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Octocrook
12-03-2003, 12:20 AM
Just out of curiosity that's been looming inside me for a while, I took a bi-polar questionnaire. Comments on answers are in *s.

1. Has there ever been a period of time when you were not your usual self and...

...you felt so good or so hyper that other people thought you were not your normal self or you were so hyper that you got into trouble?
YES *a lot of times when I'm making a song that I think sounds amazing, I'll be hyperly and intensively working on it to finish it, sometimes into the wee hours of the morning*

...you were so irritable that you shouted at people or started fights or arguments?
YES *I'll start the most mundane arguments with my mom, or I'll belittle her over things she does wrong, though mostly that's cuz she does it to me*

...you felt much more self-confident than usual?
YES

...you got much less sleep than usual and found you didn't really miss it?
YES *a lot of times, if I stay up late making music, I either wind up sleeping onyl about 2-4 hours or not even sleeping at all, and I'll be full of energy*

...you were much more talkative or spoke much faster than usual?
YES *anytime I do something well like bowling or chess*

...thoughts raced through your head or you couldn't slow your mind down?
YES *this happens to me all the time*

...you were so easily distracted by things around you that you had trouble concentrating or staying on track?
YES *I find it difficult to focus on work, especially school-related stuff like studying and homework*

...you had much more energy than usual?
YES

...you were much more active or did many more things than usual?
YES

...you were much more social or outgoing than usual, for example, you telephoned friends in the middle of the night?
NO *there are times when I'm more social or outgoing than usual, but not to an extent that I would answer yes to this question*

...you were much more interested in sex than usual?
YES *it comes in nightmarish quantities too*

...you did things that were unusual for you or that other people might have thought were excessive, foolish, or risky?
YES *not risky, but excessive and foolish yes. I don't even want to go into some of the food binging I've done*

...spending money got you or your family into trouble?
NO *more like not yet...I'm hurriedly getting into money trouble*

2. If you checked YES to more than one of the above, have several of these ever happened during the same period of time?

YES

3. How much of a problem did any of these cause you - like being unable to work; having family, money or legal troubles; getting into arguments or fights?

Moderate Problem *never been in physical fights with my family, but my inability to handle college is going to get me thrown out maybe as soon as this semester*

"Your answers indicate the possibility of bipolar disorder. We recommend you print a copy of this completed questionnaire (using the print key on your Internet toolbar) and share the results with your physician and/or a mental health professional and that you request a comprehensive evaluation for bipolar spectrum disorder."

So I don't really know what to think of this. I've pretty much been at various levels of depression for the last 4 or 5 years of my life. Sometimes I'm relatively stable and the days just seem monotonous and the future uncertain, but sometimes, like today at college, I didn't do so well on a test, and right when I got in my car and closed the door, I was yelling a stream of obscenities at the top of my lungs like I'm pretty much getting used to doing. My mood didn't improve much when I almost got into 2 accidents on my way home thanks to other piece of fucking shit fucking sorry ass drivers that I seem to encounter all the fucking time. And now, here I am, gorging the hell out of a bag of jerky, soon to turn on the TV and pretty much blindly watch whatever, worriedly anticipating my mom coming home and whatever wrath she'll have for me tonight, and then I'll monotonously do my fucking job that I hate, then who knows what I'll fill my bored mind with. Besides that I've thought that maybe I fit the Bi-Polar bill, I looked up that questionnaire because today, in the course of about an hour, I went from relatively happy and giddy (mostly remnants of a fun night I had last night) to nearly suicidal rage, feeling subhuman, etc etc.

Part of why I hide it from friends and family is because in my family, I'm like the "last hope". Because I'm as smart as I am, because none of the rest of my family graduated college, because my brother and sister got fucked up on drugs when they were my age and ended up probably about as mentally unstable as I am now, I'm supposed to be superman...I'm supposed to be the perfect kid that will go on to become the emperor of the world. And in reality, I'm the weakest person I know. I can barely even give an unforced look into people's eyes because I feel like such trash. Every time I tell my mom how I feel, she gives this "be grateful for what you have" bit....every fucking time, like it's magically supposed to make me feel better. But I let on like it does so that I can at least try to look strong. There's really no point to it, or any other weird shit I do.

