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Mr. Saturn
06-21-2004, 05:32 AM
<a href=http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/06/20/iraq.main/index.html>Here.</a>

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Narvick
06-21-2004, 12:41 PM
I know, it's terrible. We need to find these people and kill them and end this.


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Kuikorosu
06-21-2004, 05:37 PM
These people are savages. How could someone kill an innocent human being who was in the wrong place at the wrong time? Just to make a political point.

This is massively fucked up.

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Paladyn
06-21-2004, 10:08 PM
> Here.

If were the president of South Korea, I'd send this to Iraq:

Dear Mr. Al-Qaeda Thug,
In order to help establish and maintain security in Iraq, I will now send 6,000 troops instead of the 3,000 I had planned. We hope that this will ensure less occurrances of hostage-taking. If this proves to not be the case, We will be forced to send more.

Sincerely,
Roh Moo Hyun

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thegodofhellfire
06-21-2004, 10:11 PM
> In order to help establish and maintain security in Iraq, I
> will now send 6,000 troops instead of the 3,000 I had
> planned. We hope that this will ensure less occurrances of
> hostage-taking. If this proves to not be the case, We will
> be forced to send more.

Well, your righteous indignation is all fair and well, but those kind of tactics hardly worked for Israel, did they?

EDIT: 800 posts?! So much posting, so little fresh air. Sigh...

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icenine0
06-21-2004, 10:21 PM
Ok, how about this:

Give us back our steenking hostages or we'll have North Korea blow your country up, mang!

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thegodofhellfire
06-21-2004, 10:22 PM
> Ok, how about this:
>
> Give us back our stee-nking hostages or we'll have North
> Korea blow your country up, mang!

LOL... it sounds crazy, but it just might work!

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Paladyn
06-21-2004, 10:35 PM
> Well, your righteous indignation is all fair and well, but
> those kind of tactics hardly worked for Israel, did they?

Al Qaeda doesn't want all South Koreans dead.

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thegodofhellfire
06-21-2004, 10:41 PM
> Al Qaeda doesn't want all South Koreans dead.

What I'm saying is that a revenge psychology (or at least one that says "Well, let's see how they like this!"), just doesn't work. To that extent, I think the analogy stands.

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SpaceTiger
06-21-2004, 11:01 PM
I wonder how much these beheadings are really helping them. Although it certainly breeds discontent among the populations of the attacking countries, it doesn't seem as if it would help win the ideological war they've been trying to fight. The power of 9/11 was in its symbolism. For a non-American, it was probably very easy to distance yourself from the death that occurred inside and just see it as a strike against American power. This, however, is much more graphic. Even with religious backing, I don't see this sort of thing swaying many fence-sitters.

If one assumes that it was actually thought out beforehand (an assumption I certainly hesitate to make), then the best motivation I can think of is to stimulate aggression. The sending of more troops to Iraq would likely lead to more support for their cause, just as in the Israel-Palestine issue. On the other hand, perhaps the motivation is as simple as they say -- to encourage the removal of troops from Iraq. Either way, I don't think any additional action we could take would be to our benefit. I think the wisest thing is just to continue as if it didn't happen.

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maq112k2
06-21-2004, 11:02 PM
If the media would stop showing these damn videos, maybe they'd stop. :-\

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SpaceTiger
06-21-2004, 11:11 PM
> If the media would stop showing these damn videos, maybe
> they'd stop. :-\

True, but the only way to get the media to stop is to have the viewers complain. If enough people get pissy, they'll stop showing them (remember when they stopped showing the videos of people falling from the WTC). I suppose the government could censor the broadcasts, but that's a can of worms I really wouldn't want to open.

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icenine0
06-21-2004, 11:13 PM
Yeah. I sure hope it's doing something to restore US international reputation... A friend of mine just got back from a group trip to Europe, and he said there was a very palpable sensation of hatred in nearly every country he travelled through. Their bags were lost, their hotel reservations were revoked multiple times, they were spat on in Amsterdam, etc. etc.

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MooglyGuy
06-22-2004, 12:03 AM
> they were spat on in Amsterdam, etc. etc.

Just to make sure, the group did do the right thing and beat the spitters in the face, right?

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GeminiMan
06-22-2004, 10:43 AM
I can't think of anything more retarded those extremists could have done. If anything, I think that tape will just piss off those 3000 Korean troops.

And they, of course, nobody can/will stop these tapes from entering the mainstreem media. Even if it was for the better in this case, the Government trying to censor out international affairs would pretty much be removing one of my rights as far as I'm concerned (and I think it would be... Freedom of the Press would beat the Gov't in court in this sort of instance, I think).

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thegodofhellfire
06-22-2004, 09:24 PM
> Well, your righteous indignation is all fair and well, but
> those kind of tactics hardly worked for Israel, did they?

Actually, I read a good opinion piece on the subject in today's Guardian (also available online here (http://politics.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9115,1244473,00.html)) which was written by a Conservative MP in the UK. While I'd hasten to distance myself from the party itself, Crispin Blunt speaks some sense on this matter. To give a bit of background, he was with a delegation of MPs, etc, visiting the Israel-Egypt border who were actually shot at by the Israeli army. See:

British MPs 'fired at' in Gaza (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3821485.stm)
Israeli army probes MP 'shooting' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3823045.stm)
(both sources: BBC News Online)

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icenine0
06-23-2004, 12:06 AM
Well, the spitters were on top of a building, so... unfortunately, no.

Oh yeah, they also said "AMSTERDAM ROXXXXX!"

> Just to make sure, the group did do the right thing and beat
> the spitters in the face, right?
>

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MasterHD
06-23-2004, 12:18 AM
Really, I'm just more pissed off at the terrorists now, and I'll bet so are the Korean troops there.

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Kuikorosu
06-23-2004, 05:46 AM
How do these fuckers sleep at night?

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