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SwampGas
12-11-2003, 06:29 AM
i didn't want to discuss it, but i have to get it off my chest.

from my post elsewhere:

<blockquote> I was curious as to what my guardian angel's name was, so I've been asking lately.

This morning (stayed up all night) I was JUST about to sleep when I started doing and thinking stuff. I don't even remember what got me started (probably because I was half asleep), but I heard myself say (in my head) "what is your name"? I felt my head want to move up and my eyes open.

I asked it again. My head wanted to move up again and look at an area. I figured out I was looking at the bible sitting on the other side of my room. I asked if I was supposed to get the bible and my head kind of shook up and down to signify "yes". I asked if this person was my guardian angel and my head shook "yes" again. I got the book, sat back on the bed, and it felt like my hands WANTED to go somewhere...I just had to move them myself...weird feeling. I opened the bible, to a part, turned a page, and then I felt like pointing to something.

Just my luck..it's in Hebrew. I pointed to the word "aleph bet yod aleph"...(Hebrew is right to left). First alpeh had a vowel that looks like a "T" under it with a backwards "L" next to it...the bet has a dot under it.

I asked if there was anything else he/she wanted to tell me. Nothing. I asked again. Shook my head no and closed the book on my finger (to hold the page). Marked it with a piece of paper and put it away.

Excitement kept me from sleeping...5 mins later I'm online researching Hebrew (been WAY too long to remember it). It didn't make any sense to me...then I felt the need to write it down. After I wrote it down, I felt the need to point at the page....I pointed at text close to what I had pointed out with my finger. Must have got the wrong message.

This time I pointed at "chet qof nun zayin". I wrote down "ch q N Z". This isn't making sense...so I said "what is your name?" and left the pen on the paper. It was SO weird...my hand was moving at my command, yet it was like it was moving on its own. I wrote down in baby-looking print letters "C h u c k". I asked if his name was Chuck and I wrote down "C h u c t". I asked if he was my guardian angel and I wrote "N O".

Freaked. Dropped the pen and said "GO AWAY."

But wait..maybe it was a spirit guide. My bad...now I feel dumb. I asked if he was my spirit guide...I wrote "O N". Asked again and wrote a smudged "O" and something that looked like an "N". Then I wrote "N O".

Asked who he was and I got gibberish...looks like "O C H A O G E". Then I wrote a bunch of gibberish again that looks like "q" and some circle things. Then I wrote "6 6 6" but the 6s were backwards (kind of like an incomplete fancy number 2 or a capital "Q" in script).

After that I figured it was my "friend" being a @#%$ and trying to scare me again. Now my fingers are cold and I have an uneasy, chilling feeling in my stomach like I'm FREEZING, but I'm not really that cold.</blockquote>
isildur told me that i was looking in the book of jonah. no idea what this is all about.

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KaoruDono
12-11-2003, 06:35 AM
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> After that I figured it was my "friend" being a @#%$ and
> trying to scare me again.
>

Again? This has happened to you before?


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pipes
12-11-2003, 11:22 AM
I would have to warn you that being a medium is forbidden by God and you should not talk to spirits or anything of the like! Fallen angels like to pretend to be what they are not, like a guardian angel! Just a heads up!

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Fla Flash
12-11-2003, 11:41 AM
> I would have to warn you that being a medium is forbidden by
> God and you should not talk to spirits or anything of the
> like! Fallen angels like to pretend to be what they are
> not, like a guardian angel! Just a heads up!
>


Or one of my ex-wives.
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SwampGas
12-11-2003, 06:19 PM
> I would have to warn you that being a medium is forbidden by
> God and you should not talk to spirits or anything of the
> like! Fallen angels like to pretend to be what they are
> not, like a guardian angel! Just a heads up!

that's why i told whoever it was to LEAVE. angels, guides, etc don't screw around with you and give you mysteries the solve...they're very upfront and to the point.

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shawn
12-11-2003, 08:43 PM
I don't really believe in guardian angels myself. I go by the belief of Karma myself as in whatever you do good or bad comes back to you and sometimes in bigger quantities than what you dose out so if your good then good things happen to you and if your bad then bad things happen like a little bank of luck or destiny. So when I see someone who is stuck in the snow I stop and give them a push and if I see someone trying to pickup/carry something to heavy I do it for them and hope this good deed gets noticed but even if it doesn't I feel better anyways for making someone elses day a little better. <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>
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punjman
12-11-2003, 11:58 PM
hmm. Do you have any kind of spiritistic practice? Like divination, do you use a Ouija Board, Tarot cards, or do you meditate, trying to clear your mind of everything?

If you do, you could be having problems with demons.