It's all part of my not really being raised by anybody. I was magically supposed to figure out how to live on my own. My mom mentioned an article she read in the paper about how it's mostly our lives from age 11 to age 20 that shape who we are the most. That rang so true to me, because my parents divorced when I was 10, after which I pretty much had no father figure in my life to do what fathers do, and mom was barely around, between working to support me and dating and gambling all the time. My mom can't understand why I'm addicted to playing games, music, and movies...that's all I really had from 10 on. Anyways...

On a seperate note, my dreams are continuing to come every night and be really good. There's not been a single morning in the last 3 or 4 months that I wake up and I don't want to go back to sleep again because of what dream I was having. If other people weren't waking me up in the morning, I'd wonder if I'd ever get up. This is alarming me as well, to say the least. I think it might be time to get some real help.

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MooglyGuy
12-03-2003, 01:11 AM
> So I don't really know what to think of this.

Here's what to think of it: The test is a fat, steaming pile of bullshit that was barely even fit to be shat by the bull that shat it.

Everyone has periods of depression, everyone has periods of being happy, and all of those questions are pretty much bullshit because everyone has those feelings at some time or another, and more often than not people will have more than one of those things going on at a time. I mean, generally "speaking faster than usual", "thoughts racing through your head", and "not being able to concentrate" go hand-in-hand-in-fucking-hand.

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puduhead
12-03-2003, 02:03 AM
I think bi-polar is something that's to be taken either way, meaningless or of some significance. But I think it's for extreme cases. A lot of people struggle with personal issues including identity problems, self-content, depression, etc. I would be very wary of considering yourself as bi-polar. Remember, people have always had problems in life. So these are just terms or diagnoses that man has made up and they are not without their flaws. Especially in the application to an individual's life.

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Crazy_MYKL
12-03-2003, 02:27 AM
All of these seem to be part of a broader diagnosis:

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wingless
12-03-2003, 02:46 AM
> Just out of curiosity that's been looming inside me for a
> while, I took a bi-polar questionnaire.

damn. three posts in one day. are you TRYING to make me come back?

i had to post here because since i was 13/14 my mom has thought that i was bipolar. she did the same thing with my older sister. niether of us are bipolar. she basically read a lot of articles, and applied selective bipolar traits to my sister and i... traits that many people have, especially if they're under any amount of stress. doctors told her time and time again that i wasnt manic-depressive, but i think she still refuses to believe it- even though all of that bipolar talk stopped 5 years ago. i still see bipolar/manic-depressive books on her nightstand with pieces of paper and sticky notes marking several of the pages.

it's so easy to say that someone is bipolar because it's a chemical imbalance which can't be proven scientifically. you cant run a series of physical tests and say "yep, he's bipolar alright. get that boy some lithium!!" if you're a person who feels emotion, you can take that quiz and answer "yes" to all of the questions. saying that someone is bipolar is often just the easy excuse these days. <img src=smilies/headshake.gif>

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puduhead
12-03-2003, 04:34 AM
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loonyme
12-03-2003, 06:01 AM
> Part of why I hide it from friends and family is because in my family, I'm like the "last hope". I'm supposed to be
superman...I'm supposed to be the perfect kid that will go on to become the emperor of the world. And in reality, I'm the weakest person I know. I can barely even give an unforced look into people's eyes because I feel like such trash. Every time I tell my mom how I feel, she gives this "be grateful for what you have" bit....every fucking time, like it's magically supposed to make me feel better. But I let on like it does so that I can at least try to look strong. There's really no point to it.

yeh being the last hope sucks. its that way with me too. its like every damn decision has to be taken so that you are not leting down any one; yet they are YOUR decisions so that at the end of it you are not only unhappy but also responsible for it.<img src=smilies/banghead.gif><img src=smilies/banghead.gif>

