Pete081085
03-04-2009, 05:52 PM
Hey all.
As some of you know there is a translation of the game called Front Mission 5 you can check it on frontmission.info I'm personally responsible for translating graphic files like TIM2. My work can be seen in these screenshots:
http://frontmission.info/image/fm5update-4.jpg
http://frontmission.info/image/fm5update-2.jpg
All the files that can be see above are stored as TIM2 format, I already know how to edit those files. To do this first I used Munge Explorer to extract my original Japanese ISO made by MagicISO
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1568/31238600.jpg
and that's what I've got:
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9417/67651673.jpg
In :"Modules folder":
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/387/52783067.jpg
Then I extracted the DVDIMAGE.DAT (3,62 GB) to get over 10000 files. Some of those files are already named TIM2 but there is bunch of files with strange extensions (some are just named as .dat) which I don't know how to open. Some TIM2 files are stored inside these odd formats. To see those files i used MagicISO and packed those files in an ISO containing lets say 500 files and then used TimTool to extract tim's that were changed into .bmp. So when I've found something interesting I just narrowed the search down to 250 an so on until there was only one file with TIM2 I wanted to change. Because there was no working extractor/rebuilder of TIM2 I just had to copy and paste whole value using hex editor and replace the original TIM2 with the changed on - of course I had to be sure that the size of the files is the same. But even when thx to TimTool I've found over 4000 tims there were some parts of the graphic that require translation missing, that's what is missing:
http://aycu24.webshots.com/image/42263/2001643417316675905_rs.jpg
I'm looking for the file that contains the Japanese text on this white belt. I thought that it also should be a tim2 format since as you can see on second screen there is a "Officer's quarters" on top left corner and is also on a white belt very similar to the one J'm looking for...
I started a topic on a different forum. I tried to find the missing graphic using PCSX2 (sectors). Game Sectors (http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3355/sectorsfs4.gif)
The guy who tried to help me wrote something like this:
I'm not sure if this can help at all but it's possible that you could use the console to find where the text is.
From the console I'll assume that each sector is 2064 bytes, and you would find the data at address 1642481*2064 = 3390080784 = 0xCA108710. If you open the ISO in a hex editor you might find the data there. Also I'm sure there's a program out there that could tell you what file is at what sector to help narrow down the search.
The only problem is, that address is probably the graphical data since the japanese would have already been loaded into memory before displaying it.
My guess is you'd have to watch the console before the text appears and maybe if you're lucky it'll all be stored in the same spot for all text and you can easily find it by watching before every text load. (i.e. a sector read at 1400XXX amongst the 1642XXX)
Please note that this is just a guess as I don't know the PCSX2 emulator or what its output means and I don't know how the FM5 file structure is.
If any of this is wrong hopefully someone can correct me but I hope that it'll help you along the right path.
Yet the missing thing is not found in TIM2 format, I couldn't even find Tim were the game's font is stored. But there is a guy called MoxHypKa was able to somehow change the font, you can see it on the youtube (You can see it when you type Front Mission 5 Translation Clip in search engine).
That's obvious that a lot of things is stored in different format for example 3D's textures etc... I tried to extract the files using CRC, scanning with Sonix FileScan v3.0. But in CRC there is no plug-in for Front Mission 5 though the file scanner finds the same stuff as Sonix's tool the extraction option hurts badly since I have to click on every single file to extract (Why there is no option allowing us to mark the files and then extract them all ??!!) Could some one tell me how can I extract those files faster than just clicking on each of them ??
I understand that rest of the graphics can be stored as different formats but how to find what kind of ?? Can I request the plugins for CRC an Genie ?? And I'm asking you guys to help me find the missing stuff.
I decided to load some files from the game if that can help since I'm in a dead point and don't know how to move on... :cry:
Front Mission 5 files (http://www.yousendit.com/download/U0d3ZHl2YWIzS3F4dnc9PQ)
Please if you need more files I can upload them here or send them to your PM. Please guys help me to find those graphic formats please...
