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RedXIII
09-11-2004, 01:43 PM
http://worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_12.html

Muslim group takes responsibility for 9-11: 'We are so sorry'


Special to World Tribune.com
www.freemuslims.org
Friday, September 10, 2004

We Are So Sorry for 9-11
This September 11 marks the third unforgettable anniversary of the worst mass murder in American history.

After September 11, many in the Muslim world chose denial and hallucination rather than face up to the sad fact that Muslims perpetrated the 9-11 terrorist acts and that we have an enormous problem with extremism and support for terrorism. Many Muslims, including religious leaders, and “intellectuals” blamed 9-11 on a Jewish conspiracy and went as far as fabricating a tale that 4000 Jews did not show up for work in the World Trade Center on 9-11. Yet others blamed 9-11 on an American right wing conspiracy or the U.S. Government which allegedly wanted an excuse to invade Iraq and “steal” Iraqi oil.

After numerous admissions of guilt by Bin Laden and numerous corroborating admissions by captured top level Al-Qaida operatives, we wonder, does the Muslim leadership have the dignity and courage to apologize for 9-11?
If not 9-11, will we apologize for the murder of school children in Russia?

If not Russia, will we apologize for the train bombings in Madrid, Spain?

If not Spain, will we apologize for suicide bombings in buses, restaurants and other public places?

If not suicide bombings, will we apologize for the barbaric beheadings of human beings?

If not beheadings, will we apologize for the rape and murder of thousands of innocent people in Darfour?

If not Darfour, will we apologize for the blowing up of two Russian planes by Muslim women?

What will we apologize for?

What will it take for Muslims to realize that those who commit mass murder in the name of Islam are not just a few fringe elements?

What will it take for Muslims to realize that we are facing a crisis that is more deadly than the Aids epidemic?

What will it take for Muslims to realize that there is a large evil movement that is turning what was a peaceful religion into a cult?

Will Muslims wake up before it is too late? Or will we continue blaming the Jews and an imaginary Jewish conspiracy? The blaming of all Muslim problems on Jews is a cancer that is destroying Muslim society from within and it must stop.

Muslims must look inward and put a stop to many of our religious leaders who spend most of their sermons teaching hatred, intolerance and violent jihad. We should not be afraid to admit that as Muslims we have a problem with violent extremism. We should not be afraid to admit that so many of our religious leaders belong behind bars and not behind a pulpit.

Only moderate Muslims can challenge and defeat extremist Muslims. We can no longer afford to be silent. If we remain silent to the extremism within our community then we should not expect anyone to listen to us when we complain of stereotyping and discrimination by non-Muslims; we should not be surprised when the world treats all of us as terrorists; we should not be surprised when we are profiled at airports.

Simply put, not only do Muslims need to join the war against terror, we need to take the lead in this war.

As to apologizing, we will no longer wait for our religious leaders and “intellectuals” to do the right thing. Instead, we will start by apologizing for 9-11.

We are so sorry that 3000 people were murdered in our name. We will never forget the sight of people jumping from two of the highest buildings in the world hoping against hope that if they moved their arms fast enough that they may fly and survive a certain death from burning.

We are sorry for blaming 9-11 on a Jewish or right wing conspiracy.

We are so sorry for the murder of more than three hundred school children and adults in Russia.

We are so sorry for the murder of train passengers in Spain.

We are so sorry for all the victims of suicide bombings. We are so sorry for the beheadings, abductions, rapes, violent Jihad and all the atrocities committed by Muslims around the world.

We are so sorry for a religious education that raised killers rather than train people to do good in the world. We are sorry that we did not take the time to teach our children tolerance and respect for other people.

We are so sorry for not rising up against the dictators who have ruled the Muslim world for decades.

We are so sorry for allowing corruption to spread so fast and so deep in the Muslim world that many of our youth lost hope.

We are so sorry for allowing our religious leaders to relegate women to the status of forth class citizens at best and sub-humans at worse.

We are so sorry.

For more information visit our website at: www.freemuslims.org.

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Fla Flash
09-11-2004, 01:52 PM
You missed the whole point of the article.
It's the good apples in the barrel apologizing for what the bad ones did....these people are ashamed of what happened, even shocked, to a certain extent.
They (the ones who did all this apologizing) are the only hope for the Muslim religion, perhaps. If it is to, or can be saved.
I hope for them, they can pull it off.

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Mr. Saturn
09-11-2004, 02:54 PM
It's RedXIII. You know, the guy who was banned for being racist and overly vitriolic towards Muslims. Then apologized about it, then started doing it again.
Not to mention the shock pictures. Red does shock pictures, on multiple occasions, and nothing comes of it except a deletion of the pictures. Lillymon does it (IIRC) once, and she gets banned for the weekend. Red should be rebanned, but I wouldn't hold my breath. <img src=smilies/thumb.gif>

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MooglyGuy
09-11-2004, 05:49 PM
] It's RedXIII. You know, the guy who was banned for being
] racist and overly vitriolic towards Muslims. Then apologized
] about it, then started doing it again.
] Not to mention the shock pictures. Red does shock pictures,
] on multiple occasions, and nothing comes of it except a
] deletion of the pictures. Lillymon does it (IIRC) once, and
] she gets banned for the weekend. Red should be rebanned,
] but I wouldn't hold my breath.

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Lillymon
09-11-2004, 07:23 PM
> Lillymon does it (IIRC) once, and she gets banned for the weekend.
> Red should be rebanned, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

I still think that picture was fucking hilarious. But if I'd know it would've offended Danoz... ah, who am I kidding? I would've posted it anyway! It was totally worth it.