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sephiroth111
12-04-2003, 02:31 AM
when it comes down to it, in the end it is your life, your choices, it is your problems. not your family's. i tuned my mom out after awhile, cause she thought i was a failure... after awhile i can safely say your family should not have a direct effect on it.

i'm not saying to move out, nor can i say i know jack shit about your problems, but you have a brilliant mind that can be used to a better degree if you dont have that family burden "on your saq" ( -as vin would say it)

>And in reality, I'm the weakest person I know.

this is just disillusion, you have a low body image of yourself this forces you to think you are sub-human, think of it as i did once "i'm crap, i cant even protect myself...i look horrible....i'm ugly"
all these thoughts were flying around in my head...after awhile...i started to believe them. then i realised, "what the fuck am i thinking" this started to happen after i realised my true talent. (in this case its computers). if you know your real talent then nothing can stop you.

anyway i'm done preaching, maybe i'm wrong, and if i am, so what.

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Octocrook
12-04-2003, 10:24 AM
> if
> you know your real talent then nothing can stop you.

My "real talent" breaks up into a few things. Bowling for one...I'm good enough to the point where, if I tried enough and kept improving like I have over the past couple years, I could be a 220 average pro before I'm 25 years old. Composing music is another talent I have. I don't TRULY know that, if given decent equipment and time, I could make a good living off of composing music (or I guess they call it producing). 3rd is math. I'm one of the only math students I know that takes 0 notes, barely studies for tests and still gets sufficient grades. I don't like math. I know the slim chances of making a living at music. And I've had it beaten over my head that playing games is not a way to make a living, so while I probably could spend time and effort to become a pro bowler (as I could a music producer), I've had it beaten into my head that I can't do such a thing. To be honest, I don't know really what I'll want to do until I move out of here. That's the hard part though.

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acromion
12-05-2003, 03:23 PM
You're not bi-polar. At least not according to anything you said in that post. The majority of those questions are very general, and basically everyone (except clinically depressed people, who wouldn't suffer from the 'manic' phase, or indeed normal happiness) would answer yes to about as many of the questions as you did.

Another reason why I don't think you're bipolar: Many of the questions to which you answered yes, eg the "felt so good or hyper" one, you qualified with an example of something which would be expected to make anyone feel that way. Anyone with a love for their music would feel elated when writing a good song. And having certain triggers like this for your 'mood swings' isn't indicative of manic-depressives at all. Sounds more like you're a normal person, perhaps with some overactive hormones at times, perhaps not.

Bottom line, manic depressives generally switch between mania and depression fairly randomly, without triggers (from what I've read), and may stay in a state for any length of time, from a few hours to much longer (I've met one elderly patient who has been stuck in the depressed state for many years). Despite being able to answer yes to many questions, it was a crap test designed to make everyone think they're bipolar, and I don't think you are.

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Kuikorosu
12-06-2003, 12:03 AM
> My mom mentioned an article she read in the paper about how
> it's mostly our lives from age 11 to age 20 that shape who
> we are the most.

Geh. I spent the last 10 years in front of this damned PC and video games.

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icenine0
12-06-2003, 02:45 AM
Don't listen to that test. It's just designed to push more mind-altering drugs, like those stupid commercials.

"Prolexamine, the little orange pill. It may change your life!"
"Ask your doctor if Prolexamine is right for you."

Cue girl dancing in field with flowers and hummingbirds.

Then, the savvy consumer...

"DOC! My stomach hurts, my head hurts, I'm depressed, I'm neglected, I'm maladjusted, I'm panic-prone, I'm nervous, I've got high cholesterol! I NEED some Prolexamine!"
"Uhh, well, it's supposed to be prescribed for autism, but I'll prescribe it for shutting-you-the-hell-up."
"Sounds like a deal!"

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Kuikorosu
12-06-2003, 06:40 AM
> Don't listen to that test. It's just designed to push more
> mind-altering drugs, like those stupid commercials.

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Reaper man
12-07-2003, 10:24 PM
> > Don't listen to that test. It's just designed to push
> more
> > mind-altering drugs, like those stupid commercials.

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