As some of you know there is a translation of the game called Front Mission 5 you can check it on frontmission.info I'm personally responsible for translating graphic files like TIM2. My work can be seen in these screenshots:
http://frontmission.info/image/fm5update-4.jpg
http://frontmission.info/image/fm5update-2.jpg
All the files that can be see above are stored as TIM2 format, I already know how to edit those files. To do this first I used Munge Explorer to extract my original Japanese ISO made by MagicISO
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1568/31238600.jpg
and that's what I've got:
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9417/67651673.jpg
In :"Modules folder":
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/387/52783067.jpg
Then I extracted the DVDIMAGE.DAT (3,62 GB) to get over 10000 files. Some of those files are already named TIM2 but there is bunch of files with strange extensions (some are just named as .dat) which I don't know how to open. Some TIM2 files are stored inside these odd formats. To see those files i used MagicISO and packed those files in an ISO containing lets say 500 files and then used TimTool to extract tim's that were changed into .bmp. So when I've found something interesting I just narrowed the search down to 250 an so on until there was only one file with TIM2 I wanted to change. Because there was no working extractor/rebuilder of TIM2 I just had to copy and paste whole value using hex editor and replace the original TIM2 with the changed on - of course I had to be sure that the size of the files is the same. But even when thx to TimTool I've found over 4000 tims there were some parts of the graphic that require translation missing, that's what is missing:
http://aycu24.webshots.com/image/42263/2001643417316675905_rs.jpg
I'm looking for the file that contains the Japanese text on this white belt. I thought that it also should be a tim2 format since as you can see on second screen there is a "Officer's quarters" on top left corner and is also on a white belt very similar to the one J'm looking for...
I started a topic on a different forum. I tried to find the missing graphic using PCSX2 (sectors). Game Sectors (http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3355/sectorsfs4.gif)
The guy who tried to help me wrote something like this:
I'm not sure if this can help at all but it's possible that you could use the console to find where the text is.
From the console I'll assume that each sector is 2064 bytes, and you would find the data at address 1642481*2064 = 3390080784 = 0xCA108710. If you open the ISO in a hex editor you might find the data there. Also I'm sure there's a program out there that could tell you what file is at what sector to help narrow down the search.
The only problem is, that address is probably the graphical data since the japanese would have already been loaded into memory before displaying it.
My guess is you'd have to watch the console before the text appears and maybe if you're lucky it'll all be stored in the same spot for all text and you can easily find it by watching before every text load. (i.e. a sector read at 1400XXX amongst the 1642XXX)
Please note that this is just a guess as I don't know the PCSX2 emulator or what its output means and I don't know how the FM5 file structure is.
If any of this is wrong hopefully someone can correct me but I hope that it'll help you along the right path.
Yet the missing thing is not found in TIM2 format, I couldn't even find Tim were the game's font is stored. But there is a guy called MoxHypKa was able to somehow change the font, you can see it on the youtube (You can see it when you type Front Mission 5 Translation Clip in search engine).
That's obvious that a lot of things is stored in different format for example 3D's textures etc... I tried to extract the files using CRC, scanning with Sonix FileScan v3.0. But in CRC there is no plug-in for Front Mission 5 though the file scanner finds the same stuff as Sonix's tool the extraction option hurts badly since I have to click on every single file to extract (Why there is no option allowing us to mark the files and then extract them all ??!!) Could some one tell me how can I extract those files faster than just clicking on each of them ??
I understand that rest of the graphics can be stored as different formats but how to find what kind of ?? Can I request the plugins for CRC an Genie ?? And I'm asking you guys to help me find the missing stuff.
I decided to load some files from the game if that can help since I'm in a dead point and don't know how to move on... :cry:
Front Mission 5 files (http://www.yousendit.com/download/U0d3ZHl2YWIzS3F4dnc9PQ)
Please if you need more files I can upload them here or send them to your PM. Please guys help me to find those graphic formats please...