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Mr. Saturn
09-11-2004, 07:47 PM
> I still think that picture was fucking hilarious. But if I'd
> know it would've offended Danoz... ah, who am I kidding? I
> would've posted it anyway! It was totally worth it.

I had it as my wallpaper for a while. <img src=smilies/thumb.gif>

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Gokuh
09-11-2004, 07:50 PM
I want to see it! <img src=smilies/cry.gif>

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Mr. Saturn
09-11-2004, 08:45 PM
> I want to see it!
>
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Fla Flash
09-12-2004, 01:21 AM
Please, put a link up to that. Not the pic.
Now.
As far as Red is concerned, one more fucking racist remark (such as wiping out a whole religion because of fanatical followers) he's done.

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Danoz
09-12-2004, 02:26 AM
> Red is concerned, one more fucking racist remark (such as
> wiping out a whole religion because of fanatical followers)
> he's done.

You know, men claiming to do the work of the Christian God have committed atrocities of evil. The claims and beliefs of dishonerable men are not the fault of the doctrine, but of the men. Extremist interpretations and cults of death and murder are to blame. To put all Muslim men, women and children in line with terrorists makes a person's perspective as close-minded and irrational as the terrorist who sees all American and Christian men, women and children as the eternal enemy. Be mindful of your anger, it's turns otherwise good intentions into evil actions.

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Fla Flash
09-12-2004, 02:33 AM
Wow.
Dude, we're on the same page. *high fives Danoz*<img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

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09-12-2004, 02:42 AM
You rock so much. <img src=smilies/werd.gif>

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RedXIII
09-12-2004, 04:24 AM
> As far as
> Red is concerned, one more fucking racist remark (such as
> wiping out a whole religion because of fanatical followers)
> he's done.
>

Do what you want. I suppose now posting a link to a news article written by Muslims is racist, considering on however you want to spin it.

By the way. Can anyone tell me or point me to a link where any Muslims gathered enmass today to reflect on the events that happened 3 years ago? I've been searching, but came up emety handed. Sadly the silence is deafening.

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king killa
09-12-2004, 05:19 AM
> By the way. Can anyone tell me or point me to a link where
> any Muslims gathered enmass today to reflect on the events
> that happened 3 years ago? I've been searching, but came up
> emety handed. Sadly the silence is deafening.
>

Did you take a moment of silence on the anniversery of when we disrespected muslim holy grounds? Did you ever take a moment of silence reflecting on what U.S. solders did to Korean women and children? Did you ever take a moment of silence for any innocent iraqis killed by our troops in the past couple years?

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The 9th Sage
09-12-2004, 05:37 AM
>Red should be rebanned,
> but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Yeah, that's his history in a nut shell alright. All I'll say is that I wasn't responsible for his unbanning back before I left, so it must have been someone else more recently.

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Mr. Saturn
09-12-2004, 06:23 AM
> Please, put a link up to that. Not the pic.

Maximum edit time expired.

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RedXIII
09-12-2004, 02:12 PM
> Did you take a moment .................blah blah blah

So I guess the answer is no. No one can point out to me where there was a large outpouring of sympathy in the Muslim community.

Your ability to turn a blind eye to this fact is duly noted.

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king killa
09-12-2004, 02:36 PM
> So I guess the answer is no. No one can point out to me
> where there was a large outpouring of sympathy in the Muslim
> community.
>
> Your ability to turn a blind eye to this fact is duly noted.
>

Red, I would bet hundreds and thousands of dollars that you are no more sympathetic than the average innocent muslim.

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Fla Flash
09-12-2004, 02:39 PM
And your ability to turn a blind eye to the fact that exterminating a race because of their religion is comparable to the attempt of Adolph Hitler is also duly noted.
America is way better than that.
At least I thought we were.

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Gokuh
09-12-2004, 04:10 PM
http://www.wnbc.com/anniversary/1660032/detail.html

http://www.pakistanlink.com/Community/2003/sept03/19/03.html


Those are local american groups. As for international, did you ever think that you cannot find them because the services are being reported in a different language?

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RedXIII
09-12-2004, 04:22 PM
> http://www.wnbc.com/anniversary/1660032/detail.html

Here's the headline from this article.

Muslim Group Stitches Together 9/11 Memorial
Quilt Represents How American-Muslim Community Feels Nation's Pain

POSTED: 4:27 pm EDT September 10, 2002 <-------- This isn't yesterday
UPDATED: 7:40 pm EDT September 10, 2002 <--------- Neither is this

>
> http://www.pakistanlink.com/Community/2003/sept03/19/03.html <------- September of 2003? Still not yesterday. I'm looking for links associated with yesterday.



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Fla Flash
09-12-2004, 04:27 PM
You've just gone and invalidated half of your diatribe.
All Muslims need to be wiped out. That was what your whole tone through this thread is.
Don't those people, with those actions, show you that all are not alike?
As people of any color are?
Perception of a race depends on how good one's vision is.
Apparently, you have tunnel vision.

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king killa
09-12-2004, 05:47 PM
You racist mother fucking prick.
What the fuck does it matter if they remember and show their support on the fucking 10th or 11th!? They did it because of 9/11.

You're a fucking ass. Your argument is dead. Go salute your Hitler poster. <img src=smilies/angryfire.gif>

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Gokuh
09-12-2004, 05:48 PM
Why?

Do you really think that there is going to be an everlasting shame in the Muslim community because of what a few islamic radicals have done? Or do you think that just maybe, just maybe, that the arab community is upset with what is happening in Iraq.

Or maybe Al Ghirab? Frankly, your being rediculous. The community marked the first annivasary. They are not going to mark it year after year until eternity.




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Prower
09-12-2004, 06:12 PM
I think it's time you took your prejudices somewhere else.

Anyone that has a problem with this thread being closed, please let me know.

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