I'm not making fun of you, or anything. I don't believe in guardian angels, fate, or any of that, but I know that there are forces out there that are not kind to humans, that's why I ask.

This may sound odd, and I may get flamed for this, but to any who flame me.. fuck off. Here goes.

One of my family members is one of Jehovah's Witnesses, right? So in the past, I was having problems with something or someone bothering me. it wasnt just at night. *things* would just happen, and it would scare me to death. Id hear voices, see shadows, things would move, Id wake up after being pushed, KNOWING i felt two hands with 5 fingers each push my back, and not finding anything in the room, with the door closed. So I talked to that relative, they said it was more than likely demons that were bothering me. They gave me some tips.. Get rid of any kind of spiritistic item, be it the Satanic Bible (had one) upsidedown stars, books pertaining to the supernatural, Tarot cards, voodoo books or peraphernalia, (sp?) etc, and especially things that just gave me an irking feeling. I had a few items I had been given by some people that always kinda bugged me, but I never got rid of them.

So I got rid of the stuff, I burned them one day. And I still had a couple of problems, but it wasnt as bad. So I approached my relative again, and they tell me "just say the name 'Jehovah' and they will immediately leave you alone. They are afraid of even hearing that name."

I thought it was BS, but I had one problem one night, and it was happening over and over again, the doors in my apartment would open, and slam, one at a time, as if someone was running through the place and opening/closing doors. So I thought about what my relative had said, and I just blurted out "Help me Jehovah". It stopped, i mean it CEASED, immediately. A while later, (few days or so) it happened again, and I did the same thing... same thing happened.

After a couple more times, I was never bothered again. Im not saying I know how to fix any of these problems, all im saying is that because of just saying that name, I was left alone, then never bothered again, and its been several years since that happened.

Just my experience.

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sephiroth111
12-12-2003, 04:05 AM
> that's why i told whoever it was to LEAVE. angels, guides,
> etc don't screw around with you and give you mysteries the
> solve...they're very upfront and to the point.

hmph, i have 3 ghosts in my house, you'd think that one would talk...but they freak me out anyway, anyway, point being, prehapse you imagined it, maybe it was that pre-sleep thing. i dont know. but the supernatural wierds me out a bit.

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SwampGas
12-12-2003, 10:31 AM
ouija boards and items of the dark arts cause horrid problems. i don't participate in that nonsense.

it's not a demon....i'm protected from evil.

i think it's just someone parading around trying to scare someone.

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punjman
12-12-2003, 02:03 PM
Protected from evil? how so?

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SwampGas
12-12-2003, 06:46 PM
> Protected from evil? how so?

i protected myself. it's called faith.

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SwampGas
12-12-2003, 07:35 PM
You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.

I have no issue with you, my brother....however I cannot guarantee that the other moderators won't enforce the rules.

God bless.

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Mr. Saturn
12-12-2003, 07:35 PM
OMG UR SO LAEM SHUT PU ANAL PUKE!

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Isildur
12-12-2003, 07:45 PM
> Hey cool. I didn't know that guardian angels and Jesus
> Christ himself promoted stealing money from people under the
> guise of selling products that never get shipped!
>
> Hell, I ought to start being a crazy Christian fatty just
> like you!

Your reading comprehension is simply mind-boggling. <img src=smilies/upeyes.gif>

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Lillymon
12-12-2003, 08:21 PM
> Hey cool. I didn't know that guardian angels and Jesus
> Christ himself promoted stealing money from people under the
> guise of selling products that never get shipped!
>
> Hell, I ought to start being a crazy Christian fatty just
> like you!

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punjman
12-12-2003, 09:38 PM
ah.

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Reaper man
12-13-2003, 02:12 AM
> Here there be demons. Just as in ye head.


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MooglyGuy
12-13-2003, 04:54 AM
It's sad to see that people have such little faith in God nowadays that anytime someone genuinely has contact with something not of this world they're immediately ridiculed and slapped with a "schizo" tag.

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SpaceTiger
12-13-2003, 06:10 AM
I suggest you explore the possibility that this was psychosomatic. I don't know of any spirits that speak in gibberish, but the human mind is quite adept at it. I sometimes like to shut off my conscious thoughts and write down the first things that come to my head. It's harder than it sounds, but the results are always pretty random.

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shawn
12-13-2003, 01:45 PM
> I suggest you explore the possibility that this was
> psychosomatic. I don't know of any spirits that speak in
> gibberish, but the human mind is quite adept at it.

Agreed, I have had my mind do bullshit stuff to me especially when I was younger when I was under a lot of stress in my personal and work life and from the posts SwampGas has been making the past few weeks here I wouldn't rule this out at all, and this could be his brains way of unloading stress like when you're dreaming. <img src=smilies/magbiggrin.gif>

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