Dems vs GOP

[pipes]

Why?
It's like spy vs spy. Same shit, different color.
News makes it like it's the drama of the decade.
WHY CAN'T I VOTE A REAL PROFESSIONAL IN OFFICE?
I can't.
So I boycotted the elections this year.
What is the use when no one represents me, and they are going to do shit if I like it or not.
-VOTE FOR ME I AM FAMILY AND CHRISTIAN!!!
Yeah that's going to get you to read bills and do real fucking work with research and shit.

[InVerse]

So fix it.

[pipes]

it's not that I haven't thought of it.
Back in the day of the presidential elections, I thought about what would happen if I went door to door talking about what I was going to do, how I was going to do it, and get people to sign a ballot to get me into the elections. What would happen?
The sad thing is I don't have the time, and nor am I a politician. I can't be every profession, but GOD how do I want to be. There is like so much I want to do. I wish I could live longer and somehow multiply myself, because I always see something and I think to myself, "I could do better."

[InVerse]

Everybody thinks they can do better. 99.9% of people never try because they're afraid of being proven wrong.

[schmocke]

And those who´ve tried were proven wrong. History repeats.

[InVerse]

You're right. Nobody in history has ever succeeded at anything.

[Shadow]

I think Ghandi succeeded...

Well I for myself have found my own way of "change". I founded my own company. It was a difficult decision. You know it took me very long to find out, that this is the best way for me to help. As a single person it's too hard to stay tough and climb the ladder in politics without getting corrupted sooner or later. There are too many lobbies which tend to push you out of their way. So.. in my company I can do as I like. There are laws and rules of course, but I can say that I really create new jobs. It's better than complaining all day and better than doing nothing. Of course it's not the perfect solution for everything but it's a start.

Regarding Dems vs GOP... it's really hard to vote if no party represents your interests. That's why I don't vote in Germany as well. I don't find the perfect party not even in parts. In the end it's our choice what to do, even if it means no voting at all.

[schmocke]

Yes, there are people who succeeded. In specific, individual ways. Agreed.
I´m from Germany too and I gave my vote. Of course there is no party who says only the perfect and right things. Since voting is one of the last things we can do to state a position, I do vote.
Kurt Tucholsky, a german writer once claimed: Wenn Wahlen etwas ändern würden, dann wären sie verboten. - in English, it could sound like: If elections would change something, they´d be banned. That in mind, you have two choices: Don´t care and letting the things go on as usual or make your vote, perhaps something changes.

[D--]

InVerse: Fixing America would be like trying to glue together shattered Egyptian pottery where half the missing pieces have turned into dust.

Sometimes it pays to admit something is fucked beyond repair and move on, or in the case, move out.

I believe that if all the sane people leave America and go make the rest of the world better, the shitwits left behind will decide to nuke themselves into an early Rapture so they can go to Happy Land with their sky king.

[Reaper man]

Sometimes it pays to admit something is fucked beyond repair and move on, or in the case, move out.

A lot of us people here have no such luxury...

[InVerse]

InVerse: Fixing America would be like trying to glue together shattered Egyptian pottery where half the missing pieces have turned into dust.

Sometimes it pays to admit something is fucked beyond repair and move on, or in the case, move out.

Some people are more suited for destroying the machine from the inside. It's popular for whiners to view the U.S. government as a big, evil conspiracy but it has been proven time and again that the only reason the people are in charge is because it's a matter of the ignorant leading the retarded. All it takes is a single bullet to reduce an ignorant person to a lower brain function than a retard.


I believe that if all the sane people leave America and go make the rest of the world better, the shitwits left behind will decide to nuke themselves into an early Rapture so they can go to Happy Land with their sky king.

The fucktards in charge are primarily exclusionary elitists. If everyone were to stop kowtowing to them and leave, I think they'd be delighted. I have no doubt that that they'd simply plug their children into the menial tasks they refuse to do themselves. Even if it worked, it would take a couple of generations, something I'm not willing to wait for.


A lot of us people here have no such luxury...

I think you mean "A lot of us people here have far too much luxury and aren't willing to give that up for the suboptimal existence it might require of us to leave the comfort of the familiar."

[D--]

A lot of us people here have no such luxury...

Bull. Fucking. Shit.

I did it. You can too.

Like Inverse said, people aren't willing to leave their comfort zones and take a risk.

Make no mistake, leaving behind your social connections, language, hometown, family and every other thing that has supported you in hopes of finding opportunity that may or may not really exist somewhere else is a big risk.

I had absolutely no hope whatsoever of life in the USA improving, so taking that risk was a relatively easy decision for me.

[Reaper man]

Bull. Fucking. Shit.

I did it. You can too.

Like Inverse said, people aren't willing to leave their comfort zones and take a risk.

Make no mistake, leaving behind your social connections, language, hometown, family and every other thing that has supported you in hopes of finding opportunity that may or may not really exist somewhere else is a big risk.

I had absolutely no hope whatsoever of life in the USA improving, so taking that risk was a relatively easy decision for me.


I have no job, and I only get around 535 a month. Now, tell me how I'm supposed to afford moving out of the country again?

[InVerse]

A passport only costs a little over $100. Walking doesn't cost anything. With a generous budget of $2/day for food (I've survived on much less in the past), that $535 will last you well over six months.

It's pretty easy to get a job on a merchant ship that will drop you off in whatever ports of call they're headed toward. It's not even particularly difficult to get a job on a cruise ship that will keep you on the water for six months at a time.

[Reaper man]

you seem to be forgetting the massive amounts of stuff I have here.

[InVerse]

Thus my original comment. It isn't that you don't have the luxury of moving, it's that you have too many luxuries to move.

[D--]

And if you're not willing to work on a ship, eat for less than $2/day for 3-4 months and you will most likely have saved enough to buy an airplane ticket. Pack whatever shit matters to you into two suitcases or cardboard boxes and off you go.

Can't take everything? Too fucking bad. I left behind a LOT of stuff too. Again, this comes down to deciding what really matters to you. Since you are not willing to dump your luxuries, they are clearly more important to you than leaving the country.

[pipes]

this is what my brother did

sold EVERYTHING but some pants and shirts, xbox, a dog and left.
Something, like reaper man, I don't want to do that because I have worked too hard for the little shit I do have, and would rather find a different way to move out west.
must... find... job...
plus I have student loans and if I drop out have to pay them back. I also just transferred from my old college so I don't have enough credit hours to get into another university at the moment