The main reason for that is a stereotypical guy would phrase things completely differently, like "Hell yeah, fellas, I'm gonna get some poontang tonight."

Your post makes it sound like martyrdom. "Yes... I'm having... sex... I've taken this... grave responsibility... upon myself... to get laid... even though... I don't sound... particularly enthusiastic... about the prospect... please help me... get it over with." Sex is a big, big decision --- one only you're qualified to make --- and if you sound hesitant, your friends are going to back you up by being hesitant as well. It's da basics.

> The worse part about all this..
> is if I were a guy

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[Satans Blob]

> I know guys. I KNOW ALL ABOUT GUYS. I AM a guy. You've MET > guys, and every word out of their mouth has been a lie to
> you. you don't know this of course, because you don't know > guys. you think you do, you tell yourself you do, but sorry,
> you don't. I know guys, and this guy is gonna get her > virginity without marrying her. time will tell I'm right,
> because I know guys.

You are a fucking moron. You may know yourself and a few other dipshits. But you do not know all guys, and all guys are not like that. Not all of them are assholes; there are those who are committed and true, who aren't after there own selves but to care for other people.

You are nothing.

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<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr>

I know guys. I KNOW ALL ABOUT GUYS. I AM a guy. You've MET
guys, and every word out of their mouth has been a lie to
you. you don't know this of course, because you don't know
guys. you think you do, you tell yourself you do, but sorry,
you don't. I know guys, and this guy is gonna get her
virginity without marrying her. time will tell I'm right,
because I know guys.

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you know too many guys. why don't you grow up and hang out with some men for a change?

now shut up.

in fact, EVERYONE shut up that's judging kirsten. she asked a simple question, and this has become an attack on her character.

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[mrfreeze]

> in fact, EVERYONE shut up that's judging kirsten. she asked
> a simple question, and this has become an attack on her
> character.
>
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For once I totally agree with you sir.

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[Kuikorosu]

Damn. I couldn't have phrased this better myself.

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[SpaceTiger]

Ugh. This is getting way out of hand.

First of all, let's remember that, as Kuik pointed out, people are being critical because they're concerned. I doubt that anyone is acting out of anger or spite. Second of all, it's not the sex itself that most people are being critical of. I don't know about everybody else, but the line that concerned me most was this:

> But I"m promised, so I'm going to marry the guy, and So I really want this...

It's true that I don't know your boyfriend and that I only even know you casually, but these are words I've seen many times before. It's very common for people to get wrapped up in immediate emotions and believe that their long-term commitment is guaranteed but, of all the cases of this that I've seen IRL, it has never worked out. I imagine that many of the others being critical have had similar experiences. In general, I think you're more likely to succeed with a relationship if you take it one step at a time and try not project too far ahead.

That doesn't mean that it never actually does work out or that it won't work out for you, but it does mean that you should probably be cautious. Be careful making promises you might not be able to keep and taking promises that could shatter your world when broken.

Otherwise, my advice to you is to have fun. If you want to have sex, then do it. It can be a blast. <img src=smilies/cwm11.gif>

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[Goku]

1. Do not rely on a Condom as the only means of protection. Back it up with birth control or spermicidal foam. Condoms break, leak, and fall off occaisionally. Have a safeguard. Condoms are somthing like 80 percent effective alone (4 out 5 times). With spermicidal foam and condom use combined, the odds go up to 99 percent. Know where you can get the morning after pill for a 3rd barrier of protection. BTW, put the spermicidal foam in after he does oral sex on you. It tastes awful (like soap).

2. Know your partners sexual history and sexual diseases. Have them tested. Keep in mind that blood transfusions and sharing needles are carriers of HIV. Condoms do provide a barrier against STDs, but they are not full proof.

2. Always use a condom. Just one failure can result in pregnancy

3. If you start rolling the Condom on the penis the wrong way, throw the condom out. Taking it off and rolling it on the right way risks the condom being contaminated with sperm.

4. Never, under any circumstances (unless for water balloons - ick), reuse condoms

5. Always use your brain. If your encouraged to do it bareback - dont. If he is begging you for sex - uh ah. No glove, no love. Protect yourself. It is your life in your hands. If he needs release and you dont have protection, tell him to go use his hand or give him a blow job.


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[Danoz]

Well, I truly apologize if I seemed like I was judging at all-- that wasn't my intent. I don't really know the people on this board, but this is a public forum where she's posting her question and it's insane to not expect varied responses. So, I'll close my comments in this thread, and end by saying I hope the right decision is made-- whatever decision it is.

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[StormsInHerEyes]

I guess..What I meant by that is..
Even if nothing comes of this..
I want him to be the one to give myself to.. I wouldn't want it to be anyone but him.. and that's what I meant by that.. I didn't mean for it to come out the wrong way

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[SpaceTiger]

> I guess..What I meant by that is..
> Even if nothing comes of this..
> I want him to be the one to give myself to..

That's great! You're lucky to have found someone like that. I hope everything works out for you. <img src=smilies/cwm11.gif>

BTW, about the condom stuff, I think I generally agree with the points Gokuh made.

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[The 9th Sage]

natch

Well this is certainly a broad generalization. I think I'd, I dunno, maybe try to learn more about the BOTH of them before saying something like this.

I guess that's me though.
*edit*
And the people being assholes (breaking promises and what not) that happens with women and men, for the record. I know I've been hurt BAD.

I'm not saying that's gonna happen to you though Kirsten.

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[The 9th Sage]

> dude she's just asking for condom advice... how would that
> make anyone sound like they're in love? that's like saying:
> "well, when she said that she wanted eggs for breakfast, i
> could tell that she wasnt in love with her boyfriend".

You are awesome! <img src=smilies/laff.gif> I wish I'd thought to say what I was thinking about this in that way.

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[The 9th Sage]

> I know guys. I KNOW ALL ABOUT GUYS. I AM a guy. You've MET
> guys, and every word out of their mouth has been a lie to
> you.

I'm a guy too, and personally (although of course there's men like this...there's also WOmen like this) I think that is a load of bull. You say you know yourself, and all guys...and that they're all like that. IN that case I'd suggest you change your ways a bit and find a new circle of friends with wich to hang out.

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[wingless]

>

LOL!!!! ohhh man, that cracked my shit up!! <img src=smilies/laff.gif>

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[wingless]

> 1. Do not rely on a Condom as the only means of protection.

all great advice <img src=smilies/thumb.gif>

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[Brooksee]

> > 1. Do not rely on a Condom as the only means of
> protection.
>
> all great advice
>


Very much so.. And I must applaud on this!!

BTW, if you aren't on the pill or haven't had a gyno exam. Please go do so soon. 18 isn't too young to go. And by the way... Saying this as the resident 'hoe' I suppose...

If you go/went through with this, I really hope you enjoy(ed) yourself. Sex can be a very wonderful thing and can be a very distructive thing. Always remember that.

And if at anytime you are uncomfortable, tell him and stop. K? Make sure that it is clear before you get into a situation that either party can stop if they are uncomfortable. :